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Hi,
Pakistan's military conglomerate has again been caught short---the surfacing of the indian sub 40 nautical miles away just when the chinese naval ship was visiting pakistan---and the inauguration of CPEC route at Gwadar just showed the pak navy was woefully ill-equipped.
A few years ago when the rumors surfaced about pak military signing a 5 billion dollars deal for 8 chinese subs and supply time of 10 years from the time of signing---and delivery of the last submarine---.
I had written that---that deal was totally ill prepared and ill conceived---. I had stated that the target should have been 5 years project---number of submarine cut in half---and the other half split between surface ships and an aircraft of the type of JH7B---.
So---that all the three facets are covered at the same time in parallel---by three different groups---which has three times the force multiplier effect---.
So rather than just having 4 submarines in 5 years----you would also have 3-4 frigates of the 5000 + tonnage capacity plus at least 4 sqdrns of heavies---be it the JH7B---or the J16's----and some smaller vessels in the 500---1500 tonnage---.
After the 5 years---another deal of 5 billion signed for more subs and ships if needed.
The casual and callous attitude of the pak military showed that it did not foresee or visualize such an incident happening so close to its waters---and that shows a very poor understanding of what is at stake in the arena---at Gwadar---the arabian sea---the gulf---.
Basically---pak military has been caught with its pants down one more time.
Hi ,
Please ignore any miscalculations its just a raw theory that i am gonna put forward.
1. buying 8 submarines in a go is actually financially viable because when you sign a contract its based on predictive costs over the time including maintenance, spare parts, training , armaments etc so you an always upgrade the machine later with lesser cost rather than buying a completely new submarine which would include prediction done years later say in 2020. so it would cost more for same sub
2. S 20 subs are actually quite capable subs and seeing the track records of pak submarines operations they would obviously go for more subs(as they can not match indian surface fleets) to tackle india with major blows with subs and get max subs operating at any given time (6 out of 8)
3. These subs have well anti ship capabilities and most probably VLS which could be used to launch cruise missiles
(nuclear armed) or may even be mordanised to carry small ballistic missiles for nuke triad
4. Although china is an all weather friend even then pak wants to learn how to build subs, at cheaper cost, modular design with complete transfer of tech(they can't always buy from china indigenous is always better) plus they can modify it with whatever they want no need to tell china everything.
Although I agree with you that 8 no might be slightly on higher side but still I would say its not a failure