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Pakistan Forex Reserves At All-Time High Of $17.20 Billion

Go for a petitition.

*Suggestive Note* Stay away from Taliban controlled areas.

On more seriously note, first thing you need to do is create budget transparency, then you know exactly where you are what direction you need to head in. Theirs not point living in a fool paradise on what some said were 'cooked account books'

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Pakistan only releases whats been classified as 'minimal information' on the budget.

Thing about Pakistan is that the average man does not give a hoot about the budget provided that he's getting his share of flour, he has a house to live in and his children are happy. Take one of these factors away and then you have problems. At this very moment, all 3 of these comfort factors have been taken away and the average Pakistani is in a state of hysteria..........honestly speaking, Democracy has not once brought anything of substance to this country, we are much better off living under military rule. Otherwise, the state is a monopoly, the same faces come in turns and ruin the country, rape the people(economically), flee to some foreign country and come back shamelessly to contest the next election.
 
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Kakgeta^ your comments are becoming off topic, i don't know why moderates don't regulate this forum. But anyhow, What i can give you (pakistani) over the Indians is you can communicate properly.

I don't know who these commentator's are but they are murdering the English language.
 
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Kakgeta^ your comments are becoming off topic, i don't know why moderates don't regulate this forum. But anyhow, What i can give you (pakistani) over the Indians is you can communicate properly.

I don't know who these commentator's are but they are murdering the English language.

I'm sorry if I'm moving off topic, sometimes I lose control over my emotions on seeing the pitiful condition of my fellow countrymen. If you got an air of extremism from my post then that was completely through misunderstanding, I am a moderate and proud of it.
As far as communication goes, even being able to speak a bit of english is something to be proud of since it is not our mother tongue......
 
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I'm sorry if I'm moving off topic, sometimes I lose control over my emotions on seeing the pitiful condition of my fellow countrymen. If you got an air of extremism from my post then that was completely through misunderstanding, I am a moderate and proud of it.

No no, I was speaking about this forum in general, the rules here are very relaxed. Compared to some sri lankan forums I've been on, such as this. Stockinfo.lk - Free Sri Lankan Investment Forum - Portal
Just look at their list of rules and compare it to this you will see what i mean.

However I like it like this, you can have a more relaxed wider discussion. There they would eat you alive for placing a comma incorrectly lol.

As far as communication goes, even being able to speak a bit of english is something to be proud of since it is not our mother tongue......

Your English is impeccable lol. :cheers::pakistan:
 
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No no, I was speaking about this forum in general, the rules here are very relaxed. Compared to some sri lankan forums I've been on, such as this. Stockinfo.lk - Free Sri Lankan Investment Forum - Portal
Just look at their list of rules and compare it to this you will see what i mean.

It is true, relaxation in posting your POV is a real liberty since only then can you freely speak out on what you believe without fear of having to face a ban, but some people tend to misuse this liberty, and that's why we have the mighty moderators.

However I like it like this, you can have a more relaxed wider discussion. There they would eat you alive for placing a comma incorrectly lol.

Lol

Your English is impeccable lol. :cheers::pakistan:

Thank you, I am flattered, I would commend you on your command over the english language but with a literacy rate as high as you have in your country, it would just be pointing out the obvious........
 
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This is primarily aid money, if the economy was so good, the IMF wouldn't be dictating our economic policies to us. The export sector is in shambles, about 56% of the textile industry has migrated to Bdesh. Factory workers are out of jobs, factories remain closed on account of power shortage for 4 OUT OF 7 DAYS. If all this can be traded for a dictatorship and a better economy even from "Cooked Account Books" then I want my coup de' tat !

That's the misconception in the minds of pakistanis that Musharraf was their best era for economical growth. But the truth is entirely different.

Pakistan's economy figures were some what impassive at that time thanks to 9/11 America and Europe were showering aid/donations, rescheduling debt repayment because that want pakistan to fight along with them the War on Terror.

If you want to learn the reality other then remain in illusion Google is a good step to start with.


