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What did I just tell you above? Who exactly have I been pointing out as the REAL VILLAINS in ALL of this, including what happened to IK, both with his installation and his removal? Just how thick are you?

Its really difficult to absorb when a thick person like you calls someone thick since thick like you don't have much to say.

You did this again. You are trying to equate IK with others i.e. IK was installed and removed by military just like military did this to PDM. No. IK was not installed. This was military who actually stole 15-20 PTI seats to force IK to make coalition Govt.

PDM was installed. IK was not installed.

Again. All you do is trying to equate IK with others by pointing tiny things of IK while ignoring all the corruption and treachery of PDM and Generals.
 
PDM was installed. IK was not installed.

If you wish to continue believing that about your cult leader, please feel free to do so. Removing your ignorance is not my responsibility. Reality will do that in its own good time for me. :D
 
If you wish to continue believing that about your cult leader, please feel free to do so. Removing your ignorance is not my responsibility. Reality will do that in its own good time for me. :D
No. IK is not my cult leader. I do know that IK has many faults and he is still making mistakes. But I have a problem with you is that You don't discuss the ills of Generals, PDM, judiciary, election commission etc.

All you do is trying to prove that IK is same as every one else by pointing the petty things related to IK while ignoring the open day corruption and treachery of others.
 
But I have a problem with you is that You don't discuss the ills of Generals, PDM, judiciary, election commission etc.

Obviously you do not know or understand my posting history here, do you? Please go and educate yourself a bit better in that regard if you wish to continue with such mistaken and incorrect impressions. :D
 
Obviously you do not know or understand my posting history here, do you? Please go and educate yourself a bit better in that regard if you wish to continue with such mistaken and incorrect impressions. :D

I don't need to waste my time to go through your posting history since you did say that IK is same as every one else is in our earlier conversation. So its better you go through your own history of last 15 minutes.
 
I don't need to waste my time to go through your posting history since you did say that IK is same as every one else in our earlier conversation. So you go through your own history of last 15 minutes.


LOL. Last 15 minutes is enough for you to judge me only because you are simply too ignorant - and choose to remain so - about the past ten years. We are done here. Bye. :D

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Back on topic, what is the latest on the IMF program revival? Anybody know?
 
LOL. Last 15 minutes is enough for you to judge me only because your are simply too ignorant - and choose to remain so - about the past ten years. We are done here. Bye. :D

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Back on topic, what is the latest on the IMF program revival? Anybody know?

Again. I don't need to waste my time to go through your past 10 years of history since I already wasted my 15 minutes on you. Bye
 
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Again. I don't need to waste my time to through your past 10 years of history since I already wasted my 15 minutes on you. Bye
This is exactly right. On another thread, he says that IK is equally responsible for the mess. As if. This is replying to my assertion that all are not equal in blame. And root cause is shared by two particular parties.

Yes, I know. I posted that intentionally to show that IK has been lying to the nation all along, not just when he was in power. Similar promises during his second election campaign are also available as links, if you are interested. They are a matter of record.
Dude don’t be lazy. You made a claim that IK said he’d finish corruption in 90 days. I said post it because context is king. You posted something from 2012. It doesn’t take an Einstein that what he said in 2013 election cycle is not a promise he’d fulfill in post 2018 term.

So unless you provide the evidence for your claim, your claim is null and void.
 
Except that there is NO shift in any narrative that I have put forward on PDF. Building up a lie as a foundation will NEVER work. Please carry on "woof woofing" as you like. :D
oh come on now, surely as someone who like a 'dheet mitti' spent years growling against the army on here this very forum and we all saw it! is the foundation for the woofing against the army meak? :laugh:

surely its a fistbumping the air moment as the snarling against the army was proven feasible.

its just that your proverbial snarling, growling and 'woofing' :-)partay:)against IK isn't just being done coincidentally.
 
