Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

[JawadKKhan]

Yep, even YJ-12 wiki page had that exact information for over a year :

 

[iLION12345_1]

That's the advertised range.

I wouldn't think it would be that easy. The system's weight and other factors maybe there also.

Iirc it has already been seen mounted in 4x4 configuration before on other ships (I may be wrong so feel free to correct), which wouldn’t indicate weight isn’t an issue.

 

[monitor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1464835208822366208

Baby coming Home.

 

[nomi007]

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

But wasn't there an option for 2 more Type054's ?

HQ-16A is too big to be quad packed, it’s an old missile. China is working on its replacement, HQ-16C.

Replacing the VLS system entirely (which will require design and testing work as the VLS system isn’t meant for These frigates) and then buying new missiles for it will be a very costly endeavor, which imo will kind of ruin the point of these ships; they’re meant to be lower cost acquisitions when compared to the Babur and Jinnah class.
The thinking here is, if China does such a thing first, then we can just ask them to put the system in our ships too, instead of asking them to do it for our ships first, in which were bearing extra cost, and that’s before considering wether this is even possible with the 054A design, in which case I’m not the best judge because I don’t know dimensions and such for most of these systems, someone else can answer that better.

No body is talking about HQ-9. I am talking about quad pack Vls for Hq-16 missiles or any other SAM.


The HT-1E was loaded with missiles including the CM-103 long-range supersonic cruise missile, HHQ-9E long-range air defense missile, CM-802B subsonic missile, and FM-3000N air defense missile at the CASIC exhibition hall at the air show. While bigger missiles such as the CM-103 and HHQ-9E require their own vertical launch cell, the same cell may hold up to four smaller missiles such as the FM-3000N.

China Unveils a New Ship-based Vertical Launch System (VLS) with a Quad-pack Cell - Naval Post- Naval News and Information

China unveiled its first type of made-for-export ship-borne vertical launch system at the ongoing Airshow China 2021. The VLS' quad-pack launch cells can load up to four missiles instead of just one, which is one of its most important features.

navalpost.com

MANILA PHILIPPINES The lead ship of the Tughril class of guided missile & air defence frigates of the #Pakistan Navy , PNS Tughril arrived in the #Philippines on a two-day port of call and goodwill visit.
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The lead ship of the Tughril class of guided missile and air defence frigates of the Pakistan Navy

, PNS Tughril arrived in the Philippines

on a two-day port of call and goodwill visit.


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Great induction of first vls ship in PN

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Yep, even YJ-12 wiki page had that exact information for over a year :

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1464841368770170883

https://twitter.com/x/status/1464841431374344193

 

[Windjammer]

2x2 CM-302/YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile launchers seen on PNS Tughril during naval exercises with the Philippines Navy in the South China Sea.

 

[JamD]

@JamD have a look at this.
CM 401 is not coming with type 054
Its yj 12 supersonic cruise missile.

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These missiles are monsters. I would suspect that this missile is a large part of the reason for getting these ships. The induction of these missiles complicates IN wartime operations.

 

[Bilal.]

These missiles are monsters. I would suspect that this missile is a large part of the reason for getting these ships. The induction of these missiles complicates IN wartime operations.

I wonder will ours be MTCR compliant version or…

 

[mudas777]

I wonder will ours be MTCR compliant version or…

We are always MTCR compliant like the rest of the world but there is always some room for the error and missile ends up further then the paper design. In the heat of the war who is going to measure the distances, a sunken ship or some Indian measuring tape designed 5000 years ago ?

 

[SQ8]

I wonder will ours be MTCR compliant version or…

If fitted from the start as a Chinese system it has to be MTCR compliant. If manufactured as a sub-variant under license no such restrictions exist.

 

[JamD]

I wonder will ours be MTCR compliant version or…

If fitted from the start as a Chinese system it has to be MTCR compliant. If manufactured as a sub-variant under license no such restrictions exist.

Yeah. Just look at Harbah. I am pretty sure we will see the same with YJ-12 (or HD-1A) being inducted as SMASH, CM401 being inducted as P282.

 

[Shotgunner51]

I wonder will ours be MTCR compliant version or…

I guess upon delivery the fuel tank size is for 299.9 km, but after delivery ...

 

[khanasifm]

Analysis of Anti-ship missiles and Ship-borne air defense system unveiled at Chinese military parade 2019

A variety of shore-to-ship missiles, ship-to-ship missiles, "YJ-12" and "YJ-18/18A" as well as the latest ship-borne air defence weapons "HHQ-9A" were shown at China military parade.

www.navyrecognition.com

The subs will
Come with yj-18 ??

 

[khanasifm]

What the truth who know

It does appear the YJ-12 canisters can stack using these mounts, and the 167 Shenzhen can mount 16 of them. That is according to visitors who asked the sailors themselves, and the official model for the refit ship.

PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

Thanks for Hongjian at the CDF for finding this. https://lt.cjdby.net/thread-2505509-1-1.html It does appear the YJ-12 canisters can stack using these mounts, and the 167 Shenzhen can mount 16 of them. That is according to visitors who asked the sailors themselves, and the official model for...

www.sinodefenceforum.com

China Shows Off

The Pakistan Air Force Chengdu JF-17 always departed from the...

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[khanasifm]

Chinese Navy Type 051B destroyer upgraded with 16 container launchers for YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship missile

Chinese navy has upgraded its Type 051B Luhai-class destroyer, Shenzhen, that is now equipped with 16 container launchers able to fire YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship missile.

www.navyrecognition.com