Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[The Great One]

We understand your admiration for the Block-52s but these will not fight your war and save you.

Well, at least we will know exactly how to fight what is your only worthwhile opposition. Must be pretty heart-breaking though isn't it? To see your enemy knowing full secrets of your most potent weapon.

 

[IrbiS]

Well, at least we will know exactly how to fight what is your only worthwhile opposition. Must be pretty heart-breaking though isn't it? To see your enemy knowing full secrets of your most potent weapon.

You just KNOW about F-16 ? Our guys are flying Sushka, Mirage

 

[Max Pain]

why

why would they permanantly stay in Wesh Bengal?

 

[Windjammer]

Well, at least we will know exactly how to fight what is your only worthwhile opposition. Must be pretty heart-breaking though isn't it? To see your enemy knowing full secrets of your most potent weapon.

A person who knows how to ride a motorcycle will have no problem riding a bicycle but it's not easy for a cyclist to jump on a motorcycle and do the same. Hope you get the drift.
Apart from a couple of PAF pilots attached to PLAAF SU-30 Squadrons, likewise these pictures should also rattle your heart.

PAF Pilots On Sukhoi's Su-30 Flanker Fighter Jet - ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS

 

[The Great One]

A person who knows how to ride a motorcycle will have no problem riding a bicycle but it's not easy for a cyclist to jump on a motorcycle and do the same. Hope you get the drift.

We don't need to learn how to ride a motorbike, we only need to know how you are going to do it, so we can counter it.
And please, IAF pilots have been praised world over for their professionalism even in that infamous video by 'Youtube Terry'. We beat their asses in Cope '05 and we beat their asses in RF '08 (unlike what the video said) Your PAF pilots are nothing special outside of your collectively delusional brains.

Apart from a couple of PAF pilots attached to PLAAF SU-30 Squadrons, likewise these pictures should also rattle your heart.

Not at all. In fact they make me happy. MKI and MKK have completely different Radars, Power-plants, Control Surfaces, Electronics, EW suites etc. Russians rate them half as good as ours and even they don't know all about the Israeli, Indian and French systems on board. I want PAF to be as delusional and incompetent as you, so as to form their tactics on the basis of MKK.

PAF's poor F-16 C/D's OTOH, we know everything bout its jammers, radar freqencies, sortie generation rate etc. Even if we didn't, our fleet of MKI's is far superior to it anyway.

why would they permanantly stay in Wesh Bengal?

Singapore is a tiny city-state. They have very limited airspace so they have to rely on friendly states like India and Australia to train them. Not to mention if Singapore was attacked pre-emptively, they could lose their entire fleet in a single blow. Having their fighters around in rather strong countries who the aggressor is not gonna want to drag into war, ensures that some of their fleet would survive for payback.

 

[Windjammer]

[QUOTE="The Great One, post: 7220752, member: 138274"We don't need to learn how to ride a motorbike, we only need to know how you are going to do it, so we can counter it.
And please, IAF pilots have been praised world over for their professionalism even in that infamous video by 'Youtube Terry'. We beat their asses in Cope '05 and we beat their asses in RF '08 (unlike what the video said) Your PAF pilots are nothing special outside of your collectively delusional brains.[/quote]
The highlighted part proves that you are just a fan boy material who has no clues about aerial warfare. So you exercise with Singapore's jets but think you can learn PAF combat and tactics. And you really think your Indian pilots are worth something when in all their history, the only time they managed to perform was in Kargil..... only because there was no air opposition since they were conducting sorties on their side of LOC,...as i said your tiny ego is forcing you to box above your weight.

Not at all. In fact they make me happy. MKI and MKK have completely different Radars, Power-plants, Control Surfaces, Electronics, EW suites etc. Russians rate them half as good as ours and even they don't know all about the Israeli, Indian and French systems on board. I want PAF to be as delusional and incompetent as you, so as to form their tactics on the basis of MKK.

Delusional and incompetent indeed that you are who has to brag about an aircraft that IAF had to ground three times and doesn't have a single kill to it's name and got whacked so badly in Indradanush that IAF decided to keep it's mouth shut until it got exposed by the other party.

PAF's poor F-16 C/D's OTOH, we know everything bout its jammers, radar freqencies, sortie generation rate etc. Even if we didn't, our fleet of MKI's is far superior to it anyway.

Try to convince yourself by calling it poor, while earlier you were gloating on finding out it's capabilities.
Here we are talking about IAF which doesn't have the confidence to fly single engine over the parade venue....much less it has the ability to put up a fight. Just enjoy the Cobra manoeuvre and wonder where's the actual fire in Agni Pankh.

 

[The Great One]

The highlighted part proves that you are just a fan boy material who has no clues about aerial warfare. So you exercise with Singapore's jets but think you can learn PAF combat and tactics. And you really think your Indian pilots are worth something when in all their history, the only time they managed to perform was in Kargil..... only because there was no air opposition since they were conducting sorties on their side of LOC,...as i said your tiny ego is forcing you to box above your weight.

Delusional and incompetent indeed that you are who has to brag about an aircraft that IAF had to ground three times and doesn't have a single kill to it's name and got whacked so badly in Indradanush that IAF decided to keep it's mouth shut until it got exposed by the other party.

