Pakistan Missile Technology

[Argus Panoptes]

There's still stores all over.. they've gone into DHA as well.
Ferozesons wont die yet..

@Oscar, sir your analogy is apt. What you say above means that Pakistani diaspora will thrive in the richer parts of the world after the main store on Mall Road burns down. I can agree with that.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Hey chill mate Why indulge in personal attacks if you are sure your missiles are better?
Pakistan's Missile tech is India centric. While India 's is Pakistan and China centric. I don't design missiles. So can't give a final word. As far as the media is concerned, they are not reliable because top missile techs of all countries(including India and Pakistan) are kept secret. So how much is fact and how much is cover up - we civilians can't know for sure. Right?

Also there is another fallacy. You can't say the entire Pakistani Missile tech is superior. If you can specify which one is better than its Indian equivalent, we can then debate.

For example - What is special about Shaheen II that puts all other Indian Missiles to shame?

Nope when i realize that i am talking to 10 year old keyboard hindu warrior.
First of all, it's your own media discrediting your missiles, and saying Pakistan has better missiles than Bharat.
Talking about our insecurity: as for as we have shaheen II type missiles who can hit your ar$$ anywhere, we don't give a sh!t to ICBM.

So now lets talk about insecurity of you people , starting from ISI pigeons to ISI camel agents, you guys are the world champion of stupidity for eternity, their is a reason why we call you Bharitis

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

@SarthakGanguly @PWFI and others
if u r so fond of comparing missiles move your discussion to a vs thread there are a lot of them

 

[Windjammer]

LONDON: The world’s leading nuclear experts have revealed that Indian nuclear technology and capabilities are far behind than its putative adversaries, Pakistan and China.

Hans M Kristensen, director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists and Robert S Norris, Senior Research Associate Natural Resources Defence Council Inc, Washington, in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists revealed that for New Delhi, the principal means of weapons delivery remains fixed-wing aircraft like the Mirage-2000 and the Jaguar. Unlike Pakistan and China, which have substantial deployed missile arsenals, India’s missile force is lagging, despite the test-launch of the Agni V in 2012.

The Bulletin notes, “The Agni I and Agni II, despite being declared operational, both have reliability issues that have delayed their full operational service.” The other missiles in the Agni series – the Agni III, IV and V – all remain under development. Indeed, the report notes that “the bulk of the Indian ballistic missile force is comprised of three versions of Prithvi missiles, but only one of these versions, the army’s Prithvi I, has a nuclear role”. Considering that the lumbering Prithvi I requires hours to get ready for launch and has a range of just 150km, it indicates that the Indian nuclear weapons capability is short-legged indeed, the experts said.

Nevertheless, the Bulletin notes, the development of the Agni V has introduced “a new dynamic into the already complex triangular security relationship between India, Pakistan and China”.

Former Indian naval chief Admiral Arun Prakash has admitted that India is lagging in nuclear capabilities and said, “We have to rely on the word of our DRDO/DAE scientists as far as performance, reliability, accuracy and yield of missiles and nuclear warheads are concerned. Unfortunately, hyperbolic claims coupled with dissonance within the ranks of our scientists have eroded their credibility.”

“As of now,” the Bulletin says, “we estimate that India has produced 80-100 nuclear warheads”. In the case of Pakistan, whose evaluation was done in 2011, the Bulletin analysis has said that “it has the world’s fastest-growing nuclear stockpile”, estimating that Pakistan “has 90-110 nuclear weapons”. The Pakistani arsenal, too, consists of mainly aircraft-dropped bombs, but with its Chinese-supplied missiles, it has a deployed arsenal of missiles like the Ghaznavi, Shaheen I and Ghauri and is developing longer-range missiles. Significantly, Pakistan’s India-specific arsenal comprises of the Nasr short-range (70km) ballistic missile, which can use nuclear weapons to take out troop formations and Pakistan is in the advanced stage of developing two cruise missiles – the Babar and the Raad.

