Pakistan increases military budget to 130 billion rupees

[Mani2020]

Without meaning to be rude or hurting my Pakistani brothers and sisters I hope my take on this is taken in a positive manner. I feel that Pakistan military is eating up this country! We don't need F-16s, Cobras and Atom bombs. If only we spent half the money that we spend on our military, say on education and healthcare; We wdnt be in the sort of mess we are in today!! They have radicalised a whole generation, literally crippled the whole system either by colluding with the corrupt politicians indirectly or by direct control of the state. The English gave us independence and since then military has enslaved us! Every country has an army and Pakistani army is perhaps one of the only armies in the world that has a whole country at its disposal! Use it as you will, If you don't do what army wants, then you are done! But my voice I know will not be materialised and it will carry on like this .. like it always has.. Buy more fighter jets, more military equipment, make more atom bombs, perhaps get a few more cobras, increase the pay roll of our beloved army.. but where will it stop?! or will it ever?! I hope not when there is nothing more left....

And people please don't get me wrong. I love my country and two of my brothers are serving the armed forces of this great country and therefore it hurts me even more... I hope we realise before its too late!

if we wouldnot be spending too much on military and wouldnot b acquiring f-16s and stuff thn today Pakistan may not havebeen on the map of the world either captured by india or mesmarized by US lyk they did in afghanistan and Iraq and if not by inida or US thn surely by Israel

so thn where would your so called infrastructure will go.......you n your childs will b killed by Israeli missiles and bombs lyk wat they are doing in Plaestine, or the slaughter of your family as done in Makbooza Kashmir?

Dun you see the little childs of 2-3 years being hit by missiles so mercilessly? what would happen if they were your childs?

dun come with idiotic facts by listening to some biased people use ur own brain n thnk

n by the way arms n such thngs are in our religon

In various Ayats of Quran Pak u will find the importance of Jihad and the order of getting/being prepared for Jihad

if u are not satisfied with it i can post AYAT with urdu translation and also the AHADITH

 

[pak-yes]

Well i hope they will use this budget wisely, instead of wasting it on messes, housing societies, pools of latest cars which eventually wind up in the hands of some spoiled brats and showing off these daddy's office cars running on fuel which should be saved, if sufficient enough, not to to mention plasma screens, expensive cell phones, foreign tours, its a public forum so i can't really disclose how much a single bullet values for an Army like Pakistan Army but it is a lot cheaper than the cost of the luxuries for the Untouchables oh well all we can do is hope for the best

Everyone in our Country is Corrupt.And as Army is also made up of humans so they can also indulge in these types of Activities.

So Unless and Until we can make Army accountable for it's Expenditures and Have a regular Audit there is no way of Knowing Where will our Tax Money go.

 

[Parashuram1]

This is not our war...We are fighting a war which is created by US there were no such groups before US attacked Afghanistan or if they were thn atleats they didnt harm our terriotory or public...US delibrately pushed us in this war and result is we have lost alot in the form of

Our army personnel
Our local public
A large number of infrastuructre
and our economy which at one stage was growing at 8.5 % and KSE won the best performing asian market award

but now look where we stand

This is not our war...We are fighting a war which is created by US there were no such groups before US attacked Afghanistan or if they were thn atleats they didnt harm our terriotory or public...US delibrately pushed us in this war and result is we have lost alot in the form of

You had all the right to curse USA IF you had chosen not to participate in the Afghan war and support the Mujahideen on USA's behalf. However, your tilt in the US side and AWAY from neutrality resulted in you being tied with the United States' policies which automatically forced your government to either agree with USA after 9/11 or become a target for the Pentagon for supporting hardened militants.

Please don't say it was in your neighbourhood and therefore you had to participate. If you had remained neutral, Soviet Union won't have bothered doing anything about you and you could have conveniently stayed away from the entire battle, leaving it between USSR and USA.

However, that one mis-step by your government is the reason why today this war has become your war as well, just as it has become a war for the entire world community against militancy and radicalism. The atrocious beheading of minorities in your country recently was despicable and for that, Taliban deserves no mercy at the hands of either your citizens or anyone around the world.

Therefore, you should point the finger at your government the same way as you point fingers at NATO and United States.

Now Taliban continues to attack your country in the forms of different sub-outfits and then challenges your military isn't it? So now that your people's safety is compromised, you are officially at war.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

You had all the right to curse USA IF you had chosen not to participate in the Afghan war and support the Mujahideen on USA's behalf. However, your tilt in the US side and AWAY from neutrality resulted in you being tied with the United States' policies which automatically forced your government to either agree with USA after 9/11 or become a target for the Pentagon for supporting hardened militants.

Please don't say it was in your neighbourhood and therefore you had to participate. If you had remained neutral, Soviet Union won't have bothered doing anything about you and you could have conveniently stayed away from the entire battle, leaving it between USSR and USA.

However, that one mis-step by your government is the reason why today this war has become your war as well, just as it has become a war for the entire world community against militancy and radicalism. The atrocious beheading of minorities in your country recently was despicable and for that, Taliban deserves no mercy at the hands of either your citizens or anyone around the world.