Try to convince yourself by calling it poor, while earlier you were gloating on finding out it's capabilities.
Here we are talking about which doesn't have the confidence to fly single engine over the parade venue....much less it has the ability to put up a fight. Just enjoy the Cobra manoeuvre and wonder where's the actual fire in Agni Pankh.

All I see is a whole lot of blah blah.
Not a single legible argument here. Seeing your posting history, its not surprising of course.

 

[Windjammer]

All I see is a whole lot of blah blah.
Not a single legible argument here. Seeing your posting history, its not surprising of course.

How did you like the taste of your own medicine or you just simply lost for words.
First acquire the ability for a legit argument, taking cheap shots is a double edge sword, it may satisfy your ego but be prepared for your bubble to burst.

 

[Windjammer]

Right. More anonymous blatter like the 3-0

BTW in the very next para

During the Typhoon's visit to the US in 2005 it was pitted against the F-22, this was not officially confirmed. The Typhoon could not see the F-22 but could detect that it was being painted by the F-22 and took "appropriate" measures with defensive aids. In one on one combat the Typhoon did the same job as on the Su-30, the F-22 could not handle the Typhoons close in and were shocked. It did not go all the Typhoon's way but the Americans had a sobering encounter, with the F-22 sacrificing much for stealth

Yup, anything from a reputable source is anonymous since it exposes the mighty IAF but chest thumping by some internet warrior is the gospel truth....
Did you miss this........

More recently, there have been repeated reports that two RAF Typhoons deployed to the USA for OEU trails work have been flying against the F-22 at NAS China Lake, and have performed better than was expected. There was little surprise that Typhoon, with its world-class agility and high off-boresight missile capability was able to dominate "Within Visual Range" flight, but the aircraft did cause a surprise by getting a radar lock on the F22 at a suprisingly long range. The F-22s cried off, claiming that they were "unstealthed" anyway, although the next day´s scheduled two vs. two BWR engagement was canceled, and "the USAF decided they didn´t want to play any more .

- When this incident was reported on a website frequented by front-line RAF aircrew a senior RAF officer urged an end to the converstaion on security grounds.

 

[pkd]

Floaing of MMRCA Tender clearly suggests that India do not have as much confidence in MKI as is being bragged.

 

[fatman17]

We don't need to learn how to ride a motorbike, we only need to know how you are going to do it, so we can counter it.
And please, IAF pilots have been praised world over for their professionalism even in that infamous video by 'Youtube Terry'. We beat their asses in Cope '05 and we beat their asses in RF '08 (unlike what the video said) Your PAF pilots are nothing special outside of your collectively delusional brains.

Not at all. In fact they make me happy. MKI and MKK have completely different Radars, Power-plants, Control Surfaces, Electronics, EW suites etc. Russians rate them half as good as ours and even they don't know all about the Israeli, Indian and French systems on board. I want PAF to be as delusional and incompetent as you, so as to form their tactics on the basis of MKK.

PAF's poor F-16 C/D's OTOH, we know everything bout its jammers, radar freqencies, sortie generation rate etc. Even if we didn't, our fleet of MKI's is far superior to it anyway.


Singapore is a tiny city-state. They have very limited airspace so they have to rely on friendly states like India and Australia to train them. Not to mention if Singapore was attacked pre-emptively, they could lose their entire fleet in a single blow. Having their fighters around in rather strong countries who the aggressor is not gonna want to drag into war, ensures that some of their fleet would survive for payback.

Hopefully the IAF has overcome it's spares and maintenance issues to do such.

 

[nomi007]

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Name Gr.Capt. Aamir Masood

Unit 9th squadron "Griffins"
Flying F-16s
Viper Hours 3000
Currently flying Su-30MK1 for the Chinese Navy.

2006: Commanding Officer of 9 sqn.

Born in 1966, Group Captain Aamir Masood, joined PAF at an early age.

He took his commission in the PAF as a pilot of F-16 fighter aircraft in 1988, and until today has served in the PAF. The Government of Pakistan awarded him the Sitara-e-Basalat (Star of Good Conduct), the Tamgha-e-Imtiaz (medal of excellence), the Tamgha-e-Istaqlal, the Jumahuriat Tamgha, the Nuclear test Medal, the Resolution Day Golden Jubilee medal and the Independence Day Golden Jubilee medal for his achievements and abilities.
He reached 1000 flying hours in 1997, and 2000 flying hours in 2006; he also surpassed 2000 flying hours on the F-16 Fighting Falcon, and will soon reach 3000 flying hours. He is one of the few pilots of the Pakistan Air Force that have flown the Sukhoi Su-30 Mk I with the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy.
He was the Commanding Officer of the multi-role squadron of the Pakistan Air Force, the "Griffins".

 

[Thorough Pro]

where is the picture?

Typhoon Zappers.

Finally, after some persuading, a source found and sent me the contingent picture just before their departure for Antonio Eagle deployment. These are the one's who OWNED the Typhoons back in 2008 fleecing them 3 out of 3 in air combat!

 

[Windjammer]

where is the picture?

For some reason, many of the images i upload seem to get deleted.
That picture was with all the ground crew, here's one just of the pilots who scored against the Typhoon.

 

[fatman17]

Lethal weapon