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Pakistan Navy P-3C Orion Thread

After the Lose of Orion how will PN Manage its aerial survaillance

as PN manage in 90s simple answer is if you are brave and you do not feel scared from enemy no problem. look at N.Korea how many P-3C they have?

your bravery is a SONAR? Or a platform to undertake ASW ops from?:unsure:
 
In my point of view Pakistan has to make credible relations with Russian federation while stepping up toward Russian military exports.


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I read all thread but i have a question that two P3 Orion destroyed by an attacked ...are these birds were upgrade version who become under attacked ....how many P3 orion will deliver by US near future and how many we have now??????
 
LOL! Yes and were surprised you have internet service in your mudhut. Jezz its comments such as this that shows how ignorant you are of the culture in the United States.


:lol: oh yeah the american culture , right , just like : " the ever-increasing bastards coming in the maury show and fighting their sex-wars there on american tv " , " boy his own mother- in-law :kiss3: then appearing on your american national tv , live & direct in your america's most favourite tv show : the famous law springer show " :rofl: , " mass genocide of the original native americans i.e. red indians " :angry:... this scchhitt makes you americans proud ?? :azn: then what the phuckkk ... :P

america ; what a schhitt hole ... :enjoy:
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I read all thread but i have a question that two P3 Orion destroyed by an attacked ...are these birds were upgrade version who become under attacked ....how many P3 orion will deliver by US near future and how many we have now??????

It has been heard that the two destroyed P-3C were infact upgraded ones i belive 4 are to given to us in the future ... actual amount of P-3's in PN inventory iam not sure of again i could be wrong about the numbers here perhaps Fatman can shine some light.
 
It has been heard that the two destroyed P-3C were infact upgraded ones i belive 4 are to given to us in the future ... actual amount of P-3's in PN inventory iam not sure of again i could be wrong about the numbers here perhaps Fatman can shine some light.

It was something 10 minus 3 i guess. One was in reserve or out of order for some reason.And now two more gone.
 
MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n;1792716 said:
:lol: oh yeah the american culture , right , just like : " the ever-increasing bastards coming in the maury show and fighting their sex-wars there on american tv " , " boy his own mother- in-law :kiss3: then appearing on your american national tv , live & direct in your america's most favourite tv show : the famous law springer show " :rofl: , " mass genocide of the original native americans i.e. red indians " :angry:... this scchhitt makes you americans proud ?? :azn: then what the phuckkk ... :P

america ; what a schhitt hole ... :enjoy:pakistan:
LOL! once again you prove my point with your comment about a cancelled tv show that was little watched and proven to have been staged and made up. If my friend you base your opinions on a culture by watch you learn from TV that speaks pretty poor of the state of the world today. Does some reaserch my friend before you post such nonsense.
 
THe lost aircraft can and will be replaced from US sources. Probably at little cost to PN. DOn't see what the brouhaha is all about, except for the tremendous breach of security.
 
THe lost aircraft can and will be replaced from US sources. Probably at little cost to PN. DOn't see what the brouhaha is all about, except for the tremendous breach of security.

Penguin is their any conformed source of the aircrafts being replaced?
 
Penguin is their any conformed source of the aircrafts being replaced?

Reportedly, there will be a request to that extent (24/5/2011, The News, Pakistan)
Pakistan to ask US for two more Orion planes

Personally, I think it is quite likely such a request would be fullfilled via FMS/FMF, as part of military aid (i.e. little cost).

Pakistan to ask US for two more Orion planes

Muhammad Saleh Zaafir

Tuesday, May 24, 2011

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will ask the United States to supply it two additional PC-3 Orion planes for its Navy to make up the deficiency of the loss of two planes which were destroyed by the terrorists on Sunday evening at Mehran Air Base Karachi in an act of terrorism.

Pakistan being an ally of the US in the so-called war on terrorism reserves the right for making such demand. The Defence Committee of the Cabinet (DCC) that will discuss various aspects of the matter in its meeting on Wednesday could take a position about the demand.

