PAKISTAN MAY NEGOTIATE WITH UKRAINE FOR 100 OPLOT-M MAIN BATTLE TANKS

[SQ8]

So we don't have infrastructure to support Altay Tank???

Not a correct statement. We do, but what the Altay was built for and costs we don't have a cost effective need for.
Essentially, we need mobile forces to counter Indias Mobile forces. Almost like mass dances over the desert because anywhere else we have trench and bunker warfare all along LoC and Punjab. There it is steamroller dig, hold and move warfare, while the actual territory grab is in Thar and lower Sindh as the Indians did in 71(most of it is tradh desert but has strategic mobility value)

There we need forces capable of rapid pincers and flanks with hit and run capability- that is where tanks like our T-80 and Ak flying at high speed in the desert are at ther best. The same goes for Indian T-90s and BMps; their forces are more capable at moving combined forces as compared to ours but have range issues that our apcs do not.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

From 2014, this was Ukraine's proposal for a future MBT. Most of the subsystems have been developed or are nearing completion, e.g. 6TD-3 engine, Zaslon APS, etc. The main thing that has yet to be seen is the arrow-welded turret (which looks like that of the K2 Black Panther). Otherwise, this seems to be pretty close to what the Pakistan Army is imagining for the al-Khalid 2 (minus APS?).

@TheOccupiedKashmir @Oscar @Arsalan

 

[pzfz]

eastern/soviet design derived tanks desperately need a protected turret mantlet like the one shown on the future MBT. The oplot does not have it, neither do any of the Sino tanks.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan Likely To Test Ukrainian Oplot MBT

Oplot Main Battler Tank (Image: Ukroboronprom)


Ukraine’s Oplot main battle tank which will soon be taken into service by the country’s army is likely to be tested by Pakistan.

Ukrainian news portal, Depo.Harkov stated citing Malyshev Plantlast week that the recently rolled out MBT is set for delivery to Pakistan.

Oplot is to be taken into service by the Ukrainian Army, the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov stated during his visit to UKROBORONPROM SE ”Malyshev Plant.

“Today, the whole line of Ukrainian tanks is manufactured at the plant, including the best domestic tank “Oplot “, which – due to its high cost – is produced only under export contracts. Ukrainian troops are to have these tanks to reliably protect our country” -said Oleksandr Turchynov.

He added that the new State Defense Order 2018 must necessarily provide for the delivery of “Oplot” tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

“The State Concern” UkrOboronProm” established batch production of “Oplot” tanks. This product is the result of Ukraine’s national production: 100+ domestic enterprises are involved in the production of these tanks. Such an order will allow to equip the Army with powerful armored vehicles, providing work for the enterprises, “- stressed UKROBORONPROM (UOP) representatives.

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/19696/Pakistan_Likely_To_Test_Ukrainian_Oplot_MBT#.WVODU5DytPY

 

[imranyounus]

to day on FB I read an artical where they pointed to the MBT as Oplot P so why dont we call it sa same

 

[Arsalan]

From 2014, this was Ukraine's proposal for a future MBT. Most of the subsystems have been developed or are nearing completion, e.g. 6TD-3 engine, Zaslon APS, etc. The main thing that has yet to be seen is the arrow-welded turret (which looks like that of the K2 Black Panther). Otherwise, this seems to be pretty close to what the Pakistan Army is imagining for the al-Khalid 2 (minus APS?).

@TheOccupiedKashmir @Oscar @Arsalan

You know what i WANT for the future MBT of Pakistan. I know we are not to indulge in speculation but what we have discussed in the past is quite realistic and do-able. Still i wish list however. Lets just hope they can think of it or something even better.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

You know what i WANT for the future MBT of Pakistan. I know we are not to indulge in speculation but what we have discussed in the past is quite realistic and do-able. Still i wish list however. Lets just hope they can think of it or something even better.

Keep watching the video. You'll see the Future IFV platform. I suspect the FMBT and FIFV are derived from the baseline. Just throw in a tracked SPH and you have a family.

 

[Arsalan]

So we don't have infrastructure to support Altay Tank???

NI bahi, UNN WALAY bridges and fly overs mein rait bajri puri ni dali gai kabhi bhe

On a serious note, it is more about a mix of number things that will factor in and which make a heavy tank not suitable for us.

Keep watching the video. You'll see the Future IFV platform. I suspect the FMBT and FIFV are derived from the baseline. Just throw in a tracked SPH and you have a family.

The problem is,

ARE THE AUTHORITIES LOOKING AT IT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.

Let us hope they are!

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Is Pakistan getting this version?

https://www.facebook.com/

 

[Gryphon]

Secretary defence visits Ukraine to attend meeting

ISLAMABAD: Secretary Defense Lt Gen Zamir ul Hassan Shah (retd) is on an official visit to Ukraine in order to attend the second meeting of joint commission on military and defense production fields.

Secretary Defense has also visited the defense industry of Ukraine. He mentioned that Pakistan values its relations with Ukraine and believes that the relationship will strengthen with the passage of time, says a press release issued here on Wednesday.—PR

http://epaper.brecorder.com/2017/07/06/2-page/886918-news.html

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Secretary defence visits Ukraine to attend meeting

ISLAMABAD: Secretary Defense Lt Gen Zamir ul Hassan Shah (retd) is on an official visit to Ukraine in order to attend the second meeting of joint commission on military and defense production fields.

Secretary Defense has also visited the defense industry of Ukraine. He mentioned that Pakistan values its relations with Ukraine and believes that the relationship will strengthen with the passage of time, says a press release issued here on Wednesday.—PR

http://epaper.brecorder.com/2017/07/06/2-page/886918-news.html

If let say Oplot-P is selected by Pakistan will Pakistan produce them locally as well???

 

[Mitho1980]

What more does oplot offer than our current mbt? Or Chinese current mbt?

 

[The SC]

What more does oplot offer than our current mbt? Or Chinese current mbt?

- It can accurately destroy tanks and planes flying at low altitudes. And provide a high protection system for the crew

- Armour can be added around the cabin
- A built-in protection system with passive shield
- A 125-mm Caliber cannon, 46-mm artillery shells with automatic feed system
- A 12.7 mm sub-machine gun with 450 rounds
- A 7.62 mm machine gun with 1250 rounds

- The cannon can fire laser-guided missiles against tanks and aircraft
- The missile range is 5 km

- The Oplot-M can hit fixed and moving targets with the same precision
- A television cameras and thermal night-time/day-time
- A modern fire control system and a panoramic view with thermal vision for the leader

- It also has an early warning system and a laser-guided missile jamming system
- A smoke curtain and an infrared grill system
- And a mine detection system

- Speed is 70 km
- Range 500 km without refueling

 

[alimobin memon]

When will homming missiles be added on tanks. Since they fire ATGM a infrared seeker missile should be present with 3 to 4 km range for greater probability of small aircraft like heli.

 

[Mitho1980]

Good are we getting tot or just 100 tanks