"Observers attribute this success largely to debt reduction and the securing of hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and aid in return for support in the US-led war on terror."

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Profile: Shaukat Aziz

Facts and figures retreved from state of pakistan bank website you will need acrobat reader.

Pakistan's debt situation has actually worsened due to mounting interest and the government has fiddled with the figures in order to claim that the debt situation has improved.

The government's strategy is to increase the time over which the debt was repayed, debt-rescheduling, but the government has not only failed in this but the debt to the West has actually increased.

On 24 August, a government official admitted that Pakistan would not meet the Paris Club deadline for debt rescheduling on 1 September. The Finance Ministry official confirmed to The Nation newspaper "We have requested to the Secretariat of Paris Club to extend the deadline for striking agreements with different countries by the end of December 2002." Furthermore, the State Bank of Pakistan's own most recent figures reveal that due to mounting interest Pakistan's debt to the West has actually increased in spite of the relief from debt rescheduling and joining Bush's crusade on Islam. The debt to the Paris Club has increased from $US 11,822 million to 12,489 million.

http://www.sbp.org.pk/report2001/Q3-FY02.pdf
page 8

Multilateral debt has increased from $US 13,343 million to 13,353 million. And debt to the IMF has leapt from $US 15,529 million 1,778 million.


http://www.sbp.org.pk/report2001/Q3-FY02.pdf
page 8

And the government's own statistics show that over last 11 years Pakistan has paid US$ 7.2 billion in interest. Finally, what has enabled both Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz to claim debt has fallen is actually a fiddle. The State Bank of Pakistan announced this year that it will no longer accept liability for the foreign currency accounts frozen in the time of Nawaz Sharrif and has dumped such debt onto other local banks. So, the debt still exists but no longer appears on the government's own debt figures. Pakistan's worsening debt to the West confirms that the colonialists will not allow Pakistan to escape the debt trap, so that they can continue to extract more and more economic, military and strategic demands from her.

This is why on 23 August the US shot down the government's fanciful claims of a debt write off by confirming that it would only reschedule its US$ 3 billion loans.


comment: Musharaff and co continue there lies to the pakistan public even signing of a $3 billion rescheduling loan is seen as something good how stupid do they think people are!

Musharaff & Shaukat Aziz lie about Pakistans debt situation!


U.S. Is Planning an Aid Package for Pakistan Worth Billions
by Joseph Kahn

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration has put together an aid package for Pakistan that is likely to total several billion dollars and includes sweeping debt rescheduling, grants stretching over many years and trade benefits as a reward for its support against terrorism.

The package, which is encountering some resistance in Washington and abroad, would represent a departure from the often glacial process of aiding poor countries in recent years. Through the 1990's, American aid to many developing nations fell, and the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund set up elaborate mechanisms to determine which poor nations should receive debt relief. Pakistan, with an average per capita annual income of $500 but with access to world capital markets, was not among them.


I absolutely support debt relief for Pakistan. But it's hypocritical to just dole out the money to Pakistan while denying help to others that are really even more in need.

Ann Pettifor, who heads Jubilee Plus
While Pakistan is unlikely to receive all the concessions it now seeks, the administration's package amounts to the largest mobilization of low-interest loans and debt relief since allies showered benefits on Egypt during the Persian Gulf War.

The aid envisaged by Washington would make Pakistan the largest recipient of American aid
after Israel and Egypt.

Pockets of opposition are already becoming visible in Washington, among nongovernmental organizations and, more quietly, in Japan.

Japan recently rejected Pakistan's request to forgive the entire $5 billion owed Tokyo and is moving more slowly than the Bush administration to ease sanctions on that country imposed after Pakistan tested a nuclear weapon in response to India's similar test in 1998. Tokyo has agreed, however, to delay payments on about $500 million in Pakistani debt.

While the support may reward President Pervez Musharraf for his backing of the American-led coalition, critics worry that politically inspired aid could be misdirected.

