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Pakistan likely to buy S20 submarines from China

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Will be good if coming fitted with VLS as Agot got no room for VLS
 
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Makes little difference. While the generic design may be similar but the capability may vary based on the requirements of the customer. Anyways, this "threat" of "your enemy would get an insight on the capabilities" is overblown.
Pakistan Agosta are different from any other Agosta serving in another country. similar
 
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Foreign media exposed China's latest conventional submarines from Germany 212 submarine design
According to Canada, "Chinese Defense Review" website reported on March 24 in Wuhan shipyard there is a new ship diesel-powered submarines, the shape of the front of the biggest change is that the contact angle of sail and hull becomes streamlined. Such changes similar to Germany's 212 series designed primarily to further reduce sail water, underwater resistance, reduce water noise.
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Article that appeared aboard the new submarine is most likely on the basis of the 039B, made more improvements, modern European diesel-electric submarine design, not just change the sail shape by reducing water resistance, the hull itself from the traditional The water drop change into a cigar -type, the Chinese navy publications over the past 10 years, quite carefully analyzed the structure and design advantages of the cigar-shaped hull, so the new 039 is also improved using the cigar-shaped hull future needs sustained attention.

In addition, Germany , Japan and diesel-electric submarines dive rudder also changed from the traditional cross of X-type, in order to enhance the effectiveness of the rudder. Are 039C also uses X-type submarine rudder? Deserves further attention.

The biggest improvement will be concentrated in the fire control and weapons systems. Now, China has been learned on the basis of Club-S submarine-to-ship missile series on cloning his "submarine-launched, multi-purpose super-combined subsonic missile." This missile is likely to apply to 039C. And can be deployed to the already mass-039B. As AIP Stirling engine has been equipped to the number of vessels 039B, 039C and therefore will also continue to use the Stirling engine .

039C appear, it means 039B production end? Needs further observation, since 2012, did not find Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard Wuhan continue production of signs 039B
 
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This is going to fall through and fizzle out, just like last time (when we heard Pakistan was interested in Chinese SSKs).

Until one or both of the following happen, don't expect any major purchases from Pakistan:

1. Thorough review of US-Pakistan ties in the sense Pakistan will act on its own interests, even if those interests are counter to US interests (e.g. focusing on countering India, meddling in Afghanistan, etc).

2. An end to the fighting in Waziristan, militarily or otherwise. The US does not want to see Pakistan wrap up its internal security problems, it wants to see Pakistan drag its feet and burn its resources, its stability and its focus on the tribal region.
 
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I am sure that BD are also buying the S-20 and I wish they would make a deal similar to PNs agosta for local assembly of two out of three of them.
 
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AIP has nothing to do with max operating depth, which is purely dependant on the structural strength of the hull

S20 submarine has depth of 300m without API same as Agosta's without api , after API upgrade the depth emerged to 348meters for agosta. So we can conclude that S20 ****'s are getting with api will have same depth. Furthermore the signatures of these subs cant be determined so early and by scaled version of yuan doesn't mean it isn't as good as yuan. as it was stated "The API and sensor suites from Yuan can be installed on request of customer". stop saying that agosta would be better at max they are equivalent. Why is it that asians tend to feel like west is always above in terms of technology. Even the predecessor of yuan "song class" penetrated the Battlegroup of USA without letting them notice.
 
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Press Releases (PR No. 589): Chief of Naval Staff calls on Finance Minister

The Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Muhammad Asif Sandila, called on the Finance Minister, Senator Ishaq Dar to discuss various matters of mutual interest including Pakistan Navy projects, Pakistan’s internal and external security situation and the steps being taken by the government to bring peace and stability to the country.

The Naval Chief thanked the Finance Minister for giving due consideration to the financial requirements of Pakistan Navy in maintaining its capabilities to defend the country’s frontiers at sea.

The Finance Minister assured the Naval Chief that defence of the country remained the Government’s top priority and that it was determined to take all actions, and to commit all resources, required to ensure that no enemy from within or outside could bring any harm to Pakistan. The Finance Minister also said that enhanced defence capabilities required a strong economy and society, and that the government was focused on accelerating the pace of socioeconomic development in the country to ensure both peace and prosperity for Pakistan.

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I am reading too much b/w the line ....... :angel:
 
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