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China Focus: President Xi chairs High-level Dialogue on Global Development, vowing continued support to 2030 Agenda​

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2022-06-25 02:42:13
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Xueren)
BEIJING, June 24 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping on Friday chaired the High-level Dialogue on Global Development in Beijing via video link and delivered important remarks.
President Abdelmadjid Tebboune of Algeria, President Alberto Fernandez of Argentina, President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi of Egypt, President Joko Widodo of Indonesia, President Seyyed Ebrahim Raeisi of Iran, President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev of Kazakhstan, President Vladimir Putin of Russia, President Macky Sall of Senegal, President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa, President Shavkat Mirziyoyev of Uzbekistan, Vice President Hamilton Mourao of Brazil, Prime Minister Hun Sen of Cambodia, Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed Ali of Ethiopia, Prime Minister Josaia Voreqe Bainimarama of Fiji, Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India, Prime Minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob of Malaysia, and Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha of Thailand attended the Dialogue.
Focusing on the theme "Foster a Global Development Partnership for the New Era to Jointly Implement the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development", leaders of all countries had in-depth exchange of views on such major issues as strengthening international development cooperation and accelerating the implementation of the UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. They discussed ways to promote development cooperation and reached wide, important common understandings.
President Xi Jinping delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development".
President Xi Jinping pointed out that development is a timeless theme for humanity. Only through continuous development can the people's dream for a better life and social stability be realized. Over the years, developing countries have worked unremittingly to explore development paths suited to their national realities and to pursue economic and social development. Such efforts have produced remarkable outcomes. Today, emerging markets and developing countries account for half of the world economy, and notable progress has been made in science and technology, education, social development, culture and many other areas. We are meeting at a time when the COVID-19 pandemic is eroding decades of gains in global development, the implementation of the UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development is encountering difficulties, the North-South gap keeps widening, and crises are emerging in food and energy security. At the same time, people in all countries are more keen about pursuing peace, development and cooperation, emerging markets and developing countries are more resolved to seek strength through unity, and the new round of scientific and technological revolution and industrial transformation is bringing more opportunities to countries around the world.
President Xi Jinping stressed that this is an age rife with challenges, but it is also an age full of hope. We must get a good grasp of the overarching development trend in the world, firm up confidence, and act in unison and with great motivation to promote global development and foster a development paradigm featuring benefits for all, balance, coordination, inclusiveness, win-win cooperation and common prosperity.
First, we need to jointly build international consensus on promoting development. Only when people all over the world live better lives can prosperity be sustained, security safeguarded and human rights solidly grounded. It is important that we put development front and center on the international agenda, deliver on the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, and build political consensus to ensure everyone values development and all countries pursue cooperation together.
Second, we need to jointly create an enabling international environment for development. Protectionist moves will boomerang; anyone attempting to form exclusive blocs will end up isolating himself; maximum sanctions serve nobody's interest, and practices of decoupling and supply disruption are neither feasible nor sustainable. It is important that we pursue development in real earnest and promote development in concert, build an open world economy, and shape a global governance system and institutional environment that are more just and equitable.
Third, we need to jointly foster new drivers for global development. It is important that we promote scientific, technological and institutional innovation, speed up technology transfer and knowledge sharing, boost the development of modern industries, close the digital divide and accelerate low-carbon transition, with a view to achieving stronger, greener and healthier global development.
Fourth, we need to jointly forge a global development partnership. Only by working together can we accomplish big and great things with a far-reaching impact. Developed countries need to fulfill obligations, developing countries need to deepen cooperation, and the North and the South need to work in the same direction to forge a united, equal, balanced and inclusive global development partnership. In this process, no country or individual should be left behind. It is important that we support the UN in steering and coordinating global development cooperation, and encourage business communities, social groups, the media and think tanks to take part in such cooperation.
