Pakistan issues a stark warning to Trump's Generals on the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan.

[Devil Soul]

Pakistan warns Trump’s generals
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Published: March 6, 2017
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Pakistan’s military has warned Donald Trump’s new generals that they face a ‘total mess’ in Afghanistan unless the US and UK can halt the advance of IS and the Taliban.

In an interview with the Telegraph, a senior Pakistani army source said the collapse in security since the draw-down of Western troops from Afghanistan meant the West now faced ‘losing control’.

If IS and the Taliban continued to gain strength, he added, it could tempt Russia to stage a Syrian-style intervention, this time on the pretext of protecting its ‘backyard’ in Central Asia.

The source within the Pakistani army said that in recent weeks, high-level discussions had taken place with both Resolute Support Mission commander Gen John Nicholson and James Mattis, the retired US general appointed by Mr Trump as Secretary of Defence.

How Trump will shape Pakistan-US ties

Gen Nicholson himself admitted last month that Afghan forces were now in a stalemate against a resurgent Taliban. The Pakistani source said even that was an optimistic assessment.

“A stalemate is still a win for the Taliban,” he said. “We have told Gen Mattis that Afghanistan is slipping out of control, and that if things are not put right, America will have a huge crisis on its hands. “Da’ish is also developing there, and if they leave Syria and Iraq, the next place for them to gather in is Afghanistan.”

Pakistan has criticised the Kabul government for not doing enough to seal its side of the Afghan border, from where Islamabad says militants are now launching attacks on both Pakistani and Afghan soil.

However, Islamabad admits that Kabul is limited by the capabilities of the Afghan National Army.

“There are 350,000 troops in the Afghan army, but only about 20,000 are capable of combat missions,” said the Pakistani military source.

“They also have about 1,000 generals, most of whom are appointed because of their tribal affiliations rather than on merit. The problem is that you can’t teach a donkey to gallop.”

Trump’s Afghan options

The military source added that Russia feared the West was using IS as a “plot to destabilise its backyard”, and could use it as an excuse to extend military operations into Afghanistan.

Last month, Russia held a conference for regional powers on Afghanistan, signalling what could be the opening stages of such a strategy.

The summit, to which the US was not invited, called for dialogue with the Taliban, which Moscow has already started backchannel contacts with. The Kremlin says the Taliban can be used to battle IS.

Washington believes that Kremlin-Taliban contacts are simply to help Moscow build proxy assets in Afghanistan.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 6th, 2017.

 

[sparten]

Bomb Bomb Bomb Afghanistan.

The should just declare their country a bombing range and be done with it.

 

[Perseus]

Pakistan’s military has warned Donald Trump’s new generals that they face a ‘total mess’ in Afghanistan unless the US and UK can halt the advance of IS and the Taliban.

In an interview with the Telegraph, a senior Pakistani army source said the collapse in security since the draw-down of Western troops from Afghanistan meant the West now faced ‘losing control’.

If IS and the Taliban continued to gain strength, he added, it could tempt Russia to stage a Syrian-style intervention, this time on the pretext of protecting its ‘backyard’ in Central Asia.

The source within the Pakistani army said that in recent weeks, high-level discussions had taken place with both Resolute Support Mission commander Gen John Nicholson and James Mattis, the retired US general appointed by Mr Trump as Secretary of Defence.

Gen Nicholson himself admitted last month that Afghan forces were now in a stalemate against a resurgent Taliban. The Pakistani source said even that was an optimistic assessment.

“A stalemate is still a win for the Taliban,” he said. “We have told Gen Mattis that Afghanistan is slipping out of control, and that if things are not put right, America will have a huge crisis on its hands. “Da’ish is also developing there, and if they leave Syria and Iraq, the next place for them to gather in is Afghanistan.”

Pakistan has criticised the Kabul government for not doing enough to seal its side of the Afghan border, from where Islamabad says militants are now launching attacks on both Pakistani and Afghan soil.

However, Islamabad admits that Kabul is limited by the capabilities of the Afghan National Army.

“There are 350,000 troops in the Afghan army, but only about 20,000 are capable of combat missions,” said the Pakistani military source.

“They also have about 1,000 generals, most of whom are appointed because of their tribal affiliations rather than on merit. The problem is that you can’t teach a donkey to gallop.”


The military source added that Russia feared the West was using IS as a “plot to destabilise its backyard”, and could use it as an excuse to extend military operations into Afghanistan.

Last month, Russia held a conference for regional powers on Afghanistan, signalling what could be the opening stages of such a strategy.

The summit, to which the US was not invited, called for dialogue with the Taliban, which Moscow has already started backchannel contacts with. The Kremlin says the Taliban can be used to battle IS.

Washington believes that Kremlin-Taliban contacts are simply to help Moscow build proxy assets in Afghanistan.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 6th, 2017.

