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Pakistan must reassess ties with Israel: Saleem Mandviwalla

The retarded one is the one I replied to, lol. Let there be no provocation


Lol, you didn't invent anything, the Greeks, Romans and Assyrians did. You just stole achievements from the Arabs, nothing more. Gypsies, by the way, got out of your native Pakistan, so they didn’t whine.I knew that you were a fool, because a lot of messages have been written about baths in the same Italy, Germany and Poland. But you're too lazy to think, it's easier to write myths. By the way, Byzantium was also a European country and they were not inferior in development to the Arabs.

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Lol, there was money laundering by the US military in Afghanistan.

LOL is that why your European ambassadors write letters to the Pakistani parliament. Dude get off the high horse. You are far from superior. We know how your diplomatic enclaves works behind the scenes in Pakistan and other developing nations.
 
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Blaming Israelis for our bad economy is like blaming your neighbor for you being impotent.
why you are so interested in derailing the thread who is blaming the Israel for our bad economy management. Its not in Pakistan interest to recognized Israel and end of the story and we have got more to loose then gain. However it may be in the PPP, Nora and Bajwa interests as Bilwal is supported by the US, Nora needs extension to stay in the UK and bajwa wants his papa jones to function.
 
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PPP Senator Saleem Mandviwalla on Saturday said Pakistan must reassess its ties with Israel and take the deal that is in its own best interest.

Mandviwalla, whose party is a part of the government, said: "We should not stop dialogue and trade with any country. People criticise Israel [but] we have to look after our own interests."

He said all the Middle East nations were negotiating and trading with Israel, adding that Pakistan must also do what suits its own interest.

Similarly, he indicated that the door for dialogue should not be closed on Pakistan's immediate neighbours, including India. "We have a border with India. Families live here. All three countries (India, Iran and Afghanistan) are important to us."

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Pakistan recognizes Israel or not. The final decision will be of whom, who was/is deciding in the interim period while IK was out and SS was not taken the oath.
IMO, Pakistan will be more destabilized in the aftermath of any such decision on US wishes, and we will regret it.
Those who are thinking that everything in Pakistan will boost after recognizing Israel are living in a fool's paradise. Pakistan will never get any resources for development but to utilize more resources for providing security to Israeli installations in the country. Even more, resources will be required to safeguard our own installations from adverse activities of spying on us from another Embassy.
Nothing will happen until Pakistanis get up on their own feet, else they have to crawl as they are crawling for the last 72 years on 'US AIDS AID'.
 
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PPP Senator Saleem Mandviwalla on Saturday said Pakistan must reassess its ties with Israel and take the deal that is in its own best interest.

Mandviwalla, whose party is a part of the government, said: "We should not stop dialogue and trade with any country. People criticise Israel [but] we have to look after our own interests."

He said all the Middle East nations were negotiating and trading with Israel, adding that Pakistan must also do what suits its own interest.

Similarly, he indicated that the door for dialogue should not be closed on Pakistan's immediate neighbours, including India. "We have a border with India. Families live here. All three countries (India, Iran and Afghanistan) are important to us."

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Pakistan will disintegrate if it recognizes Israel.

Pakistan was founded on Muslim Ideology, two-nation theory, to be a welfare state for all muslims and other minorities. A replica of state of Madinah Munawarrah.

Recognizing Israel is opposite of Pakistan's ideology, and going in oppositen direction has already caused us to lose Bangladesh.

Those who are wishing to recognize Israel are playing with fire.

Like I told you, they will use this artificially created inflation to create grounds for recognition of this illegal occupied land. It's a Dajjali fitnah that promises you worldly gains, will never be beneficial for Muslims.

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PPP Senator Saleem Mandviwalla on Saturday said Pakistan must reassess its ties with Israel and take the deal that is in its own best interest.

Mandviwalla, whose party is a part of the government, said: "We should not stop dialogue and trade with any country. People criticise Israel [but] we have to look after our own interests."

He said all the Middle East nations were negotiating and trading with Israel, adding that Pakistan must also do what suits its own interest.

Similarly, he indicated that the door for dialogue should not be closed on Pakistan's immediate neighbours, including India. "We have a border with India. Families live here. All three countries (India, Iran and Afghanistan) are important to us."

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How will Iran react to PPP doing this ?
 
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China recognized Israel and lives quietly, and received military and civilian technologies from them. What is stopping Pakistan from doing the same?

Dear, you are comparing two entirely different forms of government.

Pakistan is a so-called democracy with a multiple parties system, while China is a one party with its own system. The Pakistani model is based on compromised institutions based on corruption, bribes, and incentives to the corrupt by political parties for undue favors. While in China corrupt government officials face capital punishment.

Pakistan's atmosphere is very charged with religious sentiments as her ideology is based on religion. Maybe you heard/witnessed some disturbing incidents that happened in the near past.

Economically, China is a giant while Pakistan is still living on loans and foreign aid.
Past 72 years we were following the USA wishes and safeguarding their interest as most of the US AID lands to benefit the institutions and the elites of those institutions, even our justice system is also compromised. Most of our governments always look toward the USA and West for safeguarding their interests in return for incentives offered which China/Russia could not.
 
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What's wrong with Israel? This country does not seem to stick to you and does not attack.

China recognized Israel and lives quietly, and received military and civilian technologies from them. What is stopping Pakistan from doing the same?
There will not a single weapon system is going to come to Pakistan from the Israel only good wishes that's the fact due to the Indian factor. As regard to the civilian technologies what Israel have got to offer to the Pakistan which Pakistan can't get it from else where. Agriculture drip technology which some people are making song and dance about is so basic even one can copy it from the You tube.
What's wrong with the Israel??????????? The list is that long probably I will fall asleep. How about Israel is occupying some one else land and its an illegal state transplanted by the US/West when Muslim countries were weak. Still making people homeless and refugees in this day and age in there own country, killing stone throwing kids giving 2 fingers to the international and UN laws and is a terrorist country. Now don't give me one sided speech or and try to sell me some Israeli version of milk and honey which I never heard before or other Jewish faith people have not told me where I live in the UK. I got no problem with the Jewish faith or Jewish people as I live in the Jewish area I got work colleagues who are Jewish but with the state of Israel yes I have a principled stance.
 
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PPP Senator Saleem Mandviwalla on Saturday said Pakistan must reassess its ties with Israel and take the deal that is in its own best interest.

Mandviwalla, whose party is a part of the government, said: "We should not stop dialogue and trade with any country. People criticise Israel [but] we have to look after our own interests."

He said all the Middle East nations were negotiating and trading with Israel, adding that Pakistan must also do what suits its own interest.

Similarly, he indicated that the door for dialogue should not be closed on Pakistan's immediate neighbours, including India. "We have a border with India. Families live here. All three countries (India, Iran and Afghanistan) are important to us."

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Since when has Pakistan or Muslims supported apartheid. If someone wants to eat sh!t then let them , doesn't mean you should. Until there is a just solution to the Palestinian issue then Israel remains an enemy state. We have plenty of sell outs they must be removed from positions of power and stopped from spreading their corrupt views.

Kashmir is an integral part of Pakistan. Palestine is NOT. These are two different issues. Pakistan should re-consider its ties with Israel, especially economic ties for it's benefit.
Israel helping India to control Kashmir so why should we recognise it?
 
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