President Xi stressed that China has always been a member of the big family of developing countries. China will take pragmatic steps to give continued support to the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.
-China will allocate more resources for global development cooperation. We will upgrade the South-South Cooperation Assistance Fund to a Global Development and South-South Cooperation Fund. We will also increase input to the UN Peace and Development Trust Fund. Such efforts will further support cooperation under the Global Development Initiative (GDI).
-China will work with all sides to advance cooperation in priority areas and mobilize resources for development to deepen global cooperation on poverty reduction and eradication, build capacity for food production and supply, and promote clean energy partnerships; step up innovation, research and development and joint production of vaccines; work on the conservation and sustainable use of land and marine ecology; and raise digital literacy and skills of the public, transform and upgrade the path to industrialization at a faster pace, and enhance connectivity in the digital era to inject new impetus into the development of all countries.
-China will set up a platform for experience and knowledge sharing on international development, a global development promotion center and a global knowledge network for development, for the purpose of exchanging governance experience. We will host a global forum on youth development and take part in the launch of a global action plan on youth development, in a bid to pool as much strength as possible for the implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.
President Xi Jinping pointed out that as an ancient Chinese adage goes, "With one heart and one mind, we can accomplish everything we aspire for." Let us firm up confidence, stride forward in pursuit of high-quality partnership, and usher in a new era of prosperity and development.
Leaders attending the Dialogue delivered remarks respectively. They thanked China for initiating and hosting this High-level Dialogue on Global Development, and commended President Xi's insights into global development cooperation. The cause of international peace and development is now faced with severe challenges. The emerging markets and developing countries are a crucial force in building a more equitable and balanced international order and promoting peace, security, equality and development. They need to strengthen solidarity and cooperation, and work with the international community to put the issue of development front and center and build a better world that meets the needs and expectations of most developing countries. The Dialogue is most opportune and relevant. It helps parties to reach new understandings on international development cooperation, safeguard common interests of developing countries, and inject new impetus into maintaining world peace and promoting common development.
The leaders applauded and supported the GDI and the Global Security Initiative proposed by China. They all agreed that development is the foundation of security and security is the prerequisite for development. They believed that China's initiatives address the concerns and meet the needs of developing countries, and are conducive to forging international consensus, mobilizing development resources and expediting the implementation of the UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. They expressed the hope to step up cooperation in such areas as poverty alleviation, epidemic prevention and control, food security and energy security. They also hoped to create more synergy between the GDI and regional development plans to jointly tackle poverty, inequality and development challenges. Parties raised serious concerns over the negative spillover of unilateral sanctions and the heavy toll they have taken on vulnerable developing countries. Parties stressed the need to practice true multilateralism, defend the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, uphold fairness and justice, and advance reforms of the global governance system. Emerging markets and developing countries need to better coordinate and cooperate, strive for greater representation and voice in international affairs, ensure the sound and steady operation of the international economic and financial system, work for the steady recovery and sustainable development of the world economy, and together forge a united, equal, balanced and inclusive global development partnership.
The Chair's Statement was issued after the Dialogue. It fully outlined the participants' political consensus on global development and proposes measures for practical cooperation in priority areas under the GDI.
Ding Xuexiang, Wang Yi and He Lifeng, among others, attended the Dialogue. ■
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Rao Aimin)
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Xueren)
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Tao)
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Tao)
If Pakistan continues on this path of keeping everyone happy while establishment fills it's coffers... It's good bye from China... No helping someone who can't help themselves... They have been very patient with us... Giving us ample chance and opportunity to fix us... If this is how they show their resentment towards us then Pakistan must learn to fix things at a grass root level... Otherwise we will ultimately collapse.
 
