Pakistan Is Changing

[jetti]

the real change will be when the army stops its hatecampaign against india and stops sending trror. that will eb the time when pak will actually start to progress

 

[eik_pagall]

Really?
every year electric short fall gradually increasing. (Change?)
Burning tires on highways and roads (Change?)
Industry is dieing (Change?)
Economy dieing (Change?)
Target killings increasing day by day (Change?)
Suicide attacks and IED attacks (Change?)
Same old corrupt politicians and bureaucrats (change?)
We r going towards stone age (Change?)
Can v lie to our self?

 

[K-Xeroid]

Really?
every year electric short fall gradually increasing.(Change?)

Reason : Only becuz of absence of political will, Mis managements , Appointments aren't happening on the basis of merits, corruption etc.

Burning tires on highways and roads (Change?)

Again its due Mis management and cruption etc.

Industry is dieing (Change?)

Absolutly agreed with you.

Economy dieing (Change?)

Again same reasons cruption etc etc

Target killings increasing day by day (Change?)
Suicide attacks and IED attacks (Change?)
Same old corrupt politicians and bureaucrats (change?)
We r going towards stone age (Change?)
Can v lie to our self?

Even our all instutions are Crupt.
We are still moving in reverse direction.

 

[Baby Leone]

the real change will be when the army stops its hatecampaign against india and stops sending trror. that will eb the time when pak will actually start to progress

soo, indian troll start bullshitting..

teach this to ur hindu terrorists of RSS modi etc, so tht indian can progress well, we dont need ur advice.

 

[SQ8]

the real change will be when the army stops its hatecampaign against india and stops sending trror. that will eb the time when pak will actually start to progress

The army could hold flowers and sing "Yeh dosti ham nahin chorhein ge" , and people like you would still hate us..
so save us the "if and then" condition.

 

[Jango]

The army could hold flowers and sing "Yeh dosti ham nahin chorhein ge" , and people like you would still hate us..

 

[Contrarian]

The army could hold flowers and sing "Yeh dosti ham nahin chorhein ge" , and people like you would still hate us..
so save us the "if and then" condition.

Allow me to digress..what you said is not true.

Is it a lie that over decades Pakistani army has deliberately fashioned itself to domestic public as a religious force. has it not tried to project itself as fighting a religious war against a Hindu India? I can post photographs of PA putting out an. ad in the newspapers to donate money to PA for "jehad"during 65 war.

Has the Pakistani public not been lied to in their history regarding the wars with India? Fact of the matter is that they have made India into a religious enemy just to ensure their continuity in power. with the likes of Zia Islamizing Pakistan.

The bad part was the Pakistani public bought into it hook line and sinker. those who were sceptical were won over by the Islam card. PA was a force that could do no wrong and questioning PA meant that you were not patriotic.

This is related to the topic at hand in a very simple way..the public does indeed question the army. it is no longer the holy cow of Pakistan. People ask and they assert. They do say open trade and reduce enmity.
Ofcourse that is just one aspect and example of people asserting and questioning the establishment. the people are getting empowered...they are questioning the old ways..and that is indeed a change.

 

[clmeta]

Totally agree with you. Infact some people argue if India resolves Kashmir, the all India feelings will end in Pakistan.
This is pure nonsense.
Pakistanis are fed with stupid and funny stories like Ghazwa e Hind.
If the establishment needs to cultivate jihadis it can use 100 kinds of prapaganda.
Solving Kashmir is not even related to militancy from Pakistan.

Allow me to digress..what you said is not true.

Is it a lie that over decades Pakistani army has deliberately fashioned itself to domestic public as a religious force. has it not tried to project itself as fighting a religious war against a Hindu India? I can post photographs of PA putting out an. ad in the newspapers to donate money to PA for "jehad"during 65 war.

Has the Pakistani public not been lied to in their history regarding the wars with India? Fact of the matter is that they have made India into a religious enemy just to ensure their continuity in power. with the likes of Zia Islamizing Pakistan.

The bad part was the Pakistani public bought into it hook line and sinker. those who were sceptical were won over by the Islam card. PA was a force that could do no wrong and questioning PA meant that you were not patriotic.

This is related to the topic at hand in a very simple way..the public does indeed question the army. it is no longer the holy cow of Pakistan. People ask and they assert. They do say open trade and reduce enmity.
Ofcourse that is just one aspect and example of people asserting and questioning the establishment. the people are getting empowered...they are questioning the old ways..and that is indeed a change.

 

[K-Xeroid]

Allow me to digress..what you said is not true.

Is it a lie that over decades Pakistani army has deliberately fashioned itself to domestic public as a religious force. has it not tried to project itself as fighting a religious war against a Hindu India? I can post photographs of PA putting out an. ad in the newspapers to donate money to PA for "jehad"during 65 war.

Has the Pakistani public not been lied to in their history regarding the wars with India? Fact of the matter is that they have made India into a religious enemy just to ensure their continuity in power. with the likes of Zia Islamizing Pakistan.

The bad part was the Pakistani public bought into it hook line and sinker. those who were sceptical were won over by the Islam card. PA was a force that could do no wrong and questioning PA meant that you were not patriotic.

This is related to the topic at hand in a very simple way..the public does indeed question the army. it is no longer the holy cow of Pakistan. People ask and they assert. They do say open trade and reduce enmity.
Ofcourse that is just one aspect and example of people asserting and questioning the establishment. the people are getting empowered...they are questioning the old ways..and that is indeed a change.

Depends on the way of thinking, You're an indian thats why you take it as your own way, Most of the time Army have performed well their duties as compare to other institutions, thats why most part of our public, specially literate sector consider them better then our all institutions. Today , our all problems are related with our own failures, and when it comes to stance over india then I don't see anything wrong in it. ,So mate ! don't bring india in it cuz just india alone isn't our problem. We've some other challenges to deal with.

 

[Contrarian]

I did say that the India related part was but ONE example where people have started questioning and asserting over the established norm. There would be a 100 different such places as well.