Dude don’t be lazy. You made a claim that IK said he’d finish corruption in 90 days. I said post it because context is king. You posted something from 2012. It doesn’t take an Einstein that what he said in 2013 election cycle is not a promise he’d fulfill in post 2018 term.

So unless you provide the evidence for your claim, your claim is null and void.

LOL. If he did not make that promise, how was able to take the credit for doing it?

"Prime Minister noted that no financial scandal had surfaced during his government rule so far and added the promise of eradication of corruption was fulfilled in the first 90 days. He contended unlike PTI government, big scandals like Panama Leaks kept coming to the fore in previous governments."


"PTI’s manifesto is fascinating. Loadshedding would be grappled within three years; corruption would be wiped off in 90 days; there would be a uniform education system; timely and affordable justice would be provided to the masses, defence budget would be discussed in Parliament, Pakistan would be turned into an Islamic welfare state; relations would be improved with India and the US, though Pakistan would get out of the US war on terror while the drones would be stopped."


Is that enough or do you want more? :D
 
LOL. If he did not make that promise, how was able to take the credit for doing it?

"Prime Minister noted that no financial scandal had surfaced during his government rule so far and added the promise of eradication of corruption was fulfilled in the first 90 days. He contended unlike PTI government, big scandals like Panama Leaks kept coming to the fore in previous governments."


"PTI’s manifesto is fascinating. Loadshedding would be grappled within three years; corruption would be wiped off in 90 days; there would be a uniform education system; timely and affordable justice would be provided to the masses, defence budget would be discussed in Parliament, Pakistan would be turned into an Islamic welfare state; relations would be improved with India and the US, though Pakistan would get out of the US war on terror while the drones would be stopped."


Is that enough or do you want more? :D
Yeah you prove my point. Corruption as far as big ticket items. So your stance is disproven then. Clv
 
Yeah you prove my point. Corruption as far as big ticket items. So your stance is disproven then. Clv


LOL. IK made the promise, and he failed to keep it, while falsely claiming credit for it. Clearly. Obviously you choose not to see that, which is not my problem. :D
 
LOL. IK made the promise, and he failed to keep it. Clearly. Obviously you choose not to see that, which is not my problem. :D
Lol, Yup you cannot understand context. Context is king ofc. Not my problem either.
 
The worst part of IK is that he used populism to come to power and then implemented populist policies leading to a worse economic situation we see today

Compare this to Modi, who also used populism in order to come to power but once Modi was in power he implemented tough economic reforms for which results we see today in India.

People love IK to much and are blinded by that rather than thinking rationaly. In all 4 years in power his only major domestic achievement was his handling of covid. He could have leveraged how early and quick pak came out of the pandemic compared to other major nations. Unfortnately as his other promises he never delivered.

His only foreign policy victory was shooting down indian jets and returning the pilot without escalation.

Other than these 2 achievements all else was a failure. IK had enough power were he could have done so so much. Yet failed to do anything.

Yes IK is still better than the other lot. He is not corrupt and has good intentions, but why does he never follow his own speeches or implement what he preaches to others??? Whether having a strong team, increasing tax revenue, tackling corruption, etc… all performance indicators declined during his term, you simply have to look at global indexes to get an idea.

Me personally I dont think IK has the managerial skills to run the nation. He is more of an inspirational figurehead for the masses. If he does come back to power (which he will given fair elections are held) id strongly prefer him to become the President and let a capable economic team run the country (PM, CMs, FM)
We need juanid safdar...he is second genius after ishaq dar
 
you cannot understand context. Context is king ofc.


Except that these are your words:

You made a claim that IK said he’d finish corruption in 90 days. I said post it because context is king. You posted something from 2012.
what he said in 2013 election cycle is not a promise he’d fulfill in post 2018 term.

Except that the links I posted were clearly relevant after 2012 (check the dates please).

And then you try to invent the false pretext of "big ticket items":

Corruption as far as big ticket items

It is obvious who is desperately trying logical somersaults to keep their faith in a failed cult leader alive, and it is not me. :D
 

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