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Pakistan must become a secular state for better ties with India: Gen Rawat

Please tell me how would secularism initiate a yearning in Pakistani's for the British Raj along with Union Jack to be hoisted in New Delhi?
Forger Delhi , Your Pakistan was created from Lucknow . Most of the upper echelons of Muslims league were from UPites . Your first PM Liaquat Ali Khan was from UP . Pakistan created in 1947 was religious identity , not a regional identity , otherwise far-flung East Bengal wouldn't have been part of it .

The newly mined idea of pakistan as Indus valley estate and not exactly inheritors of Mughal dynasty of DElhi , so borne of out minds of those moderate muslims of pakistan who want define Pakistan in other terms beside Islam which has turned Pakistan a religious tinderbox .
 
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Please tell me how would secularism initiate a yearning in Pakistani's for the British Raj along with Union Jack to be hoisted in New Delhi?



Explain? Why would we want to join Myanmar, Bangla, India under the British Raj????

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British raj is not coming back. Islam is the primary identity is of Pakistan. If Pakistan goes secular, it will dis integrate or join India. You know that very well.
 
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so he will dictate us now?
wtf?

When we have @$$h0l3s in government, obviously countries like India, Somalia, Afghanistan, Bangladeshi, Bhutan, etc will dictate and troll us.

Rawat should stop it's r@nd1 r0na dehati aurat pun and prove India is secular by eating beef.
 
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India is a Hindu Rashtra...secular only on paper and in constitution, which no one follows.

And BTW why this joker of a person keeps on coming with funnier statements unbecoming of an Army Chief.

As it is said...if he looks like a joker, talks like a joker, behaves like a joker...than he might just as well be a joker...and Bipin was handpicked by the Modi...says a lot.



India is a Hindu Rashtra, will survive till Hinduism thrives: Mohan Bhagwat

Bhagwat said all ancient civilisation such as Mahenjodaro, Harappa and our culture developed in places which are now in Pakistan.


http://zeenews.india.com/india/indi...l-hinduism-thrives-mohan-bhagwat-2075264.html

What he says is very true. India is a Hindu country culturally but politically, India has adopted secularism. Infact, what India practice is even more than Secularism as India's Minority enjoys preferential rights.
 
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India's Minority enjoys preferential rights.

Bro I do not buy into this Hindu victimization by the minorities narrative of the Sangh.

Can you tell me as an Indian Hindu how you are disadvantaged in any way to me as an Indian Parsi?

Specifics please ....

I never had ONE seat reserved for me in Medicine anywhere in the country, in spite some of the biggest Medical Colleges and teaching Hospitals in Maharashtra being started and built by Parsis.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Bro I do not buy into this Hindu victimization by the minorities narrative of the Sangh.

Can you tell me as an Indian Hindu how you are disadvantaged in any way to me as an Indian Parsi?

Specifics please ....

I never had ONE seat reserved for me in Medicine anywhere in the country, in spite some of the biggest Medical Colleges and teaching Hospital in Maharashtra being started and built by Parsis.

Cheers, Doc

One example is the freedom of religious teaching.
Many civil laws based on religion such as Muslims can marry four women.
Preferential Rights to hold properties by Minority religious institutions.
Special boards for minorities.
Scholarships and other advantages based on Religions.
 
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Is Bipin running for PM by next Election? As witnessed since long, it is Indian Chief Calling Shots in India.

By the way Bipin has to consult with Sushma & Modi about Indian's close ties with Iran, KSA, UAE, Qatar or any other Muslim Ruling Country. He has to act as a professional and must not involve into these things. However, Indian Army Chief promoting or worshiping the Secular Approach sheds more light about the lives of Minorities in India.

It is indeed, highlighting that if Minorities wants to live in peace in India, must adopt Secularism otherwise, Government (Indian Army) will keep discriminating them. It is a pure representation of mindset within the Military Quarters along with Ruling Party Manifesto & Elites in India otherwise, would have been engaging others on different level on diplomacy. Sad state of affairs.
 
