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Pakistan Navy to Purchase Frigates from China

One comment it does not make difference if you have 70km Sam or 12 km range sam as most of air lunches anti ship missiles out ranges the sams so an effective sam is and should be the requirement, very reason usn using ram and other which are much shorter range then all Russian anti ship missiles or matter of fact other anti ship missiles, along with phalanx

Lastly able to handle saturated attack’s such as 2-4 anti ship missiles at the same time

I dont agree. The range of. The SAMs is very important. The SAM is more to shoot down the missile than the aircraft carrying it. The USN uses multi tier approach for air defense, starting with SM-2/6 which can engage targets from hundreds of km away. At medium ranges ESSM, can engage targets at 50km away. And RAM/RAM2 from 12-22km away respectively. And inside of 5km you have the phalanx ciws. The long range weapon gives you more opportunity to defeat the incoming missile. So it absolutely matters on the range of your sams.
 
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From Defence and Security 2017 @Gryphon

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based of the type 057 thats was modelled in pakistan last year
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Col. Shahzad Iqbal of PNS Saif has confirmed that the Pakistani Navy will purchase the Type 054A FFG during a recent PN visit to Shanghai.

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Looks like pn want to stick to something that is already proven and has service history ?? Rather than trying out totally new design ?? If this new is true ??

Unless he is calling new design the same name or f22p upgrade

Per Janes report 4 new frigates were part of negotiations with build split among China and pak
 
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Looks like pn want to stick to something that is already proven and has service history ?? Rather than trying out totally new design ?? If this new is true ??

Unless he is calling new design the same name or f22p upgrade

Per Janes report 4 new frigates were part of negotiations with build split among China and pak
The CSOC 4,000-ton frigate (for export) is based on the Type 054A. There are some differences, e.g. there's a model without a target-illuminator and longer VLS, but at their core, same ship as the Type 054A.

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The CSOC 4,000-ton frigate (for export) is based on the Type 054A. There are some differences, e.g. there's a model without a target-illuminator and longer VLS, but at their core, same ship as the Type 054A.

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But Its not called 054a ?? Is it ?? Anyway till Janes or someone reports formally it’s all guessing or this interviews is formally published


Latest model 054 ?? A ? B has 11 barrel 30mm close in weapon system type 1130 plus variable depth towed sonar and some other improvements as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...1-barrel-hypersonic-missile-ki-1679292034/amp
 
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But Its not called 054a ?? Is it ?? Anyway till Janes or someone reports formally it’s all guessing or this interviews is formally published


Latest model 054 ?? A ? B has 11 barrel 30mm close in weapon system type 1130 plus variable depth towed sonar and some other improvements as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...1-barrel-hypersonic-missile-ki-1679292034/amp
Realistically, when the official name is "CSOC 4,000 ton frigate" can we really expect a PN Capt to say that instead of the simpler "054A?" We can't even get a proper description of the PN's new submarines.
 
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But Its not called 054a ?? Is it ?? Anyway till Janes or someone reports formally it’s all guessing or this interviews is formally published


Latest model 054 ?? A ? B has 11 barrel 30mm close in weapon system type 1130 plus variable depth towed sonar and some other improvements as well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...1-barrel-hypersonic-missile-ki-1679292034/amp

http://www.janes.com/article/69073/china-s-csoc-showcases-a-new-4-000-tonne-frigate

The model at IDEAS didn't have FCR for SARH missiles (LY-80N) though one could be fitted with the actual ship. 70 km range LY-80N shouldn't be far off.
 
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Assuming that each ship costs 350 million USD, that is 1.4 bn USD for four. The LR-SAM capability it could bring will be worth every penny spent.

Fleet level AD for F-22P, Alamgir, remaining Type 21 and possibly Ada corvettes as well.
If they can at least get the 280 km APAR and 500 km OTOH, the Navy would have (1) the ability to guide the CM-302 or CX-1 AShM and (2) provide stand-off range surveillance in lieu of and/or complementing AEW&C. Of course, with the sensor suite in place they can fit LR-SAM later.
 
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