Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[VelocuR]

You need drivers to run these avionics and chips which is Programming language. Pakistan is very expertise in this field, and you know our programmers used C++ language in JF17 with millions of codes and instructions. There are many programmers in Pakistan.. Yes Pakistan need expertise in hardware field specially with avionics system hardware components.

Yes, we can. I know, the current development in JF-17 avionics and still long way to go.

you mean us can track our f16 what a relife so can tell indian even before we take off our pilots how can they fly in this junk

Yes likely. US is now favor India alliance over Pakistan. It is game change today. US gave F-16s specificiations for Pakistan to use against terrorists in WOT, not providing Apache helicopters.

NO KILLER SWITCH on new F16 says COAS

COAS has numerous lies in his mouth, he didn't explain the truth. Newer F-16 Block 50+ is still with the most advanced chip virus and jammed system.

Pakistan's F-16 missile couldn't fire at Stealth helicopters after OBL raid, the systems was totally blocked. And during NATO helicopters attacked thousand Pakistani soldiers(specific 25-28 dead) on checkposts, there was no response from PAF within 2-5 hours.

COAS Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani said that restoration of NATO’S supply would be decided by Parliament.


While talking to the media in Jaccobabad, he said that this is wrong impression that Pakistani fighter jets are unable to hit the NATO plans.

He said that F-16 jets would be seldom used in war on terror, adding that restoration of NATO supply would be decided by the Parliament.
Dunya News: Pakistanarliament will decide NATO supply restoration: CO...

Do you know what is identification friend or foe (IFF) system in F-16 systems which unable to fire at US, its alliance NATO and others?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-air-force/131900-f16-no-good-against-us-air-force.html

Pakistan happy to purchase this, oh wait, 14 more fighters and corruptions behind curtains.....

 

[proindian]

Pakistan received F-16 Block 52 C
February 6, 2012 Air Forces Tech, All, Military Tech No comments



A fleet of four F16 aircrafts provided by the US have officially been introduced into Pakistan Air Force today in a ceremonial at the Shahbaz Airbase. One of them was the latest model of F-16 Block 52.

The three F-16s are part of a batch of 18 aircrafts to be given to the Pakistan Air Force by the end of the year.

The following ceremonial was presided by, Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, US Air Chief General Schwartz, US ambassador to Pakistan Anne Patterson and other senior civil and military officials.

This imported fleet will indeed strengthen the Pakistan Air Force fleet. The Ambassador Anne Patterson said the US is escalating collaboration with Pakistan in the financial and power segments as well.

The second phase of consignment will add five F-16 Block 52 C fighter jets and would be complete within a period of month and a half.



“The jet fighters were flown from the US to Jacobabad by Pakistan Air Force pilots, who had recently completed training on the new aircraft in the US,” Air Commodore Tariq Qamar Yazdanie told The Express Tribune. Air Marshal Muhammad Hasan, Deputy Chief of the Air Staff (Operations), Air Marshal Waseemud Din, Deputy Chief of the Air Staff (Administration), along with other senior Pakistan Air Force (PAF) officials, received the jets.



The most recent Fighting Falcons rolling off the Lockheed Martin’s manufacture line in Fort Worth, Texas, are superior Block 50/52 and recently, Block 60 editions. These fabrication series symbolize the largest design change in the F-16 history, offering supplementary fuel and payload ability, new or better avionics and sensors, color cockpit displays with enhanced pilot/vehicle interfaces. Nine countries have already ordered Advanced Block 50/52/60 F-16s, counting the Greece, Israel, UAE, Chile, Pakistan and Poland.


The F-16 Block 52 that arrived Pakistan today also carries the Westinghouse AN/APG-68 V (5) radar, which provides longer range recognition against air targets and superior dependability. The radar has a programmable signal central processing unit that utilizes very high-speed integrated circuit (VHSIC) technology. The next consignment will be definitely beneficial for Pakistan.

Here are exclusive pictures of PAF F-16 block 52 induction ceremonial.













Pakistan received F-16 Block 52 C | The Techlusion

 

[mirage 5000]

 

[ziaulislam]

Yes, we can. I know, the current development in JF-17 avionics and still long way to go.



Yes likely. US is now favor India alliance over Pakistan. It is game change today. US gave F-16s specificiations for Pakistan to use against terrorists in WOT, not providing Apache helicopters.



COAS has numerous lies in his mouth, he didn't explain the truth. Newer F-16 Block 50+ is still with the most advanced chip virus and jammed system.

Pakistan's F-16 missile couldn't fire at Stealth helicopters after OBL raid, the systems was totally blocked. And during NATO helicopters attacked thousand Pakistani soldiers(specific 25-28 dead) on checkposts, there was no response from PAF within 2-5 hours.



Do you know what is identification friend or foe (IFF) system in F-16 systems which unable to fire at US, its alliance NATO and others?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-air-force/131900-f16-no-good-against-us-air-force.html

Pakistan happy to purchase this, oh wait, 14 more fighters and corruptions behind curtains.....

