Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[behram]

vital signs with F-16,early 90's.

PAF F-16A block 15 #84721 seen deployed at Maripur AFB

Two PAF F-16s seen with a USAF KC-135 tanker

Fantastic pics bro, do you happen to have a pic of F-16A 85720?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

We do need about 20-24 more F16 for our airforce

After that we should just focus on J10B and J11 etc

We need to prehaps upgrade our air defence capabilities from ground

 

[umair86]

We do need about 20-24 more F16 for our airforce

After that we should just focus on J10B and J11 etc

We need to prehaps upgrade our air defence capabilities from ground

20-24 F-16s would be fantastic.
Ground based airdefences should be boasted up with induction of Chinese low cost SAMs as soon as possible like KS-1A HQ-9 and FT-2000

 

[ejaz007]

F-16 training bolsters U.S.-Pakistan relations

May 4, 2010 (by Maj. Gabe Johnson) - Pakistan's air force soon will upgrade its 30-year-old fleet of F-16 Fighting Falcons, and the pilots charged with flying more capable fighters are ready to handle the new technology after training with the Arizona Air National Guard.

PAF Squadron Leader Azman Khalil, left, goes over flight information with Capt. Andy Wittke, an instructor pilot at the 162nd FW, before a training mission on April 27, 2010. Khalil and seven other Pakistani pilots graduated from F-16C/D upgrade training at Tucson IAP on May 4, 2010. Eight Pakistan Air Force pilots, each experienced in the F-16A/B, recently learned to fly the newer C/D model aircraft at the 162nd Fighter Wing, the international F-16 training unit at Tucson International Airport. They were honored at a graduation ceremony on May 4.

They are the first from their country to train in the United States since 1983 when the last class of Pakistani pilots trained at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz.

"This graduation is historic for U.S.-Pakistan relations," said Pakistan Air Force Wing Commander Ghazanfar Latif, a 12-year F-16A pilot. "For Pakistan, our air force is gaining capabilities that it has needed for the last decade; capabilities that are critical to ongoing operations in Pakistan's war on terror."

The new planes purchased by the Pakistani government, block 52 versions of the multi-role fighter, are far more advanced than the older A-model versions and will allow pilots to conduct operations at night and greatly enhance their use of precision munitions.

The first four of the 18 total purchased are scheduled for delivery June 26 to Shahbaz air base in south-central Pakistan. The rest will be delivered on a staggered schedule throughout this year. In addition, their existing fleet will undergo a mid-life update in 2011 designed to upgrade cockpits and avionics to match the F-16C/D.

In preparation for the June delivery, the eight pilots and their families will have spent 10 months in the United States navigating the upgrade training pipeline.

They spent two and half months reviewing military aviation terminology at the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas, and seven months in flight training at Tucson International Airport. Since the C/D-models used for training in Tucson are block 25 F-16s, they will next undergo two weeks of additional block 52 instruction before returning to Pakistan.

"Even though they're flying block 25s here, they will still be able to operate their block 52s back home. When they leave here they will get training from Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth, Texas, on the differences," said Lt. Col. Kelly Parkinson, 195th Fighter Squadron commander. "The two blocks fly the same; it's essentially the employment of weapons that makes the difference."

The bulk of their flight training in Tucson included a transition course from the F-16A/B to the F-16C/D, flight lead upgrade training and instructor pilot certification.

"We're training these eight pilots so they can return home and be instructors themselves and teach others to fly the new F-16s," said Colonel Parkinson, a 22-year fighter pilot.

"I think the training here is very well organized and tailored to our needs, also the standards here are very high," said Latif. "This is going to make a big difference because we do not have the capability to make precision engagements at night with A-models. Everybody understands that collateral damage is a big factor and the sensors on the C-model will help us carry out precision engagement and close air support."

With so much to learn, the students flew a rigorous schedule of five flights per week. The average student tempo is closer to three per week.

"The radar, datalink and other avionics help create the big picture of what is going on around you. There's lots of information to process in the C-model, so you have to prioritize all of the input you are getting," said Squadron Leader Yasir Malik. "But these instructors know what they are doing and they are good teachers."

Maj. Windy Hendrick, a flight commander and 13-year F-16 pilot, has instructed students from all over the world. She said she and her fellow instructors learned a great deal about their Pakistani counterparts.

"They are all experienced pilots with 500 to 1,800 fighter hours in the F-16, and the majority of that time is combat hours in the fight against extremists," she said. "They are very humble and don't talk about their experience, but the more we learn about them and all they've done it makes us proud to be their instructors."

"They are very dedicated, hard working and they have great attitudes. Their presence in the squadron has been a real pleasure."

When flying over the military ranges of Southern Arizona, Pakistan's pilots had experienced instructors like Hendrick to guide them; but back on the ground they relied on the unit's international military student office (IMSO) for help with housing, transportation, documentation and adapting to American culture.

