Pakistan is very important for China

[Lockheed F-16]

Yea right. Where was the China in 1947, 1965,1971,1984,1999 when Pakistan was defeated? What is China doing to help its 'great' friend when the friend is battling for existense?

Sorry but India got defeated, you forgot how M.M. Alam shot all amateurs in ur planes?

 

[IceCold]

Yea right. Where was the China in 1947, 1965,1971,1984,1999 when Pakistan was defeated? What is China doing to help its 'great' friend when the friend is battling for existense?

It seems you are running low on valid arguments these days. Now tell me whether China was there or not, how is it of concern to you or for that matter to any Indian.
Keeping coming up with the same old arguments where was China then or how did it helped Pakistan only makes you look stupid because you know nothing of the Pakistani side so don't claim of something you have no clue about other then of course the details mentioned on your good old BR.
As for the defeat you forget it was your PM that was shouting all over the world to pressurize Pakistan to back off, your pathetic Indian *** was kicked so bad, that it seems the marks are still visible as it is very evident from the way Indians react and keep bringing up the Kargil issue and claiming victory and inducing false sense of pride into the Nation. Now wake up, don't want you to miss your home work.

 

[white_pawn]

Definately Pakistan is very important for China as they have very good economic ties and even china has helped Pakistan to built some of its infrastructure e.g. gadwar port, some of nuclear facilities and etc. As for chine its pakistan help china to have access to central asia for its need to energy.

Even both of them have lots of joint ventures going on. So its like both are important for each other.

 

[Anonyomous Man]

Oh please!!!
do you all really think that China supports Pakistan because we have some sort of brotherly bond or something like that,It's all just a load of crap!!!The only reason China supports us is because we have strategic importance that is all there is Chinese new this from day 1 of Pakistan that is why they reached out to us they still do it for the same reason and so do we they help us we help them pakistan will always be important to China so we can count on them but if you think that it's because of the reason you guys are mentioning then you are all wrong!!

 

[haawk]

forget past ..... see where china was for your imf loan and see who supported you

India-backed IMF's bailout package for Pakistan but...
By: Javed Mahmood | Published: February 16, 2009

It seems unbelievable and unimaginable for Pakistanis but it is on record and fact that India has vehemently supported Pakistan at the meeting of the International Monetary Fund in which the fund approved 7.60 billion dollars bail-out package for this country.
During meeting, held in November 2008 in Washington to review package for Pakistan, India was the first country to support the approval of Stand-by Facility for Pakistan.
After India, the representatives of Indonesia and another country also backed Pakistan’s request for approval of IMF loan programme.
However, the representatives of the most trusted and friendly countries of Pakistan like Saudi Arabia, China and UAE kept their mum and did not bother to utter a single word in favour of Pakistan or the approval of loan.
Finance Ministry officials told this writer that the silence of the representatives of Pakistan’s friendly countries was shocking for the Pakistani team and the participants of the IMF meeting.
“We were expecting some crucial support from Saudi Arabia, China and UAE at the IMF meeting, but their representatives did not speak anything, neither in favour nor against Pakistan,” an official said.
The official of the Ministry of Finance disclosed this when this scribe asked him as to what kind of support the Pakistan government was getting from Saudi Arabia, China and other friendly countries to stabilise the economy and to avert economic crisis.
A few weeks ago the local newspapers and electronic media flashed the statement of a senior Saudi Government official during his visit to Pakistan in which he said Saudi Arabia was ready to provide whatever financial/economic assistance was required by Pakistan.

India-backed IMF's bailout package for Pakistan but... | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

 

[ajpirzada]

Oh please!!!
do you all really think that China supports Pakistan because we have some sort of brotherly bond or something like that,It's all just a load of crap!!!The only reason China supports us is because we have strategic importance that is all there is Chinese new this from day 1 of Pakistan that is why they reached out to us they still do it for the same reason and so do we they help us we help them pakistan will always be important to China so we can count on them but if you think that it's because of the reason you guys are mentioning then you are all wrong!!

now come on man. even US needs pakistan and pakistan needs US. then y are the Pak-US relations so not gud??? it has to do a lot with respect

 

[Anonyomous Man]

now come on man. even US needs pakistan and pakistan needs US. then y are the Pak-US relations so not gud??? it has to do a lot with respect

I never said that Pak-US relations were good Pakistan is strategically important for the war in Afghanistan and alot of other reasons and that is why all the embargoes have been lifted that is why we are not at war with India i mean do you really think that they are afraid of Nuclear weapons??The only reason nukes have only been used once is because at that time only the U.S had them and they new that even if they do drop the load they would see no nuclear response.
Back to topic,Pak-US relations are not good we've just become useful again and that is why they show support and when the war on terror is over it'll be like Pakistan never existed.

 

[ajpirzada]

I never said that Pak-US relations were good Pakistan is strategically important for the war in Afghanistan and alot of other reasons and that is why all the embargoes have been lifted that is why we are not at war with India i mean do you really think that they are afraid of Nuclear weapons??The only reason nukes have only been used once is because at that time only the U.S had them and they new that even if they do drop the load they would see no nuclear response.
Back to topic,Pak-US relations are not good we've just become useful again and that is why they show support and when the war on terror is over it'll be like Pakistan never existed.

so how come pak china relations have always been gud. pakistan have gone through some really rough times and china could have easily dumped us. but they didnt. the only reason y ppl cant see respect is bec it doesnt come in packaging and neither can it be transferred to our bank accounts

 

[Lockheed F-16]

I Was being SARCASTIC!!!!!!!!!!

