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[CT-9914 "Snoop"]

Opinion: PN should equip it's frigates/corvettes with non-Chinese subsystems e.g. using a radar and associated equipment on let's the Zulfiqar-class, possibly Thales or Leonardo integrated with Turkish/European/South African weapon systems, because a Buk is still a Buk and a Crotale copy is still a Crotale copy no matter how much it's "improved". Also possibly VLS integration in the Zulfiqar-class?

 

[Tamiyah]

Opinion: PN should equip it's frigates/corvettes with non-Chinese subsystems e.g. using a radar and associated equipment on let's the Zulfiqar-class, possibly Thales or Leonardo integrated with Turkish/European/South African weapon systems, because a Buk is still a Buk and a Crotale copy is still a Crotale copy no matter how much it's "improved". Also possibly VLS integration in the Zulfiqar-class?

Well, Pakistan have been working on this. The Damen Corvettes will use our own missiles probably with some Chinese equipment. On our Turkeys ADA frigates we will be using all turkish equipment with some Chinese as we lack industry in this field. We should not think of upgrading the Zulfiqar Class, Let it be there where it should be.
We have many more platforms coming Like ADA frigate , Type054A , Damen Corvette, Subs.
We do have space in our Zulfiqar class or we can make some but the decision depends on our Navy. Wether they want it or not. We should not buy every technology in this field but stick with one and be professional in it. One prominent example is Saudi Arabia. As a Saudi citizen, I know that they have every modern technology but they lack professionalism which makes them fall prey to every professional army.

 

[mdmm]

Kindly answer my simple question,as you are army Leasders..
Is Pakistan capable to defend and survive ,surely, if Idian attack on south end of Pakistan sea,Karachi, Gawader, CPEC ,Pesny etc ??
Today In India has "Aircraft Carriers"" and a new working Naval station in Oman ,to directly hit,trap, Pakistani sea,Gawader,CPEC,Karachi etc. ???

 

[Nasr]

Kindly answer my simple question,as you are army Leasders..
Is Pakistan capable to defend and survive ,surely, if Idian attack on south end of Pakistan sea,Karachi, Gawader, CPEC ,Pesny etc ??
Today In India has "Aircraft Carriers"" and a new working Naval station in Oman ,to directly hit,trap, Pakistani sea,Gawader,CPEC,Karachi etc. ???

India's ability to block Pakistan's maritime access would be ineffective for several reasons listed below:

1. Trishul (FFG) in Dec 2005 damaged after collision with commercial vessel. 0 casualties
2. Prahar (OPV) in Apr 2006 sunk after colliding with merchant vessel. 0 casualties
3. Dunagiri (FFG) in Sept 2006 heavy damage colliding with merch vessel. 0 casualties
4. Sindughosh (SSN) in Jan 2008 collided with foreign merchant vessel. 0 casualties
5. Jalashwa (LPD) in Feb 2008 suffered leakage hydrogen sulfide. 5 crew killed
6. Kuthar (OPV) & Ranvir (DDG) Aug 2009 collided extensive damage. 0 casualties
7. Mumbai (DDG) 2010 CWIS malfunction. 3 crew killed instantly
8. Vindhiyagiri (FFG) Jan 2011, capsized due to collision with merch vessel. 0 casualties
9. Sindhurakshak (SSN) Aug 2013, explosion in weap compartment. 18 sailors/officerskilled
10. Konkan (MSW) Dec 2013, fire engulfed interior of ship. 0 casualties
11. Talwar (DDG) Dec 2013, collided and sank fish-twarler. Captain stripped of command
12. Tarkash (DDG) Dec 2013, major hull damage in collision with jetty. 0 casualties
13. Betwa (FFG) Jan 2014, ran aground, sonar sys cracked. 0 casualties
14. Vipul (OPV) Jan 2014, hole found in pillar compartment. 0 casualties
15. Airavat (AWV) Feb 2014, ran aground, prop damaged. Captain suspended of command
16. Sindhuratna (SSN) Feb 2014, fire on board. 2 navy officers killed & CNS resigned
17. Kolkata (DDG) Mar 2014, gas leak on board. commander killed
18. Ganga (FFG) May 2014, explosion on board, minimal damage. 0 casualties
19. Astravahini (TRV) Nov 2014, sank whilst on mission. 4 sailors killed
20. Do-228 (MPA) Mar 2015, crashed in water while on mission. 2 pilots 1 crew killed
21. Kolkata (DDG) Nov 2015, conducted missile test in open air-traffic. 0 casualties
22. Viraat (CVN) Mar 2016, fire broke out onboard. 1 crew member killed
23. Nireekshak (DRV) Apr 2016, explosion of oxygen bottle. 0 casualties
24. Vikramaditya (CVN) Jun 2016, toxic gas leak on boark. 2 killed
25. Dega (NAS) Aug 2016, fire broke-out due to MiG-29K accidentally jettisoned drop tank.
26. Kuthar (OPV) Oct 2016, officer shot by own pistol in accident own cause. 1 killed
27. Nashak (MB), Nov 2016, damage due to engine failure, susequent collision with jetty.
28. Betwa (FFG), Dec 2016, tipped over/crashed on side, heavy damage. 2 sailors killed
29. Pralay (OPV), Jan 2017, fire broke out in gyro compartment. 0 casualties
30. Kamorta (Stealth Corvette), Feb 2017, fire broke out onboard. 0 casualties
31. Kadmatt (ASW Corvette), Oct 2017, collided with Russia ship. 0 casualties
32. Shivalik (Stealth Frigate), fire broke out in ship compartment. 0 casualties
33. Pralay (OPV), another fire broke out in gyro compartment. 0 casualties
34. Vikramaditya (CVN), fire broke out in engine room. 1 naval officer killed

With such a dismal record, Indian Navy has more on it's own plate to deal with than try and mount a naval blockade on Pakistan.

