Pakistan fielding coach complains of abusive behaviour from Afridi, Akmal

[Menace2Society]

We people wont mind their attitudes, if their performance at least matches the level of their attitude

Afridi killed Pakistan cricket.

 

[syedali73]

Afridi killed Pakistan cricket.

The respective Patron in-Chiefs killed the cricket.

 

[gambit]

I did not serve my country for the salary. Yes, many people do take issues like pay and benefits as factors into their reasons to serve, but for a volunteer force, patriotism do matter into one's motivation to serve. Olympic athletes do not get rich while in training. They train to their best so that they can do their country and fellow citizens proud to be of that country, even just to compete against the best of other countries, not yet to win. Most of them are of the working class and live at the generosity of sponsors while they train.

 

[Devil Soul]

Afridi killed Pakistan cricket.

Not single handedly thou,

 

[Menace2Society]

The real problem is the quality of the pool of players to select from.

PCB thick tank think selecting players on basis of FC performances for ODI games is the right think to do. For me that reeks of desperation.

Firstly the pool of players in domestic cricket are mostly sifarish. When good ones come through they are sidelined. For example Sohail kukri Tanvir is captain of a Pak domestic team and he is intentionally leaving out Hammad Azam to keep his place.

Umar Amin allegedly paid for a days worth of full tosses in a domestic game.

Improve the playing standards by regulating what the domestic teams are doing when selecting players.

Scouting system needs overhaul. Instead of paying for a selection panel who are in reality a bunch of late 60 somethings with complete disconnect with ground realities in domestic scene.

Instead why not 1 chief scout/selector and give him a large network of scouts with a good eye to tour Pakistan for talent. Very important these people are not willing to entertain sifarish.

Top sports teams have a solid scouting system. I just do not understand why PCB don't get this. Sethi laid out the management structure but he did not do anything for its support function.

What a poor job. I would have thought someone with the intellect of Sethi would see the big picture.

 

[I.R.A]

Sohail kukri Tanir

How do you know this

 

[syedali73]

The real problem is the quality of the pool of players to select from.

PCB thick tank think selecting players on basis of FC performances for ODI games is the right think to do. For me that reeks of desperation.

Firstly the pool of players in domestic cricket are mostly sifarish. When good ones come through they are sidelined. For example Sohail kukri Tanir is captain of a Pak domestic team and he is intentionally leaving out Hammad Azam to keep his place.

Umar Amin allegedly paid for a days worth of full tosses in a domestic game.

Improve the playing standards by regulating what the domestic teams are doing when selecting players.

Scouting system needs overhaul. Instead of paying for a selection panel who are in reality a bunch of late 60 somethings with complete disconnect with ground realities in domestic scene.

Instead why not a chief scout or selector and give up a large network of scouts with a good eye to tour Pakistan for talent. Very important these people are not willing to entertain sifarish.

Top sports teams have a solid scouting system. I just do not understand why PCB don't get this. Sethi laid out the management structure but he did not do anything for its support function.

What a poor job. I would have thought someone with the intellect of Sethi would see the big picture.

Sethi is not known for his management skills. Again, the respective PMs have run the PCB like they have run other institutions such as PIA, Railway, WAPDA, Steel Mill etc. Years of mismanagement and nepotism has brought PCB to this state. Today you make it independent and you'll see how fast Pakistan cricket would regain its former glory.

 

[Nawaba]

Sethi is not known for his management skills. Again, the respective PMs have run the PCB like they have run other institutions such as PIA, Railway, WAPDA, Steel Mill etc. Years of mismanagement and nepotism has brought PCB to this state. Today you make it independent and you'll see how fast Pakistan cricket would regain its former glory.

Agreed Sethi is a piece of shit.

Zaka Ashraf was cheated.

 

[Spring Onion]

This thought towards a soldier I am afraid needs revisiting ,

Soldiers fight for a variety of reason - Loyalty to the nation, Izzat / respect of their regiment , tradition etc are only some of them.

Most definitely not for the salary. No one would willingly put himself in harms was for the salary alone.This is too shallow a thought.

The profession of arms is way above financial remuneration.

@fatman17 , @Imran Khan , @SpArK , @Oscar @Abu Zolfiqar @Zarvan @gambit @Roybot @Aether @WebMaster @Horus @nair @Spring Onion @waz @TaimiKhan @Jungibaaz @T-Faz

Your views on this please .

I agree 100% with you. Nobody wants to leave parents grieving for dead son, neither one wants beautiful wife be widowed and kids orphan for few lakhs/thousands.

if anyone could have stomach to stand for honor/traditions/ high moral then entire country would have joined Army.
Its not for everyone but for few

 

[Menace2Society]

Sethi is not known for his management skills. Again, the respective PMs have run the PCB like they have run other institutions such as PIA, Railway, WAPDA, Steel Mill etc. Years of mismanagement and nepotism has brought PCB to this state. Today you make it independent and you'll see how fast Pakistan cricket would regain its former glory.

You are right, Sethi essentially played the role of a Change Manager.

He made 100 top-mid level executives redundant. He found these people were not doing much for the money. 100 people doing nothing??!!!

Miandad had senior role but in reality he was twiddling his thumbs for salary.

Sethi did make some good moves and recovered PCB from Big 3 meeting debacle by Zaka. Zaka Ashraf, this idiot fool embarrassed Pakistan cricket in the Big 3 meetings with illogical bizarre behaviour. The Australian chief told him to "sit down" when he was speaking. Under Sethi $100 million dollars per annum have been secured as part of the deal to back Big 3 and put in place a diplomat to head it to rebuild ties with other boards.

PCB would benefit from hiring a top management consultant asap.

 

[Spring Onion]

Now he has decided to resign in the middle of a world cup. Must have realized what happened to Bob Woolmer in 2007.

Fielding coach Grant Luden quits over players’ attitude - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

and oh genius what happened to him?

 

[Bang Galore]

True. These morons don't play for free but are handsomely paid from the tax payer's money. In effect, they are our servants, who we pay to entertain us. On top of that, they earn millions from the ads etc., and when it comes to perform, nothings significant.

Tax payer's money??

 

[Spring Onion]

Tax payer's money??

yeh the Gornaameeeent aaaaf Pakistan pay them

 

[third eye]

sir you are way too mild and too kind.

I do not have the moral right here, and neither is my dad a member, so I am waiting for a fauji, serving or retired, to come here and tear this guy a new one.

I am not here to argue with an obscure poster over the net.

Its just the approach some people have towards soldiers & soldiering that is jarring. Has something to do with the Corporate culture that exists where it is not understood why a man does that extra mile away from kith & kin.

I did not serve my country for the salary. Yes, many people do take issues like pay and benefits as factors into their reasons to serve, but for a volunteer force, patriotism do matter into one's motivation to serve.

I agree 100% with you. Nobody wants to leave parents grieving for dead son, neither one wants beautiful wife be widowed and kids orphan for few lakhs/thousands.

It is gratifying to know that sanity exists in some minds, thank you.

Years spent in fatigues were not in vain.

Mods : Shift these conversations to an appropriate place, lest this thread gets derailed.

 

[Winchester]

True. These morons don't play for free but are handsomely paid from the tax payer's money. In effect, they are our servants, who we pay to entertain us. On top of that, they earn millions from the ads etc., and when it comes to perform, nothings significant.

I understand the anger but no none of them are paid by our tax payers...
PCB gets all of its revenues from coverage rights,ticket sales plus from the ICC after these world tournaments