Source: https://tribune.com.pk/story/134688...-sort-afghanistan-mess-russia-will-intervene/

 

[Vishvamitra]

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Preparing ground for Russian & Chinese intervention .

 

[ali_raza]

new game is on.
come americans bring some troops here.
oh well u stopped our f16s so we r not with u this time.
lol

 

[Thorough Pro]

Pakistan is being very pragmatic in their analysis and has given a million dollar advice to US of A like in the past, but unfortunately, they never listen and to their own peril.

Pakistan’s military has warned Donald Trump’s new generals that they face a ‘total mess’ in Afghanistan unless the US and UK can halt the advance of IS and the Taliban.

In an interview with the Telegraph, a senior Pakistani army source said the collapse in security since the draw-down of Western troops from Afghanistan meant the West now faced ‘losing control’.

If IS and the Taliban continued to gain strength, he added, it could tempt Russia to stage a Syrian-style intervention, this time on the pretext of protecting its ‘backyard’ in Central Asia.

The source within the Pakistani army said that in recent weeks, high-level discussions had taken place with both Resolute Support Mission commander Gen John Nicholson and James Mattis, the retired US general appointed by Mr Trump as Secretary of Defence.

Gen Nicholson himself admitted last month that Afghan forces were now in a stalemate against a resurgent Taliban. The Pakistani source said even that was an optimistic assessment.

“A stalemate is still a win for the Taliban,” he said. “We have told Gen Mattis that Afghanistan is slipping out of control, and that if things are not put right, America will have a huge crisis on its hands. “Da’ish is also developing there, and if they leave Syria and Iraq, the next place for them to gather in is Afghanistan.”

Pakistan has criticised the Kabul government for not doing enough to seal its side of the Afghan border, from where Islamabad says militants are now launching attacks on both Pakistani and Afghan soil.

However, Islamabad admits that Kabul is limited by the capabilities of the Afghan National Army.

“There are 350,000 troops in the Afghan army, but only about 20,000 are capable of combat missions,” said the Pakistani military source.

“They also have about 1,000 generals, most of whom are appointed because of their tribal affiliations rather than on merit. The problem is that you can’t teach a donkey to gallop.”


The military source added that Russia feared the West was using IS as a “plot to destabilise its backyard”, and could use it as an excuse to extend military operations into Afghanistan.

Last month, Russia held a conference for regional powers on Afghanistan, signalling what could be the opening stages of such a strategy.

The summit, to which the US was not invited, called for dialogue with the Taliban, which Moscow has already started backchannel contacts with. The Kremlin says the Taliban can be used to battle IS.

Washington believes that Kremlin-Taliban contacts are simply to help Moscow build proxy assets in Afghanistan.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 6th, 2017.

Source: https://tribune.com.pk/story/134688...-sort-afghanistan-mess-russia-will-intervene/

 

[unbiasedopinion]

What a bloody irony. The country which attacked you in the past will act as a savior and the country which protected you in the past will be considered as invaders.
Politics is really dramatic sometimes. This is really getting interesting.

 

[simple Brain]

Pakistan warns Trump’s generals
By Newsdesk
Published: March 6, 2017
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Pakistan’s military has warned Donald Trump’s new generals that they face a ‘total mess’ in Afghanistan unless the US and UK can halt the advance of IS and the Taliban.

In an interview with the Telegraph, a senior Pakistani army source said the collapse in security since the draw-down of Western troops from Afghanistan meant the West now faced ‘losing control’.

If IS and the Taliban continued to gain strength, he added, it could tempt Russia to stage a Syrian-style intervention, this time on the pretext of protecting its ‘backyard’ in Central Asia.

The source within the Pakistani army said that in recent weeks, high-level discussions had taken place with both Resolute Support Mission commander Gen John Nicholson and James Mattis, the retired US general appointed by Mr Trump as Secretary of Defence.

How Trump will shape Pakistan-US ties

Gen Nicholson himself admitted last month that Afghan forces were now in a stalemate against a resurgent Taliban. The Pakistani source said even that was an optimistic assessment.

“A stalemate is still a win for the Taliban,” he said. “We have told Gen Mattis that Afghanistan is slipping out of control, and that if things are not put right, America will have a huge crisis on its hands. “Da’ish is also developing there, and if they leave Syria and Iraq, the next place for them to gather in is Afghanistan.”

Pakistan has criticised the Kabul government for not doing enough to seal its side of the Afghan border, from where Islamabad says militants are now launching attacks on both Pakistani and Afghan soil.

However, Islamabad admits that Kabul is limited by the capabilities of the Afghan National Army.

“There are 350,000 troops in the Afghan army, but only about 20,000 are capable of combat missions,” said the Pakistani military source.

“They also have about 1,000 generals, most of whom are appointed because of their tribal affiliations rather than on merit. The problem is that you can’t teach a donkey to gallop.”

Trump’s Afghan options

The military source added that Russia feared the West was using IS as a “plot to destabilise its backyard”, and could use it as an excuse to extend military operations into Afghanistan.