 

[mdmm]

India's ability to block Pakistan's maritime access would be ineffective for several reasons listed below:
With such a dismal record, Indian Navy has more on it's own plate to deal with than try and mount a naval blockade on Pakistan.

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Thank you very much Mr. Nasr -
for a comprehensive answer.Being a Pakistani origin,we are all concerned about future of Pakistan.We are sending money to Pakistan,regularly to keep it strong.
Seem like Indian Navy,air force is technically incapable to lear and train ,coward and practically idiots.

 

[Nasr]

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Thank you very much Mr. Nasr -
for a comprehensive answer.Being a Pakistani origin,we are all concerned about future of Pakistan.We are sending money to Pakistan,regularly to keep it strong.
Seem like Indian Navy,air force is technically incapable to lear and train ,coward and practically idiots.

The enemy's failures are a constant alarming reminder to Pakistan, that if we do not get our act together, then we will face failure on every turn.

Our focus should be restructuring the education system to provide quality, affordable education which would produce the kind of cadre of skilled Pakistanis, that would propel Pakistan to the stratosphere. Education system needs to be standardized on a national level. To ensure teachers of a high grade quality. That the cirriculum is arranged in a manner gives our young the knowledge which would shape their future.

Our focus must be to destroy corruption at it's root, in every walk of Pakistani life. Whether it be Justice Courts, Civil Service, Airlines, Police (all provinces), PSM, WAPDA, KESC, SUPARCO, Universities, Banking, Transit System.

Pakistan HAS to recognize that without conscious accountability and rule of law (implemented with integrity), we cannot and will not progress as a nation, at all.

Make the rest of Pakistan, as organized, disciplined and ambitious as Pakistan Military. When we accomplish this ..... watch how the enemy starts to $h!t it's pants ... all 1.3 billion of them.

 

[ghazi52]

Pakistan Navy Ship ALAMGIR with embarked Alouette helicopter, visited Port Salalah, Oman as part of Overseas Deployment for Regional Maritime Security Patrols (RMSP); aimed to ensure safety and security of international shipping along critical choke points. PNS ALAMGIR is fitted with state of the art weapons and sensors; capable of undertaking wide range of maritime operations in a multi-threat environment.
Upon arrival at Salalah, the ship was given a warm welcome. DA (P) Muscat was also present at the occasion. During the stay at the port, Commanding Officer PNS ALAMGIR called on Southern Naval Area Commander and Deputy Commander 11 Infantry Brigade of Royal Army of Oman and conveyed sincere regards from Admiral Zafar Mahmood Abbasi, Chief of the Naval Staff to the Royal Navy of Oman and highlighted that the visit of PNS ALAMGIR is a manifestation of the multifaceted long term collaboration that exists between the two navies.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2430898263858799

 

[xbat]

is PNS Alamgir a grant or A purchase? if it is only a grant from US , they may not be give green light to upgrade that ship. if you paid it is different.

 

[AMG_12]

is PNS Alamgir a grant or A purchase? if it is only a grant from US , they may not be give green light to upgrade that ship. if you paid it is different.

It was a grant and recently, PN upgraded it at KSEW with Harpoon Launchers.

 

[TOPGUN]

is PNS Alamgir a grant or A purchase? if it is only a grant from US , they may not be give green light to upgrade that ship. if you paid it is different.

I think its a grant however, PN did pay for refitting the ship and some upgrades but PN needs to add some more punch to this ship I don't know why they wont do it.

 

[xbat]

i asked because they may not want more powerful ship, generally US does not allow to upgrade for handouts. anyway when they want to sell some Harpoon why not?

 

[TOPGUN]

i asked because they may not want more powerful ship, generally US does not allow to upgrade for handouts. anyway when they want to sell some Harpoon why not?

We already have harpoons on the ship and in stock.

 

[Path-Finder]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1173665889847250946

 

[Inception-06]

Oh! i saw mrtp 33 platform at 3:33 , yes too much 3 .. did you guys put SSM missile on it yet?

Still not equipped with Harpoons, Turkey failed to deliver, ask some Turkish members here @xbat

 

[mudas777]

India's ability to block Pakistan's maritime access would be ineffective for several reasons listed below:



With such a dismal record, Indian Navy has more on it's own plate to deal with than try and mount a naval blockade on Pakistan.

Never underestimate your enemy in fact over estimate them so you won't get a nasty shock. Be professional, know your enemy strengths and weaknesses and be prepared. Few examples of bad management and incidents and then writing the whole navy off will be a grave mistake. If they are incapable of any thing then we might as retire whole PN and send them home and save money.