Pakistan Navy interested in type 056

[Rafi]

PN has taken interest in the type 056, especially the ASW version, at this stage it is a study analysis of the platform capabilities and other aspects.

If this interest is changed into a firm order, upto 8 vessels could be purchased. Again this is subject to finance and some other considerations.

 

[maverick1977]

where did u get this info from ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette

should be going for destroyers

 

[Zarvan]

PN has taken interest in the type 056, especially the ASW version, at this stage it is a study analysis of the platform capabilities and other aspects.

If this interest is changed into a firm order, upto 8 vessels could be purchased. Again this is subject to finance and some other considerations.

Although they are Corvettes but Pakistan could use them as OPV. Just like our Yarmook. I am taking a guess and I seriously believe Type 54 A order will also increase could go up to 8 Ships

where did u get this info from ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_056_corvette

should be going for destroyers

Destroyers and big Frigates with VLS for Land Attack Cruise Missiles are must for offensive capability

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

IMO ... if accurate ... the PN should probably either stick with using the Damen OPV 1900 (with ASW modules) or commission NRDI to design a multi-mission corvette in-house. If the latter, leverage Damen's philosophy of using commercial standards for build quality, but load with AShW, ASW and AAW (via a VLS module).

 

[Zarvan]

IMO ... if accurate ... the PN should probably either stick with using the Damen OPV 1900 (with ASW modules) or commission NRDI to design a multi-mission corvette in-house. If the latter, leverage Damen's philosophy of using commercial standards for build quality, but load with AShW, ASW and AAW (via a VLS module).

Damen SIGMA Corvette also fall in same category at least when it comes to firepower although they are more expensive

 

[I S I]

Looks like a pretty aged design, considering Bangla has it.

 

[ziaulislam]

IMO ... if accurate ... the PN should probably either stick with using the Damen OPV 1900 (with ASW modules) or commission NRDI to design a multi-mission corvette in-house. If the latter, leverage Damen's philosophy of using commercial standards for build quality, but load with AShW, ASW and AAW (via a VLS module).

You need count in two factors
1.kick back/comissions
2. Chinese cheap financing

 

[LKJ86]

China has built over 70 Type 056/A already since 2011, and the number continues to increase...

 

[Imran Khan]

koi bari cheez na lena 1500 ton ki boat lena ghareebo . i think we should move to bigger ships man not these fishing boats

 

[waz]

Expand the Damens (ASW capable fit), I'm not sure what the 056 will add.
I'd beef up offensive capability i.e. more frigates.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

You need count in two factors
1.kick back/comissions
2. Chinese cheap financing

I can get (1), but (2) would be weird as that'd still mean spending X per year anyways.

I think it'd be better to get NRDI to use what's learning from the MILGEM to design a smaller corvette. NRDI could even get the Dutch, Turks, Poles, etc to help. With the right team, we can get a 1,500-ton ship with AShW, ASW as well as AAW via an 8-cell VLS. Build some commonality with the MILGEM-J.

 

[Zarvan]

You need count in two factors
1.kick back/comissions
2. Chinese cheap financing

You can have more kickbacks from Europe than China

 

[Dil Pakistan]

I can get (1), but (2) would be weird as that'd still mean spending X per year anyways.

I think it'd be better to get NRDI to use what's learning from the MILGEM to design a smaller corvette. NRDI could even get the Dutch, Turks, Poles, etc to help. With the right team, we can get a 1,500-ton ship with AShW, ASW as well as AAW via an 8-cell VLS. Build some commonality with the MILGEM-J.

Will this not mean starting from drawing board?

Which, inadvertently, means 15 years (at least) for the ship to enter the waters.

 

[YeBeWarned]

may be PN is working on a new Strategy to use smaller ships to counter much larger IN ..

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Will this not mean starting from drawing board?

Which, inadvertently, means 15 years (at least) for the ship to enter the waters.

Ship design works a little differently from aircraft.

Pakistan doesn't make any of the major inputs for a ship, even if it designed the ship locally. The steel, engine, the electronics, etc, will come from abroad regardless. So, all of those inputs are available off-the-shelf.

The challenging part is to design that actual vessel -- so configure/layout the inputs, ensure weight distribution, and meet sea state requirements, etc. However, once you develop the expertise, it doesn't take long to design a solution -- that is why there are a lot of 'ship designers' in the world (including places like Romania, Poland, etc).

I think the NRDI can design a corvette if given the opportunity, especially if it taps into expertise from Turkey, the Netherlands, etc. It won't take 15 years for the first ship to enter waters, perhaps 3-5 years.