Pakistan Finalizes S20 Submarine Order from China?

[Rangila]

It's 5:20 AM in Caracas, Venezuela right now. That tells me you are either lying or don't sleep. I'd believe the former.

Other than that your credibility is basically shot for that one lie of false-flagging.
This is bizarre. None of the Venezuelans I know are named 'Rangila'.

B.S. has to have a limit - you know.....

Rangila means I speak Hindi. Because My parents were from India.
Born in Venezuela. Caracas.

If every one falls in line and verifies their flags.
I too will.
Now what?
Right now Traveling in the Singapore and Tweeting from there.

Don't be a smart alecky for nothing.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

I think PN is not buying the S-20 rather the Type_039A_submarine which is bigger one and China has about 15 of them already in service and there is a good possibility that the 4 of these are coming to PN very soon. I am sure that PN will buy a total of 12 of these submarines till 2025 in 3 batches:

Type-039A Block-I
Type-039A Block-II
Type-039A Block-III

Type 039A submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Any info on the blocks you keep referring to in your posts Sir?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Because our country our will....do you have a problem with that?

I really like the polite and pleasant manner in which you answered that question. Smooooooth....

Why did India needed a N bomb considering Pakistan didn't had one?


Ah don't tell me now you made it b/c of Chinese.

Why? Which part of that reason do you find hard to believe?

In any naval conflict, half of indian navy would be busy escorting AAC as far away from the conflict (our reach) as possible, because they know that will be our prime target and we will damage/destroy/sink it and that would be a big blow, a moral death of indian navy and terrorist gang known as Indians. So don't worry about the AAC, its a blessing in disguise for us



Get Well Soon! to all Indians who just got a sudden outburst of diarrhea.......LOL

Can your military procurement not go on without an examination of our stools? Just asking.

 

[My-Analogous]

What does Pakistan need a second strike capability for when its only nuclear threat comes from a nation with a stated no first use policy?

Why India is also trying to achieve that?. Did India written that they will not use Nuclear first?. We are preparing our self for every situation and that is a right of every nation

 

[I S I]

Why? Which part of that reason do you find hard to believe?

b/c we don't buy this sh!t that you solely made bomb for China. It's total bull crap.

Can your military procurement not go on without an examination of our stools? Just asking.

The sole enemy of Pakistan is India. So it's a common sense that Pakistan will procure weapons remembering its adversary in mind.

While India made lots of enemy of her b/c of her fetish for wars. We're different than you.

 

[Joe Shearer]

b/c we don't buy this sh!t that you solely made bomb for China. It's total bull crap.

I would like to understand your reasoning. Is it possible to have a discussion without the shit and the bull crap, or does that handicap your capacity to communicate?

The sole enemy of Pakistan is India. So it's a common sense that Pakistan will procure weapons remembering its adversary in mind.

While India made lots of enemy of her b/c of her fetish for wars. We're different than you.

Why India is also trying to achieve that?. Did India written that they will not use Nuclear first?. We are preparing our self for every situation and that is a right of every nation

You have a right to decide your own policy, but, yes, it is a fact that the Indian forces and administration have a declared no-first-use policy.

 

[I S I]

I would like to understand your reasoning. Is it possible to have a discussion without the shit and the bull crap, or does that handicap your capacity to communicate?






You have a right to decide your own policy, but, yes, it is a fact that the Indian forces and administration have a declared no-first-use policy.

You should better avoid me otherwise i'll Internethresh you.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You should better avoid me otherwise i'll Internethresh you.

Are you serious?

 

[I S I]

Are you serious?

Offcourse not. Now cheer up.

 

[Pakistani till death]

How does this notion of second strike is concieved by Pakistanis against the past (Kargil) reality where Mr. Nawaz Sharif went running towards Clinton and was made to wait for four hours to meet him? NO NUKES WERE USED...Instead, Pakistan retreated by swallowing its pride.

Conventional wisdom: One who draws his gun from the holster first, survives.

Pakistan only flaunts.
Sorry. All foam, no beer.

No nukes were used because it was a small limited scale conflict. Had it become a full scale conventional war and our sovereignty and integrity threatened we would have used nukes without wasting any time.

 

[Joe Shearer]

No nukes were used because it was a small limited scale conflict. Had it become a full scale conventional war and our sovereignty and integrity threatened we would have used nukes without wasting any time.

Do you realise that if we had taken the same attitude as you just defined, there would have been nuclear war? Do you realise that the Pakistani deep state typically assumes this degree of strategic conservatism on the part of India?

