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Pakistan knows it can't win a conventional war with India

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Pakistan has more percentage of rights to JF-17 than even China.

LCA cant even match Mig-21 and you are dreaming about taking on JF-17. Call center bharthis are funny. :lol:

MKI is russian plane, not Bharthi. You cannot sell MKI to other countries, but we can sell JF-17 to any country because it is our plane!

Till now.........

MKI hit two success so far. In MALASIA & ALGERIA.:smokin:
& for JF17. It is famous as junk-fighter.:cry::cry:

So MKI is in lead of 2-0 so far.




Wailt,wail wait......
& also Russain ai force also give the order of 20-30 plane so lead is improved upto 3-0.:wave::wave:

BTW one quetion is jf17 is inducted in PLAAF its 2nd parent-country??:nono::nono:
 
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Does the callcenter IQ tell you that India can export MKI? Are you Bharthis this delusional??

MKI CANNOT BE EXPORTED BY INDIA!! IT IS NOT AN INDIAN PLANE!! YOU DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO EXPORT. I know the truth is hard to swallow. :lol:

First "try" to export bicycles made in your country [if you make any], then talk about exporting Aircrafts [you know the things with wings nd engines] :wave:
 
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First "try" to export bicycles made in your country [if you make any], then talk about exporting Aircrafts [you know the things with wings nd engines] :wave:
Lol...

Don't talk about planes, after 30 years Tejas is still not finished :D
 
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Lol...

Don't talk about planes, after 30 years Tejas is still not finished :D

Even if the world says [proving it so it not possible] that its a failed plane, we have shown that we can make and more importantly fly metal planes in reality [not just in our imagination].
We are not confined to flying only paper planes on planes on paper like one of our neighbors :woot:
 
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Even if the world says [proving it so it not possible] that its a failed plane, we have shown that we can make and more importantly fly metal planes in reality [not just in our imagination].
We are not confined to flying only paper planes on planes on paper like one of our neighbors :woot:

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Here is jf-17 flying


So you can keep crying while Tejas does test flights while PAF is using JF-17 :P
 
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LOL.. Indian MKI and Mirrages were locked by Pakistani F-7, not so long ago and next day all was clam.
then common you are powerfull then india and you have also beaten soviet union, then common invade india ,russia, bangladesh, bla bla bla... and rule the whole world with your super duper unbeatable f 16 and F7 , and mirages.. oh god please save us from pakistan.
 
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Hmmm. If that's how you read it then I hope you have a good health insurance plan because you may need access to mental health specialist
 
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So whats new here ? We already know Pak cannot endure a sustained war.

If Pak makes the first move, It will be a diplomatic victory for India even before full scale war breaks out, military victory will follow a few days after.
There is no military victory to be had unless you want to have a repeat of 1965 with a ceasefire leaving both sides to claim various tactical gains and covering reverses as a victory.

Secondly and very frankly, on the LoC, prior to the relative calm post 2004, both sides instigated across the LoC. Indians have never been angels which they try to make themselves out to be, as they have taken advantage tactically whenever a situation has arisen and the same goes for the Pakistani side. So lets leave aside this "holier than thou" depiction that I see many Indians offering. No such thing in reality despite what you see folks come and express on TV. When the opportunity has presented itself, both sides have taken advantage without any shame, guilt or remorse.

Its the LoC not the border so each side has done things which, if the above standard of "we never cross the LoC" is applied, would lead both sides to be clearly seen as the aggressor. So this notion of some sort of moral superiority is an utter and complete bakvaas that is fed to the Indian public by various Indian writers including former military. The same goes for firing on civilians. Both claim that they only hit military targets, but when the heat is on, civilian or military, both are hit indiscriminately and this is the plain reality of the situation along the LoC.

Secondly, Pakistan being the smaller power already is aware of the fact that we cannot win a war. But for us not losing a war and leaving things at a stalemate is sufficient and that much we are capable of specially given the conventional capabilities in place and then the subsequent rungs of capabilities that are extra-conventional. This has been the case in both of the major wars that we have fought on our direct borders. Pakistan had an extended soft underbelly that could be exploited and India took advantage of it in 1971. Such is no longer the case. For India to launch a war and gain from it, it cannot be a war with a stalemate like 1965 because it does not resolve any of the issues for India. Anything beyond has the risk of crossing the conventional barrier on the Pakistani side (i.e. crossing the red-line). So war simply is not a solution or an option to solve anything and the reality is that with growing capabilities this is becoming more and more of an absolute. The only difference that we will see in the outcome is essentially in the quantum of damage that both sides will do in case of hostilities, yet the outcome or results will be no different than that of the war 1965.

The right approach would be that Kashmiris are talked to, militants reigned in and some CBMs put in place. Peace is hard work, but certainly less work than putting together the country back after having it ravaged by war. Most of the citizens would understand this logic if it is explained to them in such a way. The problem is the ugly and poisonous rhetoric on both sides that is constantly fed to the public on BOTH sides without exception.
 
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