Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[GriffinsRule]

- BREAKING NEWS -​

US government clears F-16 sale for PAF

...& no, its not Pakistan. You'd get the feeling that at this point the US would sell F-16's to North Korea before they'd deal with Pakistan.

Desperately trying to win them over so they can get them on their anti- China bandwagon.

 

[Trailer23]

Desperately trying to win them over so they can get them on their anti- China bandwagon.

Duterte's term is probably coming to end 'cause I recall his rhetoric against the Vipers a few years back when Trump was still in Office.

Source: Philippine president says buying US F-16 jets ‘utterly useless’

 

[Sayfullah]

As to the JFT, their AESA will require Chinese pwrmission and help.

Is Pakistan working on a indigenous AESA radar?

indegenous BVR missile in the pipeworks and should be integrated on to JFT.

This is part of project Azm right? I heard it’s a bvr and wvr and sam system

 

[Xone]

Is Pakistan working on a indigenous AESA radar?

PAC will make KLJ7A here So It will have all it needs to integrate whatever weapons PAF requires with JF17B3. Even PAC can AMRAAM with it. whence it gets access to its codes.

 

[MIRauf]

PAC will make KLJ7A here So It will have all it needs to integrate whatever weapons PAF requires with JF17B3. Even PAC can AMRAAM with it. whence it gets access to its codes.

So like, never ? or by that time AIM-120xyz be in same cat. as AIM-7's are today.

PS: There was a rumor on or about PAC Avionics Div. working on home grown AESA solution ( even if it's for AZM Project. )

 

[PanzerKiel]

PS: There was a rumor on or about PAC Avionics Div. working on home grown AESA solution ( even if it's for AZM Project. )

Its already in its....i must say....veryyyyyy advanced stage.

 

[araz]

Is Pakistan working on a indigenous AESA radar?

This is part of project Azm right? I heard it’s a bvr and wvr and sam system

As to the first part we are looking at asembling the Chinese AESA radar in house. What happens next remains to be seen. As to the later we currently have no open sourced info of the scope of the project so do not know what is being planned
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PAC will make KLJ7A here So It will have all it needs to integrate whatever weapons PAF requires with JF17B3. Even PAC can AMRAAM with it. whence it gets access to its codes.

AMRAAM integration requires source codes of the missiles and the US is unlikely to give you those. If they are generous enough then yes it maybe possible.
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[Scorpiooo]

Perhaps it will come back if the PAF requests and provides some funding. The longest range missile (with the best probability of a hit) that can fit on the JF-17 should be a goal. The “PL-21” could yet be that missile. Also would be a psychological answer (for both sides) to the Meteor.

Jf17 having PL21 or something similar (other long range missile) has very less chances , as PLAAF public info integrated PL21 and tested on flankers and may be on J20 but not on J10, so they will be integrated on heavyweight fighters most probably

But if we get them for f-16s we won’t need to go for us amraams we can buy Turkish missiles and it’ll be equal to us aim120d. If we get Turkish som for f-16s it’ll give them ability to launch cruise missiles for ground attack and anti ship.
We’ll be less reliant on usa for our f-16s and can use them to their full potential.
We should also get those for jf-17. If we can integrate it on f-16s then we’ll have missiles that can work on both f-16s and jf-17s making logistics easier too. If we order enough maybe turks can give us ToT as well

Turkish cant modify anything without American permission

 

[Scorpiooo]

Its already in its....i must say....veryyyyyy advanced stage.

WVR or BVR solution?

 

[FuturePAF]

Jf17 having PL21 or something similar (other long range missile) has very less chances , as PLAAF public info integrated PL21 and tested on flankers and may be on J20 but not on J10, so they will be integrated on heavyweight fighters most probably

The Meteor can fit on the Gripen, why can’t a similarly sized PL-21 fit on the JF-17?

- BREAKING NEWS -​

US government clears F-16 sale for PAF

...& no, its not Pakistan. You'd get the feeling that at this point the US would sell F-16's to North Korea before they'd deal with Pakistan.

Philippines, Poland, even Paraguay and Peru. Heck maybe even the Papua New Guinean Air Force before the Pakistani Air Force

 

[Scorpiooo]

The Meteor can fit on the Gripen, why can’t a similarly sized PL-21 fit on the JF-17?

I am not expert at all, but IMO, Girpen have powerful engine then JfT, Secondly Meteor is of similar class of PL 15 and PL 21 wss larger weight and range missile then PL15

 

[FuturePAF]

I am not expert at all, but IMO, Girpen have powerful engine then JfT, Secondly Meteor is of similar class of PL 15 and PL 21 wss larger weight and range missile then PL15

In that case we should work with China to start developing a ducted throttlable version of the PL-15 Missile, in a size similar to the Meteor, in anticipation for a more powerful WS-19 engine in a few years.

 

[Scorpiooo]

In that case we should work with China to start developing a ducted throttlable version of the PL-15 Missile, in a size similar to the Meteor, in anticipation for a more powerful WS-19 engine in a few years.

There are already some rumors for existence of PL 17 project that fall between PL 15 and PL 21

 

[mingle]

- BREAKING NEWS -​

US government clears F-16 sale for PAF

...& no, its not Pakistan. You'd get the feeling that at this point the US would sell F-16's to North Korea before they'd deal with Pakistan.

Thanks my heart broke into 4 pieces two atria & two ventricle
Asi Hon Na hi samjaye

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

$2.43 b for 12 F-16 Block-72. Seriously, what are they loading into these contracts? These DSCA figures have got to be inflated for Congress buy-in -- I can't see how an actual contract could total to $200+ m per F-16 in a 5-year term, or even 10-year term. @SQ8