If this is dismaying for New Delhi, the comparison with China is positively alarming. Beijing has an arsenal of 240 or so warheads and it is adding to this number, though not at the pace Pakistan is. Its nuclear weapons are primarily delivered through a mature missile arsenal with ranges from 2,000-11,000km. A large number of Chinese missiles, including their cruise missiles, are primarily for use in non-nuclear conventional battle role. Raghavan acknowledges that “China is a different kettle of fish”, but he says even so, with the Agni V test, “India’s progress has been commendable”. But there are big differences between India and China in terms of technology and capability.
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

@Oscar @Aeronaut @Jungibaaz @WebMaster @Zakki @nuclearpak @ANTIBODY ..... time to clean up the thread..

 

[Windjammer]

Hey windi .... your article is really credible



After induction of Agni 1 & 2, Agni 3 already inducted back in 2010 And A4 need only one more test.

But still Pakistan shown nothing new in terms of missiles only testing old missiles again and again ( you know the reason), now India move from ICBM to Submarine launch ballistic missiles.

your country can only dream to built that.

"Empty vessels make most noise".....and you are an ample proof to the fact. !!

 

[zainzain]

thanks this is very good information for us

 

[gslv mk3]

"Empty vessels make most noise".....and you are an ample proof to the fact. !!

come on dude,can you make a SLBM(already tested),a SAM system(already inducted) an ICBM(under testing) or a BMD(under testing)???

 

[gslv mk3]

Hans M Kristensen, director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists and Robert S Norris, Senior Research Associate Natural Resources Defence Council Inc, Washington, in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists revealed that for New Delhi, the principal means of weapons delivery remains fixed-wing aircraft like the Mirage-2000 and the Jaguar. Unlike Pakistan and China, which have substantial deployed missile arsenals, India’s missile force is lagging, despite the test-launch of the Agni V in 2012.

The Bulletin notes, “The Agni I and Agni II, despite being declared operational, both have reliability issues that have delayed their full operational service.” The other missiles in the Agni series – the Agni III, IV and V – all remain under development. Indeed, the report notes that “the bulk of the Indian ballistic missile force is comprised of three versions of Prithvi missiles, but only one of these versions, the army’s Prithvi I, has a nuclear role”. Considering that the lumbering Prithvi I requires hours to get ready for launch and has a range of just 150km, it indicates that the Indian nuclear weapons capability is short-legged indeed, the experts said.

Nevertheless, the Bulletin notes, the development of the Agni V has introduced “a new dynamic into the already complex triangular security relationship between India, Pakistan and China”.

Former Indian naval chief Admiral Arun Prakash has admitted that India is lagging in nuclear capabilities and said, “We have to rely on the word of our DRDO/DAE scientists as far as performance, reliability, accuracy and yield of missiles and nuclear warheads are concerned. Unfortunately, hyperbolic claims coupled with dissonance within the ranks of our scientists have eroded their credibility.”

“As of now,” the Bulletin says, “we estimate that India has produced 80-100 nuclear warheads”. In the case of Pakistan, whose evaluation was done in 2011, the Bulletin analysis has said that “it has the world’s fastest-growing nuclear stockpile”, estimating that Pakistan “has 90-110 nuclear weapons”. The Pakistani arsenal, too, consists of mainly aircraft-dropped bombs, but with its Chinese-supplied missiles, it has a deployed arsenal of missiles like the Ghaznavi, Shaheen I and Ghauri and is developing longer-range missiles. Significantly, Pakistan’s India-specific arsenal comprises of the Nasr short-range (70km) ballistic missile, which can use nuclear weapons to take out troop formations and Pakistan is in the advanced stage of developing two cruise missiles – the Babar and the Raad.

If this is dismaying for New Delhi, the comparison with China is positively alarming. Beijing has an arsenal of 240 or so warheads and it is adding to this number, though not at the pace Pakistan is. Its nuclear weapons are primarily delivered through a mature missile arsenal with ranges from 2,000-11,000km. A large number of Chinese missiles, including their cruise missiles, are primarily for use in non-nuclear conventional battle role. Raghavan acknowledges that “China is a different kettle of fish”, but he says even so, with the Agni V test, “India’s progress has been commendable”. But there are big differences between India and China in terms of technology and capability.
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

even Agni III is inducted,not to say about Canisterised Shaurya Quasi ballistic missile and Brahmos and we are also developing a BMD system(which had succesful tests for 7 years)

Now nuclear tech?Can you even design and build a commercial Nuclear reactor ??
We are pretty much advanced,we are considered world leader in thorium technology,we have our own fast breeder designs and world knows our advancement in Nuclear tech,thats why we were invited to (and we are a part of ) Intenational Thermonuclear Experimental project

 

[fatman17]

Bluffer's Guide: Pakistani Nuclear Forces


This does not form an exhaustive or authoritative text on the subject and is politically unbiased.