Last month, Russia held a conference for regional powers on Afghanistan, signalling what could be the opening stages of such a strategy.

The summit, to which the US was not invited, called for dialogue with the Taliban, which Moscow has already started backchannel contacts with. The Kremlin says the Taliban can be used to battle IS.

Washington believes that Kremlin-Taliban contacts are simply to help Moscow build proxy assets in Afghanistan.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 6th, 2017.

Now, this is kinda reply for what I was waiting for, for quite a sometime. The reality of Trump Administration is that they want to stay away from any kinda a conflicts, even a small skirmishes around the world that points out the involvement of US military, it will make huge problems for them, the mess that the previous US administrations has had created is now have become a bone in the throat kinda situation for Trump and his administration. They want to stabilize US economy and wants to cut down all the Defense related unnecessary expenses as much as they could. But the problem is that they can't do it straight away, it will take time, hence everyone at this stage is pointing fingers right at Trump's capabilities that he is not a competent person for this kinda job.

I believe if Russia does contain such kinda intentions, US won't resist nor will it place more sanctions on Russia because indirectly Russia will do a huge favor for US. But the chances of Russia's direct intervention once again in Afghanistan are highly doubtful (But Russia sends its special forces inside Afghanistan that can be debatable).

Finally, things will get worse for Kabul in next few months, Political turmoil, unstable economy, sincerity of locals towards Taliban, incompetent, unreliable and corrupt Afghan Army and the border closer from Pakistan's end are all the major factors that I reckon can and will be the major factors that can overthrow Kabul's Government.

 

[nana41]

Bomb Bomb Bomb Afghanistan.

The should just declare their country a bombing range and be done with it.

West has turned Afghanistan into live fire testing ground for newly developed weapon,ammunition and everything war related since the last 37 years.
Pakistan must change its policy and asked for the withdrawl of all the foreign troops,and demand the reconstruction of the country devastated by both U S and Russia.

 

[shahbaz baig]

What is happening in Afghanistan reminds one of the classical Greek tragedies—the intrigues, poetic justice, revenge, bloodshed etc. The situation is complex due to its geostrategic location, terrain, history, and social complexion and of course the availability of huge natural resources yet to be exploited.

According to the official records of the USA, 2,216 American soldiers have died in USA’s 15-year-old war in Afghanistan and more than 20,050 were seriously wounded. Estimates vary but conservative calculation will put the costs of Afghan War anywhere between 4 to 5 trillion US$ of American citizens’ tax money. However, there are no signs of any clear US victory; rather USA is seen to be fighting a losing battle in Afghanistan. And it is losing it for the same reasons it lost in Vietnam, it lost in Iraq and is losing in Syria.

USA now must decide what they want to do—exit, stay or linger. Every option has its own complications and a price to pay. Of course staying for the present, exiting in the short run with honor and leaving behind a lasting peace is the ideal solution but it needs a long term vision backed by serious political commitment. Unfortunately,both are lacking.
In these circumstances, if USA just walks away without leaving any functional government and does not help the incumbents, immediate civil war is imminent which would lead to balkanisation of the state of Afghanistan in at least three parts on ethnic lines. USA therefore should come up with a categorical statement that it will leave Afghanistan only after the conclusion of a comprehensive peace treaty among all the major stakeholders

 

[sparten]

Our foreign policy remains skillful as always. Playing the great powers against each other and against annoyances.

We get to use the Russian Air Force!

 

[Path-Finder]

Russia is slowly edging into afghanistan and there is nothing US can do because afghanistan is under occupation just enough to keep the jesters of kabul propped up and heroin flowing out of afghanistan. Heroin is becoming a huge killer of Russians and it has reached all time high under US NATO occupation to the point it is now replacing Cocaine in the US!
More than Taliban and isis it is heroin in my opinion that is destructive and that will a bigger concern which is not being discussed as publicly as it should be.

Simply put afghanistan is a bigger opium den than a den of terrorism, this is just like when the British were growing opium to put the Chinese on it in the 19th Century.

 

[graphican]

Pakistan can support its favouring fraction in Afghanistan. If USA fails to control terrorism towards Paksitan, pro-Pakistan fractions in Afghanistan can do the job

 

[CHACHA"G"]

First of all on very serious note:
Its hard to see Afghanistan in current situation , I would say again a wonderful and bless peace of Land under most unethical and useless people , Just look at natural resources they have , lol they all can become milliners $$$$ if they just work together , but they wont ...............................
And for Pakistan , I will say what I always said , Send all Afghans back home , Mine + trench the border and then fence it , close it completely , put motion radar + auto MG on border and have 24/7 UCAVs patrolling.

Now funny mood on

“They also have about 1,000 generals, most of whom are appointed because of their tribal affiliations rather than on merit. The problem is that you can’t teach a donkey to gallop.”

I don't think I can say much after this