Pakistan’s plea has strong backing in view of the act of terrorism that caused the destruction of the two planes. Pakistan Naval Aviation is an important arm of the Pakistan Navy and assists in the surface and submarine flights to guarantee the safety of Pakistan sea borders. The loss of the planes could weaken the capacity of the Navy in actions against the terror activities across the sea. The US is supposed to provide two such planes by the end of the year according to earlier agreed schedule.

Well placed sources told The News here Monday evening that Prime Minister Gilani has asked Defence Secretary Lt Gen (r) Syed Athar Ali to proceed to Karachi to make an assessment on ground at the Mehran Base so that he should put up detailed preliminary report about the gory incident at the DCC. General Athar who is uncle in relationship of late Lieutenant Yasser Abbas who laid down his life in fighting with the terrorists at Mehran Base, has gone to Lahore to receive the dead-body of the martyred and he will be proceeding to Karachi from Lahore after attending his Namaz-e-Janaza.

The deceased was six feet and two inches tall young man whose father Dr Jaffar Abbas belonged to Medical Corps of the Army and retired as colonel. Chief of Naval Staff (CNS) Admiral Noman Bashir who spent his whole night at the Naval Headquarters here after the initiation of the act of terror on Sunday night at Mehran Base, got in touch with the local command in Karachi and kept on guiding it regularly. He left for Karachi in the following morning from the Naval Headquarters.

The headquarters remained on its toes the whole night. The CNS will submit detailed technical report about the whole terrible episode in the DCC, the sources said. The sources pointed out that Pakistan Navy’s aviation force currently consists of three Westland Lynx - anti-ship/anti-submarine/transport helicopters, six Westland Sea King Mk45 - Anti Submarine/ Anti Surface Warfare helicopters (Based at Karachi), eight Aerospatiale SA-319B Alouette III - transport/anti-ship helicopters, seven Lockheed P-3C Orion - maritime surveillance/ anti-submarine warfare aircraft/airborne early warning. Future supply of seven more under an agreement with Lockheed Martin signed in 2006; two upgraded P-3C Orion delivered on 7th Jan 2010 while one was delivered in Nov 2009. Another two advanced P-3C Orion aircraft to be delivered soon (Two of the upgraded version have been destroyed overnight terrorism action), seven Fokker F27-200 Friendship - maritime surveillance aircraft, four Hawker 850 - VIP transport aircraft, two Breguet Atlantique, one maritime surveillance/anti-submarine warfare aircraft, thirty two Dassault Mirage V - anti-ship attack aircraft flown by PAF which are based at PAF base Masroor in Karachi, (operated by the PAF), Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, twelve Harbin Z-9EC anti-submarine warfare helicopters equipped with a surface-search radar, low frequency dipping sonar, radar warning receiver, Doppler navigation system and armed with torpedoes.
 
The headquarters remained on its toes the whole night. The CNS will submit detailed technical report about the whole terrible episode in the DCC, the sources said. The sources pointed out that Pakistan Navy’s aviation force currently consists of three Westland Lynx - anti-ship/anti-submarine/transport helicopters, six Westland Sea King Mk45 - Anti Submarine/ Anti Surface Warfare helicopters (Based at Karachi), eight Aerospatiale SA-319B Alouette III - transport/anti-ship helicopters, seven Lockheed P-3C Orion - maritime surveillance/ anti-submarine warfare aircraft/airborne early warning. Future supply of seven more under an agreement with Lockheed Martin signed in 2006; two upgraded P-3C Orion delivered on 7th Jan 2010 while one was delivered in Nov 2009. Another two advanced P-3C Orion aircraft to be delivered soon (Two of the upgraded version have been destroyed overnight terrorism action), seven Fokker F27-200 Friendship - maritime surveillance aircraft, four Hawker 850 - VIP transport aircraft, two Breguet Atlantique, one maritime surveillance/anti-submarine warfare aircraft, thirty two Dassault Mirage V - anti-ship attack aircraft flown by PAF which are based at PAF base Masroor in Karachi, (operated by the PAF), Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, twelve Harbin Z-9EC anti-submarine warfare helicopters equipped with a surface-search radar, low frequency dipping sonar, radar warning receiver, Doppler navigation system and armed with torpedoes

this Nation article is full of dis-information.

