Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[DrSomnath999]

Yes

PAF-f16 block 52 indeed has DRFM jammers
intial variant didnt but later they bought it

Turkey 's upgraded F16 also has DRFM jammer
SOURCE

According to his statement, the MLU upgrade kits included: Northrop Grumman APG-68(V)9 radars; Embedded GPS/INS (EGI); Link 16 datalink; APX-113 Advanced Identify Friend or Foe (AIFF); Color Cockpit with Color Moving Map; ALQ- 211(V)9 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite (AIDEWS) pod; Night Vision Imaging System (NVIS) Cockpit and External Lighting; Sniper Advanced Targeting Pod; Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS); reconnaissance pod capability; improved avionics systems; JDAM capability; EGBU capability; AIM-120 AMRAAM capability; and AGM-84 Harpoon capability.

TAI completes Pakistan F-16 fleet mid-life upgrade - IHS Jane's 360
Detail info about that pod here
it states DRFM jamming
http://www.exelisinc.com/solutions/AIDEWS/Documents/ITT-Exelis-AIDEWS-Brochure.pdf

sadly
I didnt find no where Passive MAWS in F16
any one with any info on that plz highlight


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[DrSomnath999]

@Bratva
thanks for answering

but do you claim that this deal has been blocked by US senate

ITT Exelis awarded $54 million contract for international electronic warfare defensive system

is this true??

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[Bratva]

@Bratva
thanks for answering

but do you claim that this deal has been blocked by US senate

ITT Exelis awarded $54 million contract for international electronic warfare defensive system

is this true??

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Not blocked but 36 AIDEWS without DRFM was delivered. But it seems there are further deliveries of AIDEWS which are with DRFM and might have circumvent American senate somehow

 

[HRK]

View attachment 97282 aim-120c

Russian AGAT has developed a special reduced version 9B-1103M viewfinder, which can fit into the small missiles. Marked as 9B-1103M-150, the new system has an antenna diameter of 150 mm. Representative AGAT's said that the new radar guidance system developed on the basis of the special requirements for foreign buyers who he refused to name (most likely China)

http://www.hrvatski-vojnik.hr/hrvatski-vojnik/2332009/zrak_zrak.asp

Agat's 9B-1103M-150 active radar guided seeker is a repackaged derivative of the 9B-1348/9B-1103M seeker family originally developed for the R-77 RVV-AE and R-27EA. It has been reduced in diameter to fit the R-73/74 Archer family of missiles, at some expense in acquisition range due to the ~2.5 dB reduction in antenna gain. It weights 8 kg and can acquire a 5 m2 target at 7 nautical miles (Agat).

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plz check again this is Agat's 9B-1103M-150, not the radar seeker for aim-120c

 

[Donatello]

I would prefer to believe official word. If something blocked by senate made it through, there would have been a shyte storm at capitol hill.

It was discussed here on this thread. You'll have to really dig it up. At first it was believed that DRFM was not allowed, but later it was allowed.

 

[Bratva]

It was discussed here on this thread. You'll have to really dig it up. At first it was believed that DRFM was not allowed, but later it was allowed.

It was a discussion b/w me and oscar. It's a word of mouth that it was allowed. No concrete evidence that it was actually allowed

 

[Donatello]

It was a discussion b/w me and oscar. It's a word of mouth that it was allowed. No concrete evidence that it was actually allowed

Yup i think so. The best bet would be to ask PAF officials. I am not sure why USA would keep back DRFM, when they are offering the latest BLK52s to PAF. DRFM is less of a threat than AIM120 which were exclusively negotiated. Otherwise PAF would have gone for Euro canards altogether. The recent ex-Jordanian F-16s didn't have public approval either. It was passed quietly.

 

[VCheng]

Yup i think so. The best bet would be to ask PAF officials. I am not sure why USA would keep back DRFM, when they are offering the latest BLK52s to PAF. DRFM is less of a threat than AIM120 which were exclusively negotiated. Otherwise PAF would have gone for Euro canards altogether. The recent ex-Jordanian F-16s didn't have public approval either. It was passed quietly.

The ex-Jordanian F-16s were allowed to pass to Pakistan under the President's authority for the WoT granted by Congress as part of the deal for NWA action.

 

[Donatello]

The ex-Jordanian F-16s were allowed to pass to Pakistan under the President's authority for the WoT granted by Congress as part of the deal for NWA action.

Could have been the same for DRFM.

 

[VCheng]

Could have been the same for DRFM.

Yes, that mechanism could have been used as well, but the President chose not to do so, keeping in view the counsel received.

 

[fatman17]

Not blocked but 36 AIDEWS without DRFM was delivered. But it seems there are further deliveries of AIDEWS which are with DRFM and might have circumvent American senate somehow

not possible to byepass congress. additionals were also approved. no need for sensationalism.

The ex-Jordanian F-16s were allowed to pass to Pakistan under the President's authority for the WoT granted by Congress as part of the deal for NWA action.

no in such cases only state deptt and LM NOC's are required. ex-RJAF jets are / were jordanian property.

The ex-Jordanian F-16s were allowed to pass to Pakistan under the President's authority for the WoT granted by Congress as part of the deal for NWA action.

more sensationalism. the US owed us 14 F-16s from the Bush admn area approved by congress.

 

[redgriffin]

I would prefer to believe official word. If something blocked by senate made it through, there would have been a shyte storm at capitol hill.

DRFM came through later. You can search post sale contracts for additions. I remember a DSCA notification posted on Pakdef wrt EW systems. A member over there who works with such tech saw the specs & language & posted that it was DRFM. Others concurrred with him. I also showed the notification to a (now retd) PAF officer I know (an eng) seconded that it was indeed DRFM. This notification was issued in 2011/12 iirc.

 

[VCheng]

no in such cases only state deptt and LM NOC's are required. ex-RJAF jets are / were jordanian property.



more sensationalism. the US owed us 14 F-16s from the Bush admn area approved by congress.

Where do you think the State Department gets its approvals from, Sir? There is no sensationalism in what I have stated. Pakistan has the ex-RJAF F-16s as part of the package with Presidential approval for aiding the War on Terror.

 

[Najam Khan]

Mix photos of F-16 MLU, ADF and original airframes.

 

[slapshot]

Not Pakistani F-16 but amazing demonstration with full throttle, afterburners and flares at sunset

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