Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Windjammer]

 

[Talon]

Damn, has it kicked off.....not even seen a blip on the twitter or otherwise.

Entered into its second week man.I have a few friends participating,got some videos as well.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

How strict are T&C's of F-16s??? Or are they just to prevent proliferation of US tech to China???
@Windjammer @Hodor @The Eagle

 

[The Eagle]

Or are they just to prevent proliferation of US tech to China?

This is already known or disclosed observation. Americans are already here in regard to security & maintenance and PAF never had any issue having no ambition to jeopardize our own security & operations. But, if you mean by possible T&Cs for alleged Block-70 then my friend, no one knows as such or even does so, wouldn't talk about.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

This is already known or disclosed observation. Americans are already here in regard to security & maintenance and PAF never had any issue having no ambition to jeopardize our own security & operations. But, if you mean by possible