"Sarcastic posts
We do not allow people to post sarcastic post at all. They are a very pathetic way in the end to back things up. They will be deleted on sight."

I also thought that u r being serious, China in fact is a brother like for us and we need them and they need us. It is a genuine friendship.

 

[Neo]

forget past ..... see where china was for your imf loan and see who supported you

China has helped us where it counts, FDI and ToT in several fields. For bail outs there were other options and we can not expect China to always decide in our favor. China had a whole lot of countries lined up for bail out, giving into Pakistan would have made things worse for them in Africa and other area's.

For your information, China did lobby for loans granted by ADB, IMF and FoP groups.
We might aswell say no to the third tranch worth of $4.1 billion of IMF loan because FoP have pledged for more than we expected.

India-backed IMF's bailout package for Pakistan but...
By: Javed Mahmood | Published: February 16, 2009

Who cares if India backed up or not, this is merely a political vote with no conclusive powers.

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

forget past ..... see where china was for your imf loan and see who supported you

India-backed IMF's bailout package for Pakistan but...
By: Javed Mahmood | Published: February 16, 2009

It seems unbelievable and unimaginable for Pakistanis but it is on record and fact that India has vehemently supported Pakistan at the meeting of the International Monetary Fund in which the fund approved 7.60 billion dollars bail-out package for this country.
During meeting, held in November 2008 in Washington to review package for Pakistan, India was the first country to support the approval of Stand-by Facility for Pakistan.
After India, the representatives of Indonesia and another country also backed Pakistan’s request for approval of IMF loan programme.
However, the representatives of the most trusted and friendly countries of Pakistan like Saudi Arabia, China and UAE kept their mum and did not bother to utter a single word in favour of Pakistan or the approval of loan.
Finance Ministry officials told this writer that the silence of the representatives of Pakistan’s friendly countries was shocking for the Pakistani team and the participants of the IMF meeting.
“We were expecting some crucial support from Saudi Arabia, China and UAE at the IMF meeting, but their representatives did not speak anything, neither in favour nor against Pakistan,” an official said.
The official of the Ministry of Finance disclosed this when this scribe asked him as to what kind of support the Pakistan government was getting from Saudi Arabia, China and other friendly countries to stabilise the economy and to avert economic crisis.
A few weeks ago the local newspapers and electronic media flashed the statement of a senior Saudi Government official during his visit to Pakistan in which he said Saudi Arabia was ready to provide whatever financial/economic assistance was required by Pakistan.

India-backed IMF's bailout package for Pakistan but... | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

I don't know why China offers money to IMF, IMF subsidizes many anti-China American minion states like India, Poland, Lativa, Estonia, Lithuania (all support Tibetan independence ) .

Such American minion states (India, Poland, Lativa, Estonia, Lithuania) only thank to USA but not China.

 

[Anonyomous Man]

so how come pak china relations have always been gud. pakistan have gone through some really rough times and china could have easily dumped us. but they didnt. the only reason y ppl cant see respect is bec it doesnt come in packaging and neither can it be transferred to our bank accounts

The only reason why the Chinese have not dumped us is beacause we will always be important to them unlike the U.S who help us when they need us and dump us when we are not of use to them.

Anyways this alliance is one we can all count on i'm just saying that we should'nt get too comfortable with China.

 

[nik007]

Oh please!!!
do you all really think that China supports Pakistan because we have some sort of brotherly bond or something like that,It's all just a load of crap!!!The only reason China supports us is because we have strategic importance that is all there is Chinese new this from day 1 of Pakistan that is why they reached out to us they still do it for the same reason and so do we they help us we help them pakistan will always be important to China so we can count on them but if you think that it's because of the reason you guys are mentioning then you are all wrong!!

EXACTLY. 100% correct. I must also add that China uses pak to pre-occupy India the same way it uses North Korea for Japan.
(I forgot the source)

As for the defeat you forget it was your PM that was shouting all over the world to pressurize Pakistan to back off, your pathetic Indian *** was kicked so bad, that it seems the marks are still visible as it is very evident from the way Indians react and keep bringing up the Kargil issue and claiming victory and inducing false sense of pride into the Nation. Now wake up, don't want you to miss your home work.

That is not true. It is Pakistan that got defeated in 65 war.

The Pakistan Army From 1965 to 1971 pak
source

Indo-Pakistan War of 1965

65 war Pak's mistake: Ex Pak air chief

Gulfnews: Army attemps to prevent book sales

Pakistan (03/09)

 

[sadiqams]

yes indeed

 

[brahmastra]

well..............PAKISTAN - CHINA relations were not strong at that time!
I can guarantee you that if india ever invades PAKISTAN again CHINA & PAKISTAN will fight together!
india is already surrounded by 2 nuclear powers and 3 other allies of ours,u wont stand a chance!

who r 3 other allies that can help you in war?
would like to know the name.