Therefore, you should point the finger at your government the same way as you point fingers at NATO and United States.

Now Taliban continues to attack your country in the forms of different sub-outfits and then challenges your military isn't it? So now that your people's safety is compromised, you are officially at war.

Agree with you 100%. It is very childish on our part to put the blame of all the ills of Pakistan on others. The fact is otherwise--Pakistan was the one which dragged US to this part of the world (that is another debate on how long US would have stayed out of the conflict if we would have not dragged them in.) This has been corroborated by our ex ISI chief Gen. Hameed Gul and others!

We created Talibans when US State and Commerce Departments wanted us to facillitate Unocal on builiding a pipeline out of Central Asia through warlord infected Afghanistan.

We are still using these Talibs as counterblanace and negotiating pawns to ensure lasting foothold in Afghanistan. It is not wrong for a country to project its strategic interests in its neighbouhood but than one should know how play with fire and ways to control it. Sadly, we lack a strategic national visison (Our stategic vision is made in ISI HQ) without a national consensus.

We need to grow up!

 

[Parashuram1]

Agree with you 100%. It is very childish on our part to put the blame of all the ills of Pakistan on others. The fact is otherwise--Pakistan was the one which dragged US to this part of the world (that is another debate on how long US would have stayed out of the conflict if we would have not dragged them in.) This has been corroborated by our ex ISI chief Gen. Hameed Gul and others!

This is the first step to make your country prosperous. I expected some senseless attack but it gladdens me to see that there are very far-sighted Pakistanis like you who have realized the reason behind their mess and want to improve and develop into a prosperous, liberal and democratic country. Aligning yourself with one single source of world power was a very big mistake on behalf of your previous governments and that exactly is the cause of all of today's worries for Islamabad. Still it isn't too late to change and improve.

We created Talibans when US State and Commerce Departments wanted us to facillitate Unocal on builiding a pipeline out of Central Asia through warlord infected Afghanistan.

I don't think the Pakistani citizens even knew what their government was upto and are completely innocent. However, today because of your intelligence community's one single mistake, these innocent civilians are dying in rampant terror attacks. Innocent students, young children, women, disabled, senior citizens.. what was their fault that they are seeing this? This question should be demanded by your people to your government. It is their right to know.

We are still using these Talibs as counterblanace and negotiating pawns to ensure lasting foothold in Afghanistan. It is not wrong for a country to project its strategic interests in its neighbouhood but than one should know how play with fire and ways to control it. Sadly, we lack a strategic national visison (Our stategic vision is made in ISI HQ) without a national consensus.

The thing is, Pakistan is a developing country with limited economy, poor rate of development and limited resources; these are not exactly the parameters that fit a country wanting to have a foreign base or a stronghold over another country. Unfortunately, your government in earlier days did not consider economic liberalization unlike your larger neighbour India and your political friend China. Both these countries went ahead with China leading Asia in rapid economic growth while your government didn't take similar steps.

This resulted in poor economic development, breeding ground for commercial and domestic level corruption, etc therefore inhibiting your potential to hold another country into your sphere of influence just with diplomacy. Taliban's foothold in Afghanistan today is the reason why Kabul isn't very fond of your country despite being neighbours.

But if people like you decide to take charge and work towards changing this regressive trend, I am sure that Pakistan could regain its growth potential and emerge as one of the growing economies in the world.

 

[faisalwali786]

US F-16s served their purpose against Russians as well as against Indians and Israeli Threat but US never honored our friendship; efforts against Russians in Afghanistan - one of the main reason of collapse of USSR. I don't know how and by which formula they eye Indians as their potential allies when they never contributed to US interests uptill now. I don't remember single Indian dying for US interests while all my years of childhood and to this age I have read almost every other day some Pakistani dying along or for their war against Russians/Taliban. We never make our own decisions. Afghanistan is not our Muslim brother Country . They ruined our economy to dust just like those of Russians. We are holding together because we are an ideological state.Economically we would have disintegrated like USSR. We should take our own decision. We are Super Power and we should have invaded Afghanistan ( not considering them a Muslim State) just like US before US and created a Govt. of our interests. It would have bought much more stability in this region from Pakistan to Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan.But Alas, we kept inviting US for Afghanistan and cried for help again and again and missed the narrow window period when USSR left Afghanistan and US invaded Afghanistan.

God Bless Pakistan.

Love Pakistan more than myself

 

[Arsalan]

i hope Pak Gov gives a fair share to navy!! we need atleast four to five subs plus four to six new heavier frigates!!

regards!

 

[ambidex]

I think Money was already allocated to for the production, R&D et al of JF 17 so this budget can be used for rest of the procurements etc excluding JF17. Not bad.............

