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PAKISTAN MAY NEGOTIATE WITH UKRAINE FOR 100 OPLOT-M MAIN BATTLE TANKS

Oplot is one of the best tank & is in best top 10 tanks in the world but Oplot did fail the trials conducted by PA in Pakistan, so why is PA opting for Oplot? I believe it is maybe because after the trials Ukraine was able to fix the problems Oplot was having. What do you guys think?

I hope they come with ToT but engine might be a issue.
 
Oplot-M as al haider?

Al Khalid 2 is expected to weigh more than 52 tonnes and Oplot-M weighs 51 tonnes?? What is this? First we are going for 200 heavy weight tanks and after that again returning to lighter weight..

Oplot- M is cheaper, is this the reason for purchasing it?

Don't go on weight performance is the main key besides light weight do have advantage of agility and running easily in swamp areas

Al-Haider will be some new platform PA will not go for oplot as a AL-Haider. AL-Haider will be the most powerful tank of PA it will be superior to all the tanks available in PA arsenal
 
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The Oplot-M is a good all round MBT that certainly fits our profile from a cost and value for money perspective. It is agile, has good sensors, and is well protected by active and passive defensive systems. It has a solid ammunition package. This tank will likely complement our existing fleet. For the mentioned price tag this tank offers excellent value. When we look at other tanks with similar capabilities the cost is significantly higher. I think we can expect some level of ToT. Pakistan should certainly push for as much ToT as possible, but we can expect the Ukrainians to demand a significant order. I wouldn't be surprised if we went through with the deal. It remains to be seen what the actual numbers are.

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In an interview on April 20 with the Ukrainian newspaper Delovaya Stolitsa, Pakistan’s ambassador to Ukraine Athar Abbas revealed that Pakistan could buy more than 100 Oplot-M main battle tanks (MBT) from the Malyshev Factory. As per Abbas, negotiations will start once final tests are complete.
Responding to a question about Pakistan’s willingness to pursue defence ties with Ukraine, Abbas outlined that Pakistan was seeking Ukraine’s cooperation in modernizing the Pakistan Army’s armour.
Abbas noted the U.S. $600 million memorandum-of-understanding (MoU) overhaul and modernization deal signed in November during IDEAS 2016 in Karachi. He also brought up the MoU signed during IDEX 2017 in Abu Dhabi on the co-production of tank engines.

As per Ukrainian News Agency Interfax, the first set of contracts under these MoUs have also been issued – in March, Ukraine received an order to supply 88 tank sights for Pakistan’s T-80UD MBTs.
Notes & Comments:
The Oplot-M was one of the tanks competing for the Pakistan Army’s Haider MBT requirement, which was envisaged to help propel the Army’s armour modernization goals and support the al-Khalid MBT. Athar Abbas’ comments to Delovaya Stolitsa may indicate that the Haider program is still alive, though this has yet to be confirmed by Pakistan Army officials.

Since Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building’s (KMDB) 1,200 hp 6TD-2 engine powers Pakistan’s al-Khalid MBT (and the 1,500 hp 6TD-3 is likely the leading option for the al-Khalid 2), buying the Oplot-M would require less in terms of added maintenance, logistics and training investment compared to another platform.
The Oplot-M is a variant of the T-84, which itself is an upgrade of the T-80UD in use by Pakistan. Weighing 48 tons, the Oplot-M is powered by a KMDB 1,200 hp 6TD-2 diesel engine. It is armed with a 125 mm KBA3 smoothbore gun, which can fire anti-tank guided missiles, armour-piercing discarding sabot fin-stabilized (APDSFS) shells and high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) shells.
One of the Oplot-M’s differentiating features (compared to the T-80UD and T-84) is its new welded turret, which accompanies KMDB’s latest in explosive reactive armour (ERA).
Currently, Thailand is the Oplot-M’s sole export buyer. The Royal Thai Army ordered 49 Oplot-Ms in March 2011, though Ukraine’s strife with Russia resulted in several major delays, causing Bangkok to supplement its Oplot-M order with a purchase of VT-4 MBTs from China. However, the purchase was not cancelled and Thailand is in the process of receiving the Oplot-Ms from Ukraine.
http://quwa.org/2017/05/02/pakistan-may-negotiate-ukraine-100-oplot-m-main-battle-tanks/

Since Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building’s (KMDB) 1,200 hp 6TD-2 engine powers Pakistan’s al-Khalid MBT (and the 1,500 hp 6TD-3 is likely the leading option for the al-Khalid 2), buying the Oplot-M would require less in terms of added maintenance, logistics and training investment compared to another platform.

This reveals a lot. There is more to this potential deal than meets the eye.
 
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Collaborating on the Motor Sich MS-500V could be interesting. I'm not sure if Pakistan has any 3.5 to 6-ton helicopters in need of new engines right now. However, if Motor Sich can develop a 1,000+ kW version (they're at 800+ kW right now), then we'd have an alternative for the T-129...

http://www.motorsich.com/eng/products/aircraft/turboshaft/ms500v/
Well, if that's true, which it seems to be, at least I'm not surprised but of course really satisfied since in the recent time Pakistani military has realised the significance of helicopters and the demand will increase in future so it is very much possible that program to develop a helicopter indigenously through a blend of JVs, ToT's and co-production may have already taken a shape behind the scenes as is the case with most of the defence production programs in Pakistan.

JF-17 (super 7) came to public knowledge at least a few years after the program was initially launched.
 
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If PA buys Oplot then will PA be able to integrate Chinese/Turkish ("superior") equipments on it?
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I agree but it will have to first pass tests

It's all hogwash unless based purely on merit.

As i said, when they say Pakistan may buy Oplot read 6TD-3.

From what i have heard at HIT, 6TD-3 have proven toooooo much of an attraction. Remember there is an AK-II/Al Haider program that will get a new life.

So dont be surprised if it is PASSED and 100 odd are bought along with ToT of subsystems like . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the engine! :angel:

If im not wrong, the biggest interest in Oplot is not the tank but the 6TD-3 engine because we need a locally produced 1500hp engine for AK-2 and Ukrainians won't sell the engine tot without an oplot purchase. There's absolutely no interest in using 6TD-2 engine for upcoming tanks.
You are spot on janab!
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I dun see why would they buy them anyways, they have al khalid 2 and it contains most advance technologies. Why to waste money on relativly expensive platform when you even promised semi automated secondry weapon in al khalid 3
We LOVE that engine and rightly so. If you know a bit about these things and read about this engine yoy will get an idea. 100 odd tanks will make the deal sweeter for Ukarine.

Our T80s have many same components and we are looking to upgrade those. Adding tank with parts commonality will be an added advantage.
 
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As i said, when they say Pakistan may buy Oplot read 6TD-3.

From what i have heard at HIT, 6TD-3 have proven toooooo much of an attraction. Remember there is an AK-II/Al Haider program that will get a new life.

So dont be surprised if it is PASSED and 100 odd are bought along with ToT of subsystems like . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the engine! :angel:


You are spot on janab!
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The engine was the only issue OPLOT M had during trials so testing OPLOT M again means testing the engine basically and if it fails again than we won't go for engine
 
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