Some American lawmakers say the Bush administration may have too readily agreed to give Pakistan about $600 million in cash this year and next without a reliable way of ensuring that the money would be used to improve health and education rather than to underwrite the military or the Islamic militants that Pakistan backs in the disputed territory of Kashmir.

"If you just write a blank check it will end up in the pockets of the wrong people," said Representative Jim McDermott, a Washington Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee.

While Mr. McDermott supports helping Pakistan with its floundering economy, he said the Bush administration had "been a little cavalier" about wiping away sanctions on Pakistan imposed after General Musharraf took power in a military coup in 1999.

Representative Jim Kolbe, an Arizona Republican who chairs the foreign operations subcommittee of the House Committee on Appropriations, criticized the administration for granting valuable but vaguely defined "budgetary support," rather than financing well-supervised individual projects.

"I have not gotten sufficient reassurances at this point," Mr. Kolbe said.

The aid the United States provided to Pakistan and Afghan rebels during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980's is widely seen as having helped finance the rise of the Taliban, which now controls most of Afghanistan.

Talks between officials of the State and Treasury departments and Shaukat Aziz, Pakistan's finance minister, have resulted in an agreement that the administration will work to secure four types of aid for Pakistan, administration officials said.

These include grants from the United States and other allies. In addition, the Bush administration is using its influence to support new loan programs by the I.M.F. and the World Bank, including an anti-poverty loan worth about $500 million from the I.M.F. and possibly a line of credit, at higher rates, of some $1 billion.


The United States has already begun calculating how to reschedule payments on the $3 billion Pakistan owes Washington. It has urged allies to do the same, and Britain has already followed suit. Bilateral loans total about $12 billion out of the country's $38 billion foreign debt.

Pakistan may also secure a higher quota or lower tariffs for its textile exports to the United States.

Pakistan estimates that the war in Afghanistan will cost it some $2.5 billion this year alone, including lost trade and tourism and the expense of caring for Afghan refugees.

One senior administration official said the United States will monitor closely how the money is used. But the official also acknowledged that Washington would support Pakistan's bid to get some extraordinary benefits.

"The reality is that this is a country that has behaved in a stalwart fashion during this crisis, and that is going to be recognized," he said. "We are going to find a unique approach for Pakistan."

The World Bank and I.M.F. have denied any debt relief to almost half of the eligible poor countries because they are embroiled in wars, fearing that money would diverted to the military. Pakistan now has conflicts on two of its borders.

"I absolutely support debt relief for Pakistan," said Ann Pettifor, who heads Jubilee Plus, a British group that advocates canceling the debts of all poor countries. "But it's hypocritical to just dole out the money to Pakistan while denying help to others that are really even more in need."

Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company

U.S. Is Planning an Aid Package for Pakistan Worth Billions
 
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Out of $17.20 Billion ... $8.20 Billion(from total $11.7 billion) belongs to IMF..which Pakistan will be required to return to IMF within 3 yrs of completion of stand by arrangement with IMF..which was suppose to end on 31 Dec 2010 but will now end in Sep 2011.
 
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It is true, relaxation in posting your POV is a real liberty since only then can you freely speak out on what you believe without fear of having to face a ban, but some people tend to misuse this liberty, and that's why we have the mighty moderators.

Thats very true.


LOL bro its no joke, you know on that forum, i got threats of litigation, cos I had said that a particular stock will reach a certain price, due to my 'talk back attitude' they had contacted my ISP, regarding a breach of their 'fair use policy' I signed with my ISP.

"apparently stating a stock will reach certain price is misleading and gives the impression that a particular investment decision is risk free. " Seriously what dumbass would actually believe me that what i say is written in stone.:hitwall:

My ISP had then contacted me about a week ago and threatened to disconnect my internet for breaching the 'acceptable user policy' I signed in-exchange for my internet. Apparently I violated the terms of use of their services, by violating the community rules on the forum which i had agreed to be legally bonded to in-exchange for the activation of my account on the forum. crazy man :hitwall::hitwall:
 
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