Pakistan has to accept India as big brother

[vsdoc]

What is this? American Idol?

You watch American Idol?

hmmmmmmmm ..... figures.

Cheers, Doc

 

[lamayuru]

resisted 'internationalizing'

Give me reason, not rhetoric. I dont speak for India. The GoI does not give a f about what I think.

Given that bg, are not the billion+ in India & Pakistan, and the diaspora of India and Pakistan all stake holders in K? For that matter even PIOs and PPOs. Democracy is the best way forward. Let's vote in solutions to all our 'intractable' problems.

BTW, out of all the things I have proposed, you are still hung on K? The world is a lot bigger than that but clearly you cant see it that way, because that would be belittling your patriotism.

 

[Developereo]

You watch American Idol?

hmmmmmmmm ..... figures.

Cheers, Doc

Nah. I just find it ironic that all those poor contestants go through weeks of grueling work and verbal abuse to try and win the title -- and then some schmuck with no talent, no voice, nothing but a bunch of scantily clad girls in a video ends up selling millions of albums.

"Put your hands up for detroit."

Give me reason, not rhetoric. I dont speak for India. The GoI does not give a f about what I think.

I am giving you a reality check. The Indian government and jingoistic media will never let this happen. Better you hear it from me.

Democracy is the best way forward. Let's vote in solutions to all our 'intractable' problems.

Nice to see that you finally agree with Pakistan's position on this matter. Now if you can just convince your government, all would be super!

BTW, out of all the things I have proposed, you are still hung on K? The world is a lot bigger than that but clearly you cant see it that way, because that would be belittling your patriotism.

No, I just noticed that bit about international TV. Your post was addressed to AM, and I will let him respond.

 

[Developereo]

Honestly don't see what the big fuss is. Most of India's neighbors already see it as the big bully.

 

[vsdoc]

Nah. I just find it ironic that all those poor contestants go through weeks of grueling work and verbal abuse to try and win the title -- and then some schmuck with no talent, no voice, nothing but a bunch of scantily clad girls in a video ends up selling millions of albums.

"Put your hands up for detroit."

So you do watch American Idol

Don't diss scantily clad girls mate ...... they make the world go around (well ..... the corrupt non-Islamic one at least).

Cheers, Doc

 

[gogbot]

pakistan is pakistan and india is india we have some things better then US UK bro .

well said, we should create our own destiny and not live in the shadow of others

 

[Developereo]

So you do watch American Idol

No, the only reality TV show I watch is the Apprentice, US and UK versions. They are trying to get an Australian version going. Will see if it's any good.

 

[lamayuru]

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gibberish.. you are completely out of sync with the intent of my post..

 

[Developereo]

gibberish.. you are completely out of sync with the intent of my post..

Don't be upset because you inadvertantly admitted that the real solution to Kashmir is the one advocated all along by Pakistan, the UN and the Kashmiris themselves: democratic resolution.

It's never too late for wisdom.

Fulfill Your Destiny and Leave the Dark Side Behind

 

[blueoval79]

Asia is changing rapidly and change is coming from several different directions. With the exception of China, it is the exercise of democracy through elections that is producing the change. China is on the fast track to become the world’s most prominent economy.

India is also making rapid economic advances but the most important development in its case is the clear signal sent by the electorate in this year’s elections. The voters were unambiguous in their message: they would not tolerate extremism of any variety, and certainly not one that would allow Hinduism to become the dominant force.

The development of the Indian political system has also influenced the countries on its periphery. Pakistan, after being dominated for years by the military, has turned the corner and is now engaged in developing a political structure in which the will of the people will prevail. Bangladesh is moving in the same direction. It has also discarded strongman rule in favour of a system based on people’s representation. Sri Lanka continues to follow a broadly representative system but has still to come to terms fully with minority rights.

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[lamayuru]

democratic resolution

Batter! You got that right. It was not inadvertent, I have believed in democracy all along. I have also said it must involve ALL stake holders. That is every Indian , every Pakistani. I have been bold enough to propose even PIOs & PPOs be brought into the ambit of this poll. OK.

Now do the math. One wo/man One vote. Human Equality.

Where is AM anyway? What are you, his wingman?

 

[Developereo]

Batter! You got that right. It was not inadvertent, I have believed in democracy all along. I have also said it must involve ALL stake holders. That is every Indian , every Pakistani.

The only stakeholders are the Kashmiris. I would accept inclusion of Azad Kashmir and Chinese Kashmir along with J&K, but that's it.

When Quebec held its referendum, it didn't involve all of Canada. Only the quebequois.

 

[lamayuru]

stakeholders

The only stakeholders are every1 whose a$$ is on the line. Clinton has famously said K is the most dangerous nuclear flashpoint on this planet. Couple that with your behavior on the LoC (Ceasefire violations to send in funduz) & you have a state that is banking on perhaps too much leverage from their ghauri and ghaznis.

In the event of a nuclear catastrophe, which is what will eventually happen if you keep testing our patience. I mean you are looking at roast meat in radioactive heat. Everyone who has even a remote chance to this fate is very much party to this vote.

 

[Developereo]

The only stakeholders are every1 whose a$$ is on the line. Clinton has famously said K is the most dangerous nuclear flashpoint on this planet. Couple that with your behavior on the LoC (Ceasefire violations to send in funduz) & you have a state that is banking on perhaps too much leverage from their ghauri and ghaznis.

In the event of a nuclear catastrophe, which is what will eventually happen if you keep testing our patience. I mean you are looking at roast meat in radioactive heat. Everyone who has even a remote chance to this fate is very much party to this vote.

Irrelevant.

According to your logic, the entire world should vote in the American and Russian elections because a war between them would annihilate the globe.

 

[lamayuru]

Irrelevant..

If you want a global vote on K, you have my vote in the affirmative to your proposal. Lets go for it. Infact what you have proposed is the most balanced way to look at this conflict. Now before you shoot it down with any other localised example, you must see that at a very inefficient level this is already happening. You elect AAZ, I elect MMS and they sort K out. A more efficient way is to involve ALL stakeholders as I said before, the part you are not reconciled to, for reasons that are beyond me.