'Pakistan has one of the biggest talent pools for MMA in the world'

[Samurai_assassin]

Because of malnourishment... look at the South Koreans and North Koreans...

South Koreans are much later their their northern counterparts...

Look at the Chinese ...

Yes it does play a role but not that much.. Specially when it comes to us...

If Paks national average today is 5"8 and we have lost 4 inches in 5 decades .. Calculate what would have been our average 50 years back? 6ft



And South Asia somehow is a single entity as per you? And those ethnic groups make what? 15% of the region if you include Afghanistan (whose population share ethnic groups with Pak).

Also Balochistan is actually part of the Iranian plateau.

 

[TMA]

Because of malnourishment... look at the South Koreans and North Koreans...

South Koreans are much later their their northern counterparts...

Look at the Chinese ...

Yes it does play a role but not that much.. Specially when it comes to us...

If Paks national average today is 5"8 and we have lost 4 inches in 5 decades .. Calculate what would have been our average 50 years back? 6ft



And South Asia somehow is a single entity as per you?

Also Balochistan is actually part of the Iranian plateau.

Why not concentrate on improving genes AND nutrition?

 

[Samurai_assassin]

The vast soldiers came from Punjab and were Muslims.

Yes you need a geography lesson. These are political constructs. Middle East is Asia. Herodtus's used Asia to describe what you call Middle East. These are definitions imposed mostly by Europeans.

And London has Goans, Nigerians, Eskimos, Poles, Papua New Gunieans, Samoans, Mexicans, Bengalis, Pakistanis, Indian, you nane it ....

you need a history lesson. For your sake I've posted a video up. You get very emotional, my Arab friend.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

@PAKISTANFOREVER We must never overlook the fact that only the extreme North West India shares common heritage with Pakistan. We can't deny this - only religion is the division. However this is less than 3-4% of India and if you want to reallty be kind say 5%. That means Pakistan is dissimilar to 95% of India.

I get into lot of flak for this but frankly I don't care I am going to say what I feel. I don't see any similarity between my people with Indian Bengali, Orrssan, Assamese, Telagu, Tamil, Kannada, Malaylam Keralites, Maratta, Bihari, Gujrati, and others too many to enumerate. I don't care what religion they are - for me they are Gangas. Period. I am not saying they are inferior - I am saying they are nothing to do with me.

In Pakistan my only brothers are Punjabi, Baloch, Kashmiri and Sindhi. That is my Pakistan exactly the way Sir Allama Iqbal envisioned.

"Personally, I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single State".

and Rehmat Ali placed thre meat on the bones by asking for in his pamphlet "Now or Never".

"Punjab, North-West Frontier Province (Afghan Province), Kashmir, Sind and Baluchistan".


I am sick of Indian's making it look like Pakistan is just a sanctuary for Indian Muslim's. There are nearly 180 million Bihari, Assamese, Tamil etc Muslims in India - The Indian's look at Pakistan as just a extention of these. I refuse to accept that. Further the Indian's use the Indian Punjabi's and 'Haryanvis' who are just another subset of Punjabi's as the 'face' of India and proof that India is same as Pakistan. Which again is lie. It's like Nigerians using the Black American's as proof that USA is like Africa.

I am soon taking a break from this forum but rest assured if Pakistan is not defined as differant from India and moves away from acting like a sanctuary for Indian Muslims that will cause in the long term a question. Which way? West or East. The western provinces of Pakistan look West and if the others pull toward India the inevitable fracture will happen along the faultline.

Rattled? Having a differant opinion then yours or not following the sheep makes me emotional? Strange outlook of life you have !

Bro, that's the ground reality and what I have been saying for years. That reality doesn't change no matter what anyone says on the net. At most, less than 5% of indians have any racial connection to Pakistan. Therefore at least 95% of indians have no racial or genetic connection to Pakistan whatsoever. The only connection is via indian Punjab. But that is neither here nor there. Pakistan has shared provinces with Afghanistan and Iran. And at least 30% of Pakistan's population live in these shared provinces and have the same racial, genetic and dna link to their Afghan and Iranian/Persian counterparts. By the definition of some that means the Pakistanis are in fact Iranians/ Persians and Afghans. Doesn't work like that. Pakistan is NOT A SANCTUARY for indian Muslims. It is a nation for a UNIQUE beautiful racial group who have a unique culture and way of life. Pakistan protects & preserves this from external interference, oppression and genocide. Least the fate of the Pakistani race be that of the Kashmiris or Palestinians.

 

[911]

You get very emotional, my Arab friend.

He gets heart attack the moment he hears the word I N D I A.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Yes you need a geography lesson. These are political constructs. Middle East is Asia. Herodtus's used Asia to describe what you call Middle East. These are definitions imposed mostly by Europeans.

And London has Goans, Nigerians, Eskimos, Poles, Papua New Gunieans, Samoans, Mexicans, Bengalis, Pakistanis, Indian, you name it ....

I specifically mentioned South Asia not Asai as an entire continent. Middle East Central Asai Far East Asia and the vast land scape of Russia are in Asia. I'm talking about the Indian subcontinent.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

And South Asia somehow is a single entity as per you?

