Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[fatman17]

Delivery dates are given once the contract is signed between the manufacturer and end user.

 

[Piper]

Delivery dates are given once the contract is signed between the manufacturer and end user.

New contract in this case or fulfilment of the old one?

Also are the birds coming from the boneyard or are they freshly minted

 

[fitpOsitive]

In my humble opinion what I think about this F16 deal, this move is taken by US to stop Pakistan from opting for Flankers from Russia. F16 is becoming an old stuff, and Pakistan should move towards better options. India is crying because India wants us to believe that F16s are big threat to them, but in reality, India know so much things about shooting down F16s(thanks to Pakistan's love or should I say lust for F16). We are limiting our selves here.
So, the way to Pakistans air defense should not only rely on F16, thats all I want to say. Russia is not that unreliable, at least not more than what USA did to us in 1965 and 1971. Lets find other(better friends for Pakistan). I am not saying that we should go against USA, but see, there may be more and of course better friends.

 

[nomi007]

hope paf will increase its fleet of f-16s upto 100+

 

[Quwa]

New contract in this case or fulfilment of the old one?

Also are the birds coming from the boneyard or are they freshly minted

Brand new. Boneyard planes would come through the Excess Defence Articles (EDA) program and be given structural restoration and the Common Configuration Implementation Program (CCIP), which equips the used F-16C/Ds with the same electronics as a Block-52+. The total cost for such a program would be half of what the price the PAF agreed to for the new Block-52+.

 

[Paksanity]

New contract in this case or fulfilment of the old one?

Also are the birds coming from the boneyard or are they freshly minted

Folks at Fort Worth ain't going out of work any time soon. Cheers to that mate

 

[Piper]

Folks at Fort Worth ain't going out of work any time soon. Cheers to that mate

That is one of the single biggest case for Pakistan having continued access to F-16 Jets notwithstanding Indian opposition. Congress would always make way for Pakistan if it means their constituents keep their job no matter how much India lobbies in senate and congress.

 

[Tehmasib]

If US sanctions again on this deal !!!! I sure nothing serious for PAF (futuristic thought)

 

[Paksanity]

That is one of the single biggest case for Pakistan having continued access to F-16 Jets notwithstanding Indian opposition. Congress would always make way for Pakistan if it means their constituents keep their job no matter how much India lobbies in senate and congress.

Yup. Our embassy hasn't been very good at driving such points home. Word has it that Pakistan will order more new ones thus creating / sustaining more US jobs. On a non defence side G.E. has got some good business from Pakistan recently. They are manufacturing 55 locomotives for our railways with likely more to follow. There will be a lot of appetite for locomotives as rail lines will extend from Gawadar port to China and from coal deposits in Thar to power plants across Pakistan. G.E. has just finished building first of 9HA gas turbine for Pakistan. 9HA is world's largest gas turbine and first of its kind to be installed at Bhikki power plant in Pakistan. Just look at the size of this thing They Might Be Giants: The World’s Largest Gas Turbines Will Light Up Pakistan - GE Reports

Upcoming wind energy farms will also use G.E. turbines and I believe deal has been signed. G.E. has gained some good business in Pakistan recently and future looks good too as Pakistan is spending on power generation and infrastructure where G.E. is a specialist. Our diplomats should emphasise this aspect to Americans. Our dealing with US not only works in favour of global US interests but also creates jobs and wealth for common Americans.

 

[khanasifm]

Not sure how current this info is but year worth of production backlog (2016 18 ) @ rate of 1-2 aircraft unless additional orders are placed , PAF 8 are not part of backlog i assume

F-16 Fleet Reports - F-16 aircraft orders

2014 news
Approximately 40 new-build Block 50 aircraft are in the backlog, in theory extending production to 2017.
Rival F-16 Upgrades Proceed; Iraq Delivery May Not | Defense News: Aviation International News

An investor's introduction to Lockheed Martin Corporation - Market Realist

 

[mingle]

That is one of the single biggest case for Pakistan having continued access to F-16 Jets notwithstanding Indian opposition. Congress would always make way for Pakistan if it means their constituents keep their job no matter how much India lobbies in senate and congress.

I think we will go original numbers that been planned before earthquick 2005 that 56 to 75 new ones so with these 8 it gonna be 26 new ones look another order down the road for these beautiful birds .jorden is also looking 15 jets newly built so LM will keep these lines opens another 5 yrs or so .i must say PAF romance with these jets will never end .

 

[fatman17]

New contract in this case or fulfilment of the old one?

Also are the birds coming from the boneyard or are they freshly minted

New

 

[ghazi52]

Nice development....................

 

[IrbiS]

Good news!


Sadly a confirmation too that NO AESA should be expected.

 

[spirit rider]

can some body share the technical specs of sniper targeting pod (for pakistani version as well as the top of the line one). thank you