Pakistan’s nuclear deterrent is primarily shouldered by Army Strategic Force Command (ASFC) although the Air Force (PAF) and Navy (PN) may develop nuclear capabilities in the near future.

Hatf-1 Short Range Ballistic Missiles (SRBM)
Range: 80km (110km Hatf-Ia), Payload: 500kg

The Hatf-1 (Deadly-1) is a battlefield rocket in a similar class to the Soviet FROG. It is allegedly developed from the French Eridan rocket. It was developed by Pakistan in the 1980s and was in service by 1990. The system may still be operational, but is unlikely to carry nuclear warheads. Unusually for a ballistic missile the launch rail, which elevates to about 70degrees for launch, is mounted on a recycled WWII anti-aircraft gun platform.


Hatf-II (first version) Short Range Ballistic Missiles (SRBM)
Range: 280km, Payload: 500kg

The original Hatf-II project was simply a two-stage Hatf-I. The range was claimed to be more than tripled. Although the system was paraded, the project appears to have been abandoned about the time Pakistan bought the more sophisticated M-11 type from China. A new “Hatf-II” missile is now entering service and although it fulfills the same role, it is quite distinct.


M-11 Short Range Ballistic Missiles (SRBM) (China: DF-11)
Range: 300km, Payload: 500kg

Although Pakistan had started development of the Hatf-I and Hatf-II during the 1980s the acquisition of foreign missile technology during the early 1990s was crucial to the future development of more capable missiles. The key technology transfer during this time was the purchase of M-11 short-range missiles which became operational by 1993 and are still in service. It is possible that China was reluctant to supply longer range missiles due to the 300km limit agreed in the 1987 Missile Technology Control Regime. Although development of the M-11 had started in the 1970s it was in 1992 still very modern, and it demonstrates the strength of Pakistan-Chinese relations because a) by exporting this technology China must have known that they were providing Pakistan with the means to develop rockets that would one day range over their own cities and b) it entered service with Pakistan years before it did with China’s own forces.



Ghaznavi Short Range Ballistic Missiles (SRBM) (Hatf III)
Range: 290km, Payload: 500kg

The Hatf-III is essentially the locally built equivalent to the M-11, although the design is distinct. The missile is solid fuelled for enhanced mobility/shoot and scoot. The final missile was handed over to the Pakistani military in 2007.


Abdali Short Range Ballistic Missile (SRBM) (Hatf II)
Range: 200km, Payload: 500kg.

Years after abandoning the Hatf-II, the designation was recycled for a similar but more modern (and presumably more successful) design. The system is probably a replacement for the increasingly obsolete Hatf-I.



Shaheen I Medium Range Ballistic Missile (MRBM)(Hatf IV)
Range: 750km, Payload: 750kg

The Shaheen-I represents Pakistan’s indigenous MRBM program, and can potentially strike Mumbai and New Delhi from Pakistani soil. It is almost certainly nuclear capable. Being solid fuelled it is far harder to detect prior to launch than the SCUD or other liquid fuelled systems.



Ghauri Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM)(Hatf V)
Range: 1,500km (2,500km Hatf-Va), Payload: 700-1,200kg

Although the 750km range of the Shaheen-I was ample to assure nuclear deterrence against India, being able to threaten New Delhi, and even reach Mumbai from the South Eastern tip of Pakistan, Pakistan wanted a longer ranged missile. The 1,500km (some source 1,400km) ranged Ghuari-I missile could range over most of India from Pakistani territory. This was promptly followed up by an enhanced version capable of firing 2,500km.