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One example is the freedom of religious teaching.
Many civil laws based on religion such as Muslims can marry four women.
Preferential Rights to hold properties by Minority religious institutions.
Special boards for minorities.
Scholarships and other advantages based on Religions.

Hindus have their religious schools. Matths and missions. Pathshalas. Gurukuls. RSS camps.

Hindus have their own Marriage and Property Laws.

Hindus get the lion's share (probably all of it) of reservations on a national level.

Come on man. What more do you want? Its touching 50% in many states. NONE of that comes to minorities.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Indian generals = Pakistan politicians
They both talk nonsense out of their hips.
 
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Secular like India? Maybe we should follow India's example and start lynching Hindus for eating veggies. Oh wait, we are not a brain dead and morally corrupt society. India can take it's secularism and shove it up it's kali maata's black hole of oblivion.
 
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SOURCE: ENS

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Pakistan must turn into a secular state to better its ties with India, said Army Chief General Bipin Rawat on Friday. He was delivering a lecture during the National Defence Academy (NDA) passing out parade ceremony in Pune. “Pakistan is an Islamic State. They must willingly become a secular country like us. If they have to stay hand-in-gloves with us, they have to develop themselves as a secular state,” General Rawat said.

General Rawat’s statement comes amid Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan expressing willingness for greater engagement with India.

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Thursday acknowledged that it was not in the country’s interest to allow its soil to be used for terrorism. Khan said he is ready to talk to PM Narendra Modi at “any time”.

General Rawat said he feels that Pakistan’s claim of taking strong steps towards good bilateral relations is contradictory unless there is a direct impact visible on the ground about its claims.

The Army Chief added that a positive step from Pakistan is what is needed presently because India has a clear policy that terror and talks cannot go together.

Talking about the induction of women in the Indian Army in a front-line combat role, General Rawat said, “You will see an increase in the role of women in armed forces. We have not yet taken them in the front-line combat role. We feel we are not yet ready. Western nations are more open. Boys and girls are operating together in big cities here but people in the Army do not only come from big cities.”

He said keeping women officers in fields like language interpreter and military diplomacy would be more beneficial. “We are seeing if women can be given Permanent Commission. In some fields where we need permanency and male officers in a command-oriented Army don’t fit everywhere, keeping women officers will be beneficial,” he said.



Yeh ghonchu kahan say aya hay
 
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Hindus have their religious schools. Maths and missions. Pathshalas. RSS camps.

You can not have a religious study in any Hindu school
Hindus have their own Marriage and Property Laws.

It is not based on any religion. A Hindu can not have 4 wives.
Hindus get the lion's share (probably all of it) of reservations on a national level.

I am a Hindu. I have never get any reservation. Reservation is backwardness based. It is not religion based like Muslims get benefit on the name of Religion. You must know that where it touches 50%, Muslims gets their own share out of that in addition to religious based benefits.
 
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What he says is very true. India is a Hindu country culturally but politically, India has adopted secularism. Infact, what India practice is even more than Secularism as India's Minority enjoys preferential rights.


That secularism is just a hogwash, a deception to make minorities feel good somehow....the ground reality is 'India is a Hindu Rashtra' just as Pakistan is a Muslim country...

And to eyewash the other powers as well, the secular bogey and all that... get the brownie points from the West, the Arabs, the EU countries...check the marginalization and ghettoization of Muslims in India, for instance, check any report about their living standards, their education standards, their university and higher learning percentage, job availability, their percentage in Govt....w.r.t their population.

Condition of Muslims worse than Dalits': Heptullah

https://www.thehindu.com/todays-pap...rse-than-Dalits-Heptullah/article14751786.ece

here I am not talking about the condition of Dalits, the untouchables the other lower castes.

Anyways...how can a country like India based on ugly caste and apartheid has the audacity and the semblance to call herself as secular and think that she is any better.

Caste system itself is a huge anomaly in India...no escaping from it, how can it be compared with a pluralist Islamic country...
 
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