"We could not ask for more help from the IMSO office. They came to San Antonio to meet us before we came to Tucson to help us start our move," said Squadron Leader Malik. "They went to see apartments in Tucson to help us find living arrangements, and they set up many trips all over the state. We saw so many places that we would never have found on our own."

"We would have been more confused with trying to find a place to live and get adjusted if it weren't for IMSO."

It's unclear if more student pilots from Pakistan will train in Tucson; however, according to Colonel Parkinson, the 162nd stands ready.

"Training capable fighter pilots for our partner-nation air forces and fostering relationships in the world-wide F-16 community is what we do. We will continue to help train Pakistan's pilots whenever we're needed," he said.

http://www.f-16.net/news_article4087.html

 

[ANG]

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[fatman17]

F-16 training bolsters U.S.-Pakistan relations

May 4, 2010 (by Maj. Gabe Johnson) - Pakistan's air force soon will upgrade its 30-year-old fleet of F-16 Fighting Falcons, and the pilots charged with flying more capable fighters are ready to handle the new technology after training with the Arizona Air National Guard.

PAF Squadron Leader Azman Khalil, left, goes over flight information with Capt. Andy Wittke, an instructor pilot at the 162nd FW, before a training mission on April 27, 2010. Khalil and seven other Pakistani pilots graduated from F-16C/D upgrade training at Tucson IAP on May 4, 2010. Eight Pakistan Air Force pilots, each experienced in the F-16A/B, recently learned to fly the newer C/D model aircraft at the 162nd Fighter Wing, the international F-16 training unit at Tucson International Airport. They were honored at a graduation ceremony on May 4.

They are the first from their country to train in the United States since 1983 when the last class of Pakistani pilots trained at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz.

"This graduation is historic for U.S.-Pakistan relations," said Pakistan Air Force Wing Commander Ghazanfar Latif, a 12-year F-16A pilot. "For Pakistan, our air force is gaining capabilities that it has needed for the last decade; capabilities that are critical to ongoing operations in Pakistan's war on terror."

The new planes purchased by the Pakistani government, block 52 versions of the multi-role fighter, are far more advanced than the older A-model versions and will allow pilots to conduct operations at night and greatly enhance their use of precision munitions.

The first four of the 18 total purchased are scheduled for delivery June 26 to Shahbaz air base in south-central Pakistan. The rest will be delivered on a staggered schedule throughout this year. In addition, their existing fleet will undergo a mid-life update in 2011 designed to upgrade cockpits and avionics to match the F-16C/D.

In preparation for the June delivery, the eight pilots and their families will have spent 10 months in the United States navigating the upgrade training pipeline.

They spent two and half months reviewing military aviation terminology at the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base, Texas, and seven months in flight training at Tucson International Airport. Since the C/D-models used for training in Tucson are block 25 F-16s, they will next undergo two weeks of additional block 52 instruction before returning to Pakistan.

"Even though they're flying block 25s here, they will still be able to operate their block 52s back home. When they leave here they will get training from Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth, Texas, on the differences," said Lt. Col. Kelly Parkinson, 195th Fighter Squadron commander. "The two blocks fly the same; it's essentially the employment of weapons that makes the difference."

The bulk of their flight training in Tucson included a transition course from the F-16A/B to the F-16C/D, flight lead upgrade training and instructor pilot certification.

"We're training these eight pilots so they can return home and be instructors themselves and teach others to fly the new F-16s," said Colonel Parkinson, a 22-year fighter pilot.

"I think the training here is very well organized and tailored to our needs, also the standards here are very high," said Latif. "This is going to make a big difference because we do not have the capability to make precision engagements at night with A-models. Everybody understands that collateral damage is a big factor and the sensors on the C-model will help us carry out precision engagement and close air support."

With so much to learn, the students flew a rigorous schedule of five flights per week. The average student tempo is closer to three per week.

"The radar, datalink and other avionics help create the big picture of what is going on around you. There's lots of information to process in the C-model, so you have to prioritize all of the input you are getting," said Squadron Leader Yasir Malik. "But these instructors know what they are doing and they are good teachers."

Maj. Windy Hendrick, a flight commander and 13-year F-16 pilot, has instructed students from all over the world. She said she and her fellow instructors learned a great deal about their Pakistani counterparts.

"They are all experienced pilots with 500 to 1,800 fighter hours in the F-16, and the majority of that time is combat hours in the fight against extremists," she said. "They are very humble and don't talk about their experience, but the more we learn about them and all they've done it makes us proud to be their instructors."

"They are very dedicated, hard working and they have great attitudes. Their presence in the squadron has been a real pleasure."

When flying over the military ranges of Southern Arizona, Pakistan's pilots had experienced instructors like Hendrick to guide them; but back on the ground they relied on the unit's international military student office (IMSO) for help with housing, transportation, documentation and adapting to American culture.