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China Focus: President Xi chairs High-level Dialogue on Global Development, vowing continued support to 2030 Agenda​

Source: Xinhua
Editor: huaxia
2022-06-25 02:42:13
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Xueren)
BEIJING, June 24 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping on Friday chaired the High-level Dialogue on Global Development in Beijing via video link and delivered important remarks.
President Abdelmadjid Tebboune of Algeria, President Alberto Fernandez of Argentina, President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi of Egypt, President Joko Widodo of Indonesia, President Seyyed Ebrahim Raeisi of Iran, President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev of Kazakhstan, President Vladimir Putin of Russia, President Macky Sall of Senegal, President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa, President Shavkat Mirziyoyev of Uzbekistan, Vice President Hamilton Mourao of Brazil, Prime Minister Hun Sen of Cambodia, Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed Ali of Ethiopia, Prime Minister Josaia Voreqe Bainimarama of Fiji, Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India, Prime Minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob of Malaysia, and Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha of Thailand attended the Dialogue.
Focusing on the theme "Foster a Global Development Partnership for the New Era to Jointly Implement the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development", leaders of all countries had in-depth exchange of views on such major issues as strengthening international development cooperation and accelerating the implementation of the UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. They discussed ways to promote development cooperation and reached wide, important common understandings.
President Xi Jinping delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development".
President Xi Jinping pointed out that development is a timeless theme for humanity. Only through continuous development can the people's dream for a better life and social stability be realized. Over the years, developing countries have worked unremittingly to explore development paths suited to their national realities and to pursue economic and social development. Such efforts have produced remarkable outcomes. Today, emerging markets and developing countries account for half of the world economy, and notable progress has been made in science and technology, education, social development, culture and many other areas. We are meeting at a time when the COVID-19 pandemic is eroding decades of gains in global development, the implementation of the UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development is encountering difficulties, the North-South gap keeps widening, and crises are emerging in food and energy security. At the same time, people in all countries are more keen about pursuing peace, development and cooperation, emerging markets and developing countries are more resolved to seek strength through unity, and the new round of scientific and technological revolution and industrial transformation is bringing more opportunities to countries around the world.
President Xi Jinping stressed that this is an age rife with challenges, but it is also an age full of hope. We must get a good grasp of the overarching development trend in the world, firm up confidence, and act in unison and with great motivation to promote global development and foster a development paradigm featuring benefits for all, balance, coordination, inclusiveness, win-win cooperation and common prosperity.
First, we need to jointly build international consensus on promoting development. Only when people all over the world live better lives can prosperity be sustained, security safeguarded and human rights solidly grounded. It is important that we put development front and center on the international agenda, deliver on the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, and build political consensus to ensure everyone values development and all countries pursue cooperation together.
Second, we need to jointly create an enabling international environment for development. Protectionist moves will boomerang; anyone attempting to form exclusive blocs will end up isolating himself; maximum sanctions serve nobody's interest, and practices of decoupling and supply disruption are neither feasible nor sustainable. It is important that we pursue development in real earnest and promote development in concert, build an open world economy, and shape a global governance system and institutional environment that are more just and equitable.
Third, we need to jointly foster new drivers for global development. It is important that we promote scientific, technological and institutional innovation, speed up technology transfer and knowledge sharing, boost the development of modern industries, close the digital divide and accelerate low-carbon transition, with a view to achieving stronger, greener and healthier global development.
Fourth, we need to jointly forge a global development partnership. Only by working together can we accomplish big and great things with a far-reaching impact. Developed countries need to fulfill obligations, developing countries need to deepen cooperation, and the North and the South need to work in the same direction to forge a united, equal, balanced and inclusive global development partnership. In this process, no country or individual should be left behind. It is important that we support the UN in steering and coordinating global development cooperation, and encourage business communities, social groups, the media and think tanks to take part in such cooperation.
President Xi stressed that China has always been a member of the big family of developing countries. China will take pragmatic steps to give continued support to the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.
-China will allocate more resources for global development cooperation. We will upgrade the South-South Cooperation Assistance Fund to a Global Development and South-South Cooperation Fund. We will also increase input to the UN Peace and Development Trust Fund. Such efforts will further support cooperation under the Global Development Initiative (GDI).
-China will work with all sides to advance cooperation in priority areas and mobilize resources for development to deepen global cooperation on poverty reduction and eradication, build capacity for food production and supply, and promote clean energy partnerships; step up innovation, research and development and joint production of vaccines; work on the conservation and sustainable use of land and marine ecology; and raise digital literacy and skills of the public, transform and upgrade the path to industrialization at a faster pace, and enhance connectivity in the digital era to inject new impetus into the development of all countries.
-China will set up a platform for experience and knowledge sharing on international development, a global development promotion center and a global knowledge network for development, for the purpose of exchanging governance experience. We will host a global forum on youth development and take part in the launch of a global action plan on youth development, in a bid to pool as much strength as possible for the implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development.
President Xi Jinping pointed out that as an ancient Chinese adage goes, "With one heart and one mind, we can accomplish everything we aspire for." Let us firm up confidence, stride forward in pursuit of high-quality partnership, and usher in a new era of prosperity and development.
Leaders attending the Dialogue delivered remarks respectively. They thanked China for initiating and hosting this High-level Dialogue on Global Development, and commended President Xi's insights into global development cooperation. The cause of international peace and development is now faced with severe challenges. The emerging markets and developing countries are a crucial force in building a more equitable and balanced international order and promoting peace, security, equality and development. They need to strengthen solidarity and cooperation, and work with the international community to put the issue of development front and center and build a better world that meets the needs and expectations of most developing countries. The Dialogue is most opportune and relevant. It helps parties to reach new understandings on international development cooperation, safeguard common interests of developing countries, and inject new impetus into maintaining world peace and promoting common development.
The leaders applauded and supported the GDI and the Global Security Initiative proposed by China. They all agreed that development is the foundation of security and security is the prerequisite for development. They believed that China's initiatives address the concerns and meet the needs of developing countries, and are conducive to forging international consensus, mobilizing development resources and expediting the implementation of the UN's 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. They expressed the hope to step up cooperation in such areas as poverty alleviation, epidemic prevention and control, food security and energy security. They also hoped to create more synergy between the GDI and regional development plans to jointly tackle poverty, inequality and development challenges. Parties raised serious concerns over the negative spillover of unilateral sanctions and the heavy toll they have taken on vulnerable developing countries. Parties stressed the need to practice true multilateralism, defend the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, uphold fairness and justice, and advance reforms of the global governance system. Emerging markets and developing countries need to better coordinate and cooperate, strive for greater representation and voice in international affairs, ensure the sound and steady operation of the international economic and financial system, work for the steady recovery and sustainable development of the world economy, and together forge a united, equal, balanced and inclusive global development partnership.
The Chair's Statement was issued after the Dialogue. It fully outlined the participants' political consensus on global development and proposes measures for practical cooperation in priority areas under the GDI.
Ding Xuexiang, Wang Yi and He Lifeng, among others, attended the Dialogue. ■
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Rao Aimin)
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Xueren)
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Tao)
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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs the High-level Dialogue on Global Development via video link in Beijing, capital of China, June 24, 2022. Xi delivered an important speech titled "Forging High-quality Partnership for a New Era of Global Development". (Xinhua/Li Tao)