 

[RameeX Xaved]

great! Pakistan has lost 50 billion dollar in this WAR OF AMERICA, 10 thousand civilians, even more soldiers and now we are increasing our budget for more operations to set more deaths??
this war has done nothing but ruined us..created a chaos and turmoil in our country and has given ample amount of space to our enemies Israel, India, US to work in Pakistan to denuclearise Pakistan and snatch its Islamic identity. no one here needs to about blackwater, CIA, RAW, MOOSAD..
and to everyone who keeps telling us how bad the talibans, listen we dont need you guys to lecture us what is good for us and what is bad for us. we have already paid the price of being 'allied' with US and we have paid a heavy price..we know who is a threat to our existence..

 

[AVIAN]

US F-16s served their purpose against Russians as well as against Indians and Israeli Threat but US never honored our friendship; efforts against Russians in Afghanistan - one of the main reason of collapse of USSR. I don't know how and by which formula they eye Indians as their potential allies when they never contributed to US interests uptill now. I don't remember single Indian dying for US interests while all my years of childhood and to this age I have read almost every other day some Pakistani dying along or for their war against Russians/Taliban. We never make our own decisions. Afghanistan is not our Muslim brother Country . They ruined our economy to dust just like those of Russians. We are holding together because we are an ideological state.Economically we would have disintegrated like USSR. We should take our own decision. We are Super Power and we should have invaded Afghanistan ( not considering them a Muslim State) just like US before US and created a Govt. of our interests. It would have bought much more stability in this region from Pakistan to Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan.But Alas, we kept inviting US for Afghanistan and cried for help again and again and missed the narrow window period when USSR left Afghanistan and US invaded Afghanistan.

God Bless Pakistan.

Love Pakistan more than myself

This is exactly the crux of the matter which every Pakistani need to understand. Since Pakistani ruler themselves made Pakistan to depend upon other in order to pursue their anti-indian agenda in which they failed very badly despite repeated effort at the cost of degrowth in Economy and social unrest. Pakistan itself is responsible for the state through which it is going through and there is no point in blaming others.

 

[Iggy]

Can any one tell me how much money is allocated to Army,Navy and Airforce respectively?

@jana whats up with Bharatiyas??its Bharat ..are you little grown up to stoop down to name calling like this??

@Mods Is it allowed to insult countries by calling name like Bharati etc??

 

[RameeX Xaved]

This is exactly the crux of the matter which every Pakistani need to understand. Since Pakistani ruler themselves made Pakistan to depend upon other in order to pursue their anti-indian agenda in which they failed very badly despite repeated effort at the cost of degrowth in Economy and social unrest. Pakistan itself is responsible for the state through which it is going through and there is no point in blaming others.

And why do we need to understand what one of the indians is saying who themselves claim to finish pakistan in a matter of 2 days? who is pursuing the anti-pakistani sentiments now? who's army general is dreaming about a possible nuclear war started by india..? look who's lecturing us!!
pathetic hypocrites!

 

[Vasily Zaytsev]

can any one from Pakistan shed some light on how this defence budget is spent

what i specifically wanted to know is what happens when some of the defense budget remains unspent in a year?

whether it is returned back to the government? how the unspent amount is accounted for?

 

[ice_man]

Agree with you 100%. It is very childish on our part to put the blame of all the ills of Pakistan on others. The fact is otherwise--Pakistan was the one which dragged US to this part of the world (that is another debate on how long US would have stayed out of the conflict if we would have not dragged them in.) This has been corroborated by our ex ISI chief Gen. Hameed Gul and others!

We created Talibans when US State and Commerce Departments wanted us to facillitate Unocal on builiding a pipeline out of Central Asia through warlord infected Afghanistan.

We are still using these Talibs as counterblanace and negotiating pawns to ensure lasting foothold in Afghanistan. It is not wrong for a country to project its strategic interests in its neighbouhood but than one should know how play with fire and ways to control it. Sadly, we lack a strategic national visison (Our stategic vision is made in ISI HQ) without a national consensus.

We need to grow up!

spoken like a TRUE INDIAN! shows how little you know about the inside workings of PAKISTAN!!!

 

[Aamir Hussain]

spoken like a TRUE INDIAN! shows how little you know about the inside workings of PAKISTAN!!!

If some of us are sane enough and do not believe on the lies that you love to live by -- suddenly, in your eyes, those saner elements become Indians! Grow up my friend this not the school play yard where you get childish joy by calling names!!!!!!

Learn to live with differentiating views -- that is the hallmark of mature human being and nations -- and not start labeling others as "Indians," "Kafirs," etc.

What I have written on the Afghan War is true -- it has been debated upon in the book "Taliban" and the later work "Descent into Chaos." However, if you care for a trashy source than you must watch the "Mere Mutabiq" show on GEO last week where Gen Hameed Gul (ISI fame) himself clearly spelt it out how we engaged Haqqani, Hykmatyar, and Ahmed Shah Masood three years before the Soviet invasion and manipulated some key Americans in the US senate to back us in the war which we were already fighting way before the Americans came.

In the end, a word of advice--try to read some good Pakistani sources on the major events in the history of our country ("Crossed Swords" is another good one) and also some foreign works. The truth lies somewhere in the middle my friend!!!