 

[Wardaddy]

What does Pakistan need a second strike capability for when its only nuclear threat comes from a nation with a stated no first use policy?

India has way too many written policies regarding Foreign Affairs which are worth mentioning but the point here to keep in mind for Pakistan is that those policies are just written.....India had done MANY MANY things in past which were completely not in accordance to what was planned/policized so out Army can NOT let our country face risks on that.....And if you guys really had NO FIRST USE policy, then how come you attacked us in 1965? Even a single breach is enough for us to understand your intentions....Just to mentions, our religions also encourages out Armed Forces to keep pace with the modern world in defense and teaches us to have our bestest technology ready and get set up to use if in any case, invasion happens...

 

[Pakistani till death]

Do you realise that if we had taken the same attitude as you just defined, there would have been nuclear war? Do you realise that the Pakistani deep state typically assumes this degree of strategic conservatism on the part of India?

You do know it is our nukes that have protected. The sub continent from complete destruction and would continue to do so in the future. Had we had no nukes india would have been too cocky and would have had initiated war whether at the time of zia or 2001 or even 2008. Pakistan wont survive a nuclear war and we know that but neither would india. Even if india does it would be sent back to the stone age. Pakistan will never hesitate to use nukes as we would be doomed either way. India on the other hand would always hesitate.

 

[Joe Shearer]

India has way too many written policies regarding Foreign Affairs which are worth mentioning but the point here to keep in mind for Pakistan is that those policies are just written.....India had done MANY MANY things in past which were completely not in accordance to what was planned/policized so out Army can NOT let our country face risks on that.....And if you guys really had NO FIRST USE policy, then how come you attacked us in 1965? Even a single breach is enough for us to understand your intentions....Just to mentions, our religions also encourages out Armed Forces to keep pace with the modern world in defense and teaches us to have our bestest technology ready and get set up to use if in any case, invasion happens...

That is an extremely stupid and uneducated remark.

It is clear from a study of solely Pakistani sources that it was Pakistan that attacked in Kashmir, once using its special forces, in Operation Gibraltar, then using its regular formations in Operation Grand Slam.

Are you denying this?

You do know it is our nukes that have protected. The sub continent from complete destruction and would continue to do so in the future. Had we had no nukes india would have been too cocky and would have had initiated war whether at the time of zia or 2001 or even 2008. Pakistan wont survive a nuclear war and we know that but neither would india. Even if india does it would be sent back to the stone age. Pakistan will never hesitate to use nukes as we would be doomed either way. India on the other hand would always hesitate.

No, I know no such thing. I do know that when Pakistan was lying vulnerable before us in 1971, we took a deliberate decision to hold back. I do know that we took a deliberate decision to give Pakistan very equitable terms in the treaty-making that followed.

For you to make that utterly fanciful remark about Zia or 2001 or 2008 is truly inept. You seem to assume that you have been the moral actor throughout, evidence to the contrary. And on top of promoting every single kind of chicanery, for you to assure us that you would ensure our destruction along with your own, and to even look forward to your own destruction as it would lead to ours, is a truly perverted mind-set.

If India really wanted the destruction of Pakistan, I can assure you, with at least as much credibility as your assurances in your post, that there are ways to grind you down slowly, without ever allowing the situation to come to the point of a threatened nuclear attack. It is again our political and strategic management that allows you to crow so loud. Don't think it is your own doing.

 

[Wardaddy]

How does this notion of second strike is concieved by Pakistanis against the past (Kargil) reality where Mr. Nawaz Sharif went running towards Clinton and was made to wait for four hours to meet him? NO NUKES WERE USED...Instead, Pakistan retreated by swallowing its pride.

Conventional wisdom: One who draws his gun from the holster first, survives.

Pakistan only flaunts.
Sorry. All foam, no beer.

Ok, so when you no nothing about what exactly happened, do NOT just show up and debate on things just not to assay on it.....I admit that Pakistan retaliated in the Kargil but not due to imcompetency of our Armed Forces....It was a silly mistake made by our political leaders which we still are compensating for....Musharaf did not just cope up with the situation and ultimately that was the reason of Marshal Law being enforced in the country...Do you even know, that we actually had captured that hill in the Kargil attack but upon intervention by Americans, we had to RETALIATE...
.Americans had been behaving like this for forever and the will continue behaving like this.....If Americans really do think us as some destroyed NATION, then why on the Earth, they kept a HARSH attitude against us....We all remember that when Pakistan was working on its Nuclear Programme, many including but not limited to America and India opposed strongly declaring that they can use the nuclear weapons against India...Why did the never think that India will us Weapons against Pakistan....