three Westland Lynx - anti-ship/anti-submarine/transport helicopters = WITHDRAWN AND RETIRED.
six Westland Sea King Mk45 - Anti Submarine/ Anti Surface Warfare helicopters (Based at Karachi = OK
eight Aerospatiale SA-319B Alouette III - transport/anti-ship helicopters = THESE ARE SAR HELOS
seven Lockheed P-3C Orion - maritime surveillance/ anti-submarine warfare aircraft/airborne early warning. Future supply of seven more under an agreement with Lockheed Martin signed in 2006; two upgraded P-3C Orion delivered on 7th Jan 2010 while one was delivered in Nov 2009. Another two advanced P-3C Orion aircraft to be delivered soon (Two of the upgraded version have been destroyed overnight terrorism action) = 3 WERE DELIVERED IN 2005 (1 LOST LEAVING 2). 3 P3C FURTHER DELIVERED (2 LOST LEAVING 1). 3 TO BE DELIVERED BY END OF 2011.
seven Fokker F27-200 Friendship - maritime surveillance aircraft = 5 MSA AND 1 TROOP TRANSPORT.
four Hawker 850 - VIP transport aircraft = 1 ONLY (VIP CUM MSA)
two Breguet Atlantique, one maritime surveillance/anti-submarine warfare aircraft = 1 IS ACTIVE, 2 ARE STORED.
thirty two Dassault Mirage V - anti-ship attack aircraft flown by PAF which are based at PAF base Masroor in Karachi, (operated by the PAF = ONLY 12 MIRAGES ARE IN THE DEDICATED ANTI-SHIP ROLE.
twelve Harbin Z-9EC anti-submarine warfare helicopters equipped with a surface-search radar, low frequency dipping sonar, radar warning receiver, Doppler navigation system and armed with torpedoes = 6 Z9EC ARE IN SERVICE.
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles = ???
 
The main Pakistan Naval Aviation base is located at Pakistan Navy Ship (PNS) Mehran, located on the western side of the runway. It operates a fleet of Alouette IIIs, Sea Kings, Atlantics, F-27 Friendships and P-3C Orions. The US Government recently agreed to donate seven P-3Cs to the Pakistan Navy through its Foreign Military Sales process, although they will be refurbished in Pakistan. To date two aircraft are believed to have been delivered, joining the two P-3Cs that were returned to service in September 2006 after years of being in store due to a lack of spares. China has sold six Harbin Z-9EC anti-submarine helicopters to the Pakistan Navy for use on their Type 21 destroyers, with the first of these delivered on 23rd September, 2009.

The Atlantics and the Sea King Mk. 46s can be equipped with the AM-39 Exocet for the anti-shipping role. The Lynx HAS.3s acquired from the Royal Navy in 1994 have recently been withdrawn from service, due to various reasons, so it is believed that the naval air arm has lost its capability to use Sea Skua and Mk 46 Lightweight Torpedoes in the anti-submarine role from helicopter platforms.

Also based at PNS Mehran, although not a component part of the PNA, are three BN-2 Defenders flown by the Maritime Surveillance Flight’s 93 Sqn. The Flight is mainly tasked for patrolling Pakistan’s Economic Exclusion Zone and reports to the Director General of the Maritime Security Agency
 
The sources pointed out that Pakistan Navy's aviation force currently consists of seven Lockheed P-3C Orion - maritime surveillance/ anti-submarine warfare aircraft/airborne early warning.

7 is the number as mentioned.

I just hope they build an equal number of hangers for these assets and the new ones coming.Rather keeping two out in the middle and one parked in the hanger for the time being.
 

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