Pakistan mostly uses f-7pg and thunder for INTERCEPTION, it has numerous chinese origin land base radars and hell it atleast could have easily shoot the chopper down on its way back BUT it had no intention to do so.
point is the whole rumor is wrong regarding f-16 couldn't shot the chopper because i doubt it would have been sent there in first place.

reason for using thunder/f-7pg for interception is there quick response time

 

[nomi007]

f-16 is a great jet
world most rlaiable jet
last jalsa of defahe pakistan in lahore against usa also show f-16
in their poster
we need more f-16s peoples who are against this are so innocent
they don't have any alternative
j-10b still in test field not available before 2015
j-2x(stealth version of j-20) will be available after 2018
jf-17 block 2 will be 2014
honestly jf-17 cannot attack deep in side India
only f-16s have ability and old but up gradated are available
think practically before our conditions are like Iranian air force who have no such a good plans for future
i m in favor in pak-us relations
because after 2020 we can get f-35
and paf also interested in that beast

 

[nomi007]

Wikipedia shows that now we have 100 f-16s is his true?

 

[soul hacker]

f-16 is a great jet
world most rlaiable jet
last jalsa of defahe pakistan in lahore against usa also show f-16
in their poster
we need more f-16s peoples who are against this are so innocent
they don't have any alternative
j-10b still in test field not available before 2015
j-2x(stealth version of j-20) will be available after 2018
jf-17 block 2 will be 2014
honestly jf-17 cannot attack deep in side India
only f-16s have ability and old but up gradated are available
think practically before our conditions are like Iranian air force who have no such a good plans for future
i m in favor in pak-us relations
because after 2020 we can get f-35
and paf also interested in that beast

Inshallah after 2020 we will no further dependent on foreign equipment in terms of millitary, WE WILL HAVE OUR OWN 5 GENERATION JET

 

[air marshal]

 

[truthseeker2010]

Is the ACM still qualifies to fly the F-16, I mean his eyesight is not weak?

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Yes, we can. I know, the current development in JF-17 avionics and still long way to go.



Yes likely. US is now favor India alliance over Pakistan. It is game change today. US gave F-16s specificiations for Pakistan to use against terrorists in WOT, not providing Apache helicopters.



COAS has numerous lies in his mouth, he didn't explain the truth. Newer F-16 Block 50+ is still with the most advanced chip virus and jammed system.

Pakistan's F-16 missile couldn't fire at Stealth helicopters after OBL raid, the systems was totally blocked. And during NATO helicopters attacked thousand Pakistani soldiers(specific 25-28 dead) on checkposts, there was no response from PAF within 2-5 hours.



Do you know what is identification friend or foe (IFF) system in F-16 systems which unable to fire at US, its alliance NATO and others?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-air-force/131900-f16-no-good-against-us-air-force.html

Pakistan happy to purchase this, oh wait, 14 more fighters and corruptions behind curtains.....

My friend the so called "Killer Switch" technology is not there as yet. Just recently, USAF has floated an RFP for the technology.

As far as IFF is concerned. It is the user who defines the IFF parameters and not the mfg.

And furthermore, anytime a weapon system manufactured by someone else is sold to other than to the country listed in the original End User Certificate, one has to get an NOC from the manufaturing country. It is not the same as selling hammers!

You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee. It seems like in our eagerness to play down the importance of F-16 to the mission capability of PAF, we are comming up with hair brianed schemes and solutions that just do not exists.

BTW, any equipment using GPS as a triangulation method can be reverse triangulated. There is nothing new in that. If the J-10's will carry this than they can also be located by the sattellite it is using for triangulation.

 

[[--Leo--]]

Wikipedia shows that now we have 100 f-16s is his true?

41+4+18+14 = 77 F-16 That is True

 

[SQ8]

Is the ACM still qualifies to fly the F-16, I mean his eyesight is not weak?

Backseat driver.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Current Army Chief & Air Chief seem to be very close, i think i have not seen such a relationship in the past.

And this is a good thing, the Air Chief should be close to Naval chief too, since Air force is gonna give air cover to naval assets also.

A good relation should exist between all the chief and mutual officer exchanges should have as it reduces inter service jealously / differences.

 

[soul hacker]

My friend the so called "Killer Switch" technology is not there as yet. Just recently, USAF has floated an RFP for the technology.

As far as IFF is concerned. It is the user who defines the IFF parameters and not the mfg.

And furthermore, anytime a weapon system manufactured by someone else is sold to other than to the country listed in the original End User Certificate, one has to get an NOC from the manufaturing country. It is not the same as selling hammers!

You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee. It seems like in our eagerness to play down the importance of F-16 to the mission capability of PAF, we are comming up with hair brianed schemes and solutions that just do not exists.

BTW, any equipment using GPS as a triangulation method can be reverse triangulated. There is nothing new in that. If the J-10's will carry this than they can also be located by the sattellite it is using for triangulation.

USAF has floated an RFP for the technology. some one elaborate a litlle bit

 

[Sapper]

My friend the so called "Killer Switch" technology is not there as yet. Just recently, USAF has floated an RFP for the technology.
As far as IFF is concerned. It is the user who defines the IFF parameters and not the mfg.

BTW, any equipment using GPS as a triangulation method can be reverse triangulated. There is nothing new in that. If the J-10's will carry this than they can also be located by the sattellite it is using for triangulation.

Dear,

Little Correction required here.

1. GPS cannot be reverse triangulated, It is One-Way Radio transmission only.
2. Kill switch & and IFF is a very security sensitive issue, and yes, there is some hanky panky in this, but not in the way most users percieve it, its complicated, and some things are better left to professionals to sort out themselves.

Regards,
Sapper