"We could not ask for more help from the IMSO office. They came to San Antonio to meet us before we came to Tucson to help us start our move," said Squadron Leader Malik. "They went to see apartments in Tucson to help us find living arrangements, and they set up many trips all over the state. We saw so many places that we would never have found on our own."

"We would have been more confused with trying to find a place to live and get adjusted if it weren't for IMSO."

It's unclear if more student pilots from Pakistan will train in Tucson; however, according to Colonel Parkinson, the 162nd stands ready.

"Training capable fighter pilots for our partner-nation air forces and fostering relationships in the world-wide F-16 community is what we do. We will continue to help train Pakistan's pilots whenever we're needed," he said.

http://www.f-16.net/news_article4087.html

bhai already posted - takes a minute to check the thread before posting!

 

[Windjammer]

Guys, if you enlarge the above image, you can read the names of six of the PAF pilots on the monitor in the back ground.
I can make, A Khalil, S Khan, G Latif, Y Malik, S Masood and Z Munawar.

If i am not wrong, A Khalil (Picture) was part of No 9 Squadron which went to Turkey to participate in Antonio Eagle exercise.

 

[MJaa]

Pakistani air force pilots learned to fly the F-16 Fighting Falcon's newer C- and D-model at 162nd Fighter Wing

 

[AVIAN]

We do need about 20-24 more F16 for our airforce

After that we should just focus on J10B and J11 etc

We need to prehaps upgrade our air defence capabilities from ground

That ask for a lots of money and robust budgeting system in place to line up above inventory for air defence system. As long as Pakistani economy reeling under tremendous pressure till then it is very difficult to see above process to see light of the day.

 

[TaimiKhan]

That ask for a lots of money and robust budgeting system in place to line up above inventory for air defence system. As long as Pakistani economy reeling under tremendous pressure till then it is very difficult to see above process to see light of the day.

Why you Indians are always worrying about our economy or budget ??

Has anyone of you ever seen how much our total budget is and what is the total budget or seen how much room we have to purchase such systems if its extremely urgent, as defence is the priority for every nation when it comes to that.

So you guys, don't worry about our state of economy, we can accommodate such purchases if it comes to that.

 

[AVIAN]

Why you Indians are always worrying about our economy or budget ??

Budget has everything to do with defence planning and war fighting procedures. This is highly relevent in the context of Pak to which Budget has always been an second rival when it comes to its modernization. And yes, same question you need to ask everone on this forum as why does they are worrying about India.

Has anyone of you ever seen how much our total budget is and what is the total budget or seen how much room we have to purchase such systems if its extremely urgent, as defence is the priority for every nation when it comes to that.

So you guys, don't worry about our state of economy, we can accommodate such purchases if it comes to that.

Priorities has always been subject to certain limits. As far as last few years Pak struggle to armed forces modernization is concerned, total budget has always played a vital part slowing down much needed priority to modernize each and every branch.

 

[Usama86]

here is a little something about the budget

Defence budget up by 96pc | Pakistan Daily

Pakistan is facing tremendous pressure in the budget 2009-10 because of the massive hike in defence and security related expenditures. “The Rs 343 billion allocation was originally made for defence which swelled up by about 96 percent to Rs 613 billion, as during Musharraf regime agreement to purchase some aircrafts were inked,” a senior official at Ministry of Finance told.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Budget has everything to do with defence planning and war fighting procedures. This is highly relevent in the context of Pak to which Budget has always been an second rival when it comes to its modernization. And yes, same question you need to ask everone on this forum as why does they are worrying about India.

Pakistani's don't worry about Indian defence budget, as its their business, but yeah when Indian members come here and come up with the lines which you just said, then in a counter attack the Indian defence budget and other Indian issues come to life, but as said they are as a counter. India is growing, so will their budget, good luck to them.

And as said, we have the resource and budget when it comes to that, meaning if something dire is needed.

Priorities has always been subject to certain limits. As far as last few years Pak struggle to armed forces modernization is concerned, total budget has always played a vital part slowing down much needed priority to modernize each and every branch.

Pakistan armed forces modernization plans are going fine, delays are always there, Pakistan facing it is not the first to see them. The unforeseen events of last 2 years, the military operations scale was not expected, but as thing are now coming to normal and major operations have wined down, the modernization would be on the track, plus major weapon systems have been paid for and the modernization plan if till 2019-20, still a decade to go.

Hope the oligarchs start thinking about the country, then hopefully, all the worries would be gone, but whatever the issues we are facing is due to the Oligarchs in power, once they get themselves straight or are thrown out, economy will be on track, so will be the modernization.

 

[zubbuz]

February 16, 2010. Pakistan has urged the US to approve the ... the visit of Senator John Kerry, chairman of the US Senate's Foreign Relations Committee,

 

[farhan_9909]

what is the detection range of Apg 68 radar?