Why would the Chinese invite us when Pakistanis THEMSELVES are doing EVERYTHING to UNDEVELOP Pakistan?......... :lol:...........long live bajwa and the not-so-sharif clan...........:disagree:

PS You know things are bad when Ethiopia is now developing faster than Pakistan. That is a FACT...........:disagree:
 
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In Hinduism there is only one God, you are allowed worship him in any form you want and Wise men call him by different names.just like you are father you your kids, son ro your parents ,husband to your wife etc but it's just you. I know it's difficult for you to comprehend.you have one and still could not have consensus after 1400 years.

Coming to the topic you say it's an imported govt. How?
Some of these people in the current coalition were part of the pti govt. If they withdraw from the previous govt and support the opposition and the opposition formed the govt,you had no problem when the same partners were part of pti govt.its politics, not conspiracy. If you cannot understand simple numbers you are not fit to be in the govt.

When you say you are allowed to worship God in any form then that itself means the whole concept of one God simply doesn't exist and as a result of this flaw you start worshipping someone's reproductive organ or start worshipping random animals that are usually found eating trashing along the roadside. This is what happens when you fool your own self for 5000 thousand years thinking you are worshipping only one God when you clearly aren't. People who are fooling themselves on something as basic as concept of one God for 5000 years straight shouldn't have the gall to criticize others for their differences of 1400 years which are pretty minor in nature

Now coming back to politics. PTI was the largest majority party in the parliament with more than 160 seats of its own. There was a conspiracy against where its members were purchased by opposition using ill-gotten money and thus resulting it in losing its majority. Now buying parliament members is illegal in Pakistani constitution so that makes this current government illegal. Even if we go by numbers then only PTI had the right to rule Pakistan since people of Pakistan voted for them. So even if PTI had lost its majority due to a conspiracy then only legal and ethical way forward was midterm elections and not imposing this current government which was never voted by people of Pakistan


Now you can keep your lecture of patriotism to yourself
 
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From the Pakistan posts above I see the reason why it doesn't get the respect it deserves.

We fight among ourselves on religious, class ,caste etc basis, when when me move out we are Indians and defend it.

Here pti supporters want the current govt fail and bad mouth it for things out of the country,unless you respect yourself no one will respect you. No govt will have 100% support from its people, you don't say anything which will put your country in a bad light infront of others specially when it's related to something out of the country just because you are unhappy or if the party you supports doesn't have the power.
Yeah India does have a pretty good foreign policy that's why we've able to work with a lot of countries including those in active aggression against each other. Plus on the international stage the whole country is pretty much united in stands which matter.
 
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Well said! Dont blame China when its Pakistanis themselves who dont united and screw themselves.

Hey dude, is it possible for China to stop all weapons supply to these corrupt Generals, and maybe send a picture of a middle finger?? Pakistan people will really appreciate it.
 
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When China considered Pakistan a strategic ally by supplying all sorts of weapons and starting the CPEC, only a letter was required for America to change the government. The Chinese now should be concerned whether Pakistan is in the American camp or Chinese. It's surprising that China still sent the J-10 jets to Pakistan.
 
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India should be kicked out BRICS and SCO since it considers China a strategic enemy, shouldn't let India the spoiler hijacking the agendas on both orgs.
That's your personal opinion.