The Ghauri family is essentially the North Korean NoDong type and represents the technological safeguard against the more advanced indigenous Shaheen program. Having said that, the Ghauri appears to have got the spotlight relative to its more potent stable mate.



Shaheen II Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM)(Hatf VI)
Range: 2,500km, Payload: 1,000kg

Although the name implies a close relative of the Shaheen-I, the Shaheen-II is in fact quite different in almost every detail, though most noticeable is the fact that it is much larger being divided into two stages. The fins are also completely different and the TEL is necessarily much longer.

The 2,500km range Shaheen-II is estimation the most potent ballistic missile in Pakistani service, being able much quicker to ready and fire than the Ghauri because of its solid-fuel motor.



Babur Cruise Missile (Hatf VII)
Range: 700km, Payload: 300-500kg

Developed from technology acquired when several US Tomahawk cruise missile enroot to Taliban targets in Afghanistan crashed in Pakistan, the Babur appears to be a very credible cruise missile.

The initial trials version was launched from a single rail trailer mounted launcher that elevated to nearly vertical for firing. This launcher was also displayed at IDEAS06 defense exhibition with a dummy missile.


Although it is possible that this design is also used for some in-service units, the folding tail fins of the Bubar prove that it was always intended for compact box or tube launch. The main in-service Bubar unit carries four missiles mounted on an off-road truck chassis similar to those used by Pakistan’s ballistic missiles, although in this case the cab is similar to that of the Chinese M-11. Although it’s not yet clear whether the missile will be fired vertically, I don’t think that is the case after looking at the launcher in more detail. The framework around the box launchers appears to be for some form of hording.


Thunder (Ra’ad ) Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM)(Hatf-VIII)
Range: 350kg, Payload: 300-500kg (est)

The Ra’ad is significantly smaller than the Babur, at approximately 5.25m in length, making it much better suited to combat aircraft.


Although the Babur could be carried by aircraft it is too large for most in an operational setting. The Hatf-VIII is likely to be carried by Mirage-III fighter bombers on the centerline hardpoint, but cold be carried by F-16s and potentially JF-17s in the future. It’s too large for the PAF’s F-7s and A-5s. The Hatf-VIII is the PAF’s first serious long ranged standoff weapon, giving them reach over most of India, albeit under resistance from Indian forces. It is not clear whether it will carry nuclear warheads – conventional seems more likely – but it may get nuclear warheads simply for political purposes with the Air Force playing their role in Pakistan’s deterrence.

Bluffers Guide.

 

[Safriz]

The Author needs to update on Babur missile...A four missile version was paraded,but never went into production.
The final and current launcher carries three missiles.

The article did not mention the advances in re-entry module of shaheen II.
It has sideways rocket motors which allows multiple changes of flight path to confuse ABM systems.

Ghauri was built on Russian SS-18's doctrine.(not design)
At that time Pakistan lacked accuracy and CEP was in many miles.
So a heavy lifter was needed to carry a large nuclear bomb which can annihilate the whole of downtown mumbai. Thats why hydrazine based liquid rocket design was persued due to its heavy lift capabilities.
Later advances in technology improved accuracy and a heavy lifter was not needed. As Pakistan could now target with higher accuracy using lighter smaller warheads.
Still we dont have much fissile material,and for that reason we wont see an MIRV anytime soon,as with the current stock of weapon grade uranium and plutonium its better to disperse the warneads onboard georaphically distributed platform than risking mounting them on one or few large MIRV carrying missiles....as that will give enemy more chance to neutralize our nukes by striking a few select targets and destroying the few MIRV carrying silos or TELs.
The only thing we need now is true depressed trajectory missiles,which we dont have.
Because we still use fins and veins for missile manoevering.
Unlike india's K series which have gimballing rocket nozzle instead of veins,and hence a true depressed trajectory ballistic missile.

 

[MFK5000]

Once we have heard about TIPU Missile (ICBM).....any Update..:/

 

[Safriz]

Once we have heard about TIPU Missile (ICBM).....any Update..:/

Shelved due to change in doctrine....
Reading the comments above will help.

 

[[Bregs]]

Pakistan has variable variety of missile in its arsenal

 

[Bratva]

Pakistani missile hitting target 0:16-0:20