Desert at heart of all this is they have a axe to grind. The British built up a hige colony of myriad peoples from Afghanistan to Thailand, from China to Sri Lanka. They even built a capital. In 1947 they expected all this to be ruled by them - sort of gifted to them. It did not happen. The British gift was divided and these guy's can't come to terms with that thus they contrive ways to make that colony alive again by coming up all sort of ways. Then you have another bunch in Pakistan who instead of treating it as opportunity to create a state with it's own destiny instead make it out like a sanctuary for Indian Muslims. Both sides share one thing in common - feeding from and perpetuating the British Raj.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Hmmm same could be said about yourself. Think it is best for you take a little break from this forum.

No he shouldn't. In fact he needs to be here more often. We are a Pakistani forum for Pakistani patriots. We need more people like him. We are not indians or their apologists. We have too many here anyway. If you don't like the fact the Pakistan exists and has a unique racial identity different to the rest of South Asian then you are more than welcome to leave and go to your beloved indian forums.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

He gets heart attack the moment he hears the word I N D I A.

Some people on this forum are very nationalistic. Some could even say racist.

 

[Magi Brahmin]

No he shouldn't. In fact he needs to be here more often. We are a Pakistani forum for Pakistani patriots. We need more people like him. We are not indians or their apologists. We have too many here anyway. If you don't like the fact the Pakistan exists and has a unique racial identity different to the rest of South Asian then you are more than welcome to leave and go to your beloved indian forums.

lol racial difference... i am a pale skinned, green eyed brahmin from haryana. can you show me people who look similar to me in your land ?

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Desert at heart of all this is they have a axe to grind. The British built up a hige colony of myriad peoples from Afghanistan to Thailand, from China to Sri Lanka. They even built a capital. In 1947 they expected all this to be ruled by them - sort of gifted to them. It did not happen. The British gift was divided and these guy's can't come to terms with that thus they contrive ways to make that colony alive again by coming up all sort of ways. Then you have another bunch in Pakistan who instead of treating it as opportunity to create a state with it's own destiny instead make it out like a sanctuary for Indian Muslims. Both sides share one thing in common - feeding from and perpetuating the British Raj.

Could we get back to the topic of MMA perhaps?

lol racial difference... i am a pale skinned, green eyed brahmin from haryana. can you show me people who look similar to me in your land ?

Ive met several Gujrati Muslims from Baroch district with green eyes and pale skin.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Are you thick in the head?

P.S: Pak shares several ethnic groups with Afghanistan aswell.. Pashtuns,Hazara,Qazalbash,Baluch,Nuristani etc.

How are these groups found all over South Asia ?

The British didn't have any favourable view .. Rather they believed in martial races theory ... And even applied it when it came to their own Anglo Saxon troops like the Scotish ..


Why would they hold favourable view of the same people whom they fought and had been fighting till 47?

Pashtuns and Baluch resistance didn't just go away in a day or two.

Pakistan's population also includes at least 10% of people who are from Balochistan, which is a shared province with Iran. They are racially the same as Persians and are exclusive to both Iran and Pakistan. They are not indigenous or found in india.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

lol racial difference... i am a pale skinned, green eyed brahmin from haryana. can you show me people who look similar to me in your land ?

People from the North and Western regions of Pakistan. Particularly those that reside near the Afghan and Iranian border.

 

[saiyan0321]

@PAKISTANFOREVER We must never overlook the fact that only the extreme North West India shares common heritage with Pakistan. We can't deny this - only religion is the division. However this is less than 3-4% of India and if you want to reallty be kind say 5%. That means Pakistan is dissimilar to 95% of India.

I get into lot of flak for this but frankly I don't care I am going to say what I feel. I don't see any similarity between my people with Indian Bengali, Orrssan, Assamese, Telagu, Tamil, Kannada, Malaylam Keralites, Maratta, Bihari, Gujrati, and others too many to enumerate. I don't care what religion they are - for me they are Gangas. Period. I am not saying they are inferior - I am saying they are nothing to do with me.

In Pakistan my only brothers are Punjabi, Baloch, Kashmiri and Sindhi. That is my Pakistan exactly the way Sir Allama Iqbal envisioned.

"Personally, I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single State".

and Rehmat Ali placed thre meat on the bones by asking for in his pamphlet "Now or Never".

"Punjab, North-West Frontier Province (Afghan Province), Kashmir, Sind and Baluchistan".


I am sick of Indian's making it look like Pakistan is just a sanctuary for Indian Muslim's. There are nearly 180 million Bihari, Assamese, Tamil etc Muslims in India - The Indian's look at Pakistan as just a extention of these. I refuse to accept that. Further the Indian's use the Indian Punjabi's and 'Haryanvis' who are just another subset of Punjabi's as the 'face' of India and proof that India is same as Pakistan. Which again is lie. It's like Nigerians using the Black American's as proof that USA is like Africa.

I am soon taking a break from this forum but rest assured if Pakistan is not defined as differant from India and moves away from acting like a sanctuary for Indian Muslims that will cause in the long term a question. Which way? West or East. The western provinces of Pakistan look West and if the others pull toward India the inevitable fracture will happen along the faultline.

Rattled? Having a differant opinion then yours or not following the sheep makes me emotional? Strange outlook of life you have !

Amazing post as usual that highlights some very overlooked points which you highlight as usual.

Massive loss would be your absence in this forum. Massive.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

People from the North and Western regions of Pakistan. Particularly those that reside near the Afghan and Iranian border.

Many Kashmiris and a few people from Mirpur also have green eyes.