Nation states conduct foreign diplomacy with the aim of furthering self interests. In international forums, its easier to block an entry to an organisation and monumentally difficult to kick one out. To kick a member takes immense political power to do so and have the withdrawal to withstand the aftershocks. Diplomacy is more about talking with those you disagree with, makes sense to focus more on those forums.

So far GoP has been unable to convince other countries of your viewpoint compared to Indian foreign diplomacy successes which have made India presence being welcomed on multiple diverse forums, which are an asset of their own.
 
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In Hinduism there is only one God, you are allowed worship him in any form you want and Wise men call him by different names.just like you are father you your kids, son ro your parents ,husband to your wife etc but it's just you. I know it's difficult for you to comprehend.you have one and still could not have consensus after 1400 years.

Coming to the topic you say it's an imported govt. How?
Some of these people in the current coalition were part of the pti govt. If they withdraw from the previous govt and support the opposition and the opposition formed the govt,you had no problem when the same partners were part of pti govt.its politics, not conspiracy. If you cannot understand simple numbers you are not fit to be in the govt.
Stop lying just to look cool and don't poke nose in something you don't have an iota of knowledge.
 

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Well deserved. This government does not represent Pakistan or it's people. And I hope someone gets rid of neutrals who are responsible for messing up our country like this and installing crooks in gov. I can't believe that I am saying this but our own army is the biggest traitor.
 
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A nation where the leaders are outright gangsters. A nation where people are longing for basic necessities, a nation where some gangs are free to rape, plunder and even murder other groups, a nation where first priority is people's ego and self-interest...

Do you think we even deserved that? Based on the choice of affairs we have in Pakistan, I think India should attack Pakistan, and murder each one of us. Clean this land and rehabilitate this land with better humans and the justice system.

Pakistan will keep begging and licking the ground till we will not change our habits. We will keep asking for loans because our machinery (the politicians and bureaucracy) is here to loot, not work. Only 1% of Pakistan is progressing, and the rest are dying looking at the state of affairs.

We must act now, and after we started functioning, we might never need such summits. At these summits, only the powerful speak, and the weak only listen.
You andhbhakts are driving country fowards civil war by such extreme views and have made even me an IK supporter netral.Stop idolizing india cause thats where i draw a line(thakurvaad,upper caste exploiting lower castes for centuries,their army plundering kashmir and North east by support of black lawS)and our country should be eradicated of your lot.
 
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Not Pakistan, infact it is the imported Govt who has been left out.

China also gave $2.3 billions credit loan due to COAS visit, (DG ISPR) confirmed that soon there will be a good news regarding Chinese credit loan. No such MOU was signed when imported govt send its delegation for the loan.
 
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You andhbhakts are driving country fowards civil war by such extreme views and have made even me an IK supporter netral.Stop idolizing india cause thats where i draw a line(thakurvaad,upper caste exploiting lower castes for centuries,their army plundering kashmir and North east by support of black lawS)and our country should be eradicated of your lot.
This comment is not for you. This is for forum.

Am I an Andhbhakt? Or my views about Pakistan are wrong, when I own family lives there?
 
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Actually you guys have this habit of creating more new gods like the current one from Gujarat and then worshipping the new gods blindly

That isn't the case with us. We can't and don't create new gods hence we can't worship anyone just like you guys. Hence we criticize them and openly bad mouth them since that is what they deserve. This criticism is also part of our love for this country
This is a good point if followed. Indians do create new gods to worship - I've heard of temples for movie stars. But then if that's what gives them peace of mind, why not. After all God is omnipotent and can take any form including the formless one that Proph.Mhd proposed and worshipped, or the trio of Holy father / Son / Holy Ghost that Jesus proposed or a myriad others.

Why go so far? A few mins review of threads in defence.pk reveals how some of you have made IK a God and savior !

Stop acting like you all are on the same page. You guys cannot even decide if their is one god or a trillion one. A lecture on the harm of alcohol coming from someone who baths and consume it is only going to make a mockery out of yourself.

I know this isn't the main thrust if your point but a point of order nevertheless - do "you guys" get to decide one or more gods ? Did you get a vote ? BTW we guys do get to decide whether one or two or two million gods !

Stop acting like you all are on the same page. You guys cannot even decide if their is one god or a trillion one. A lecture on the harm of alcohol coming from someone who baths and consume it is only going to make a mockery out of yourself.

I know this isn't the main thrust if your point but a point of order nevertheless - do "you guys" get to decide one or more gods ? Did you get a vote ? BTW we guys do get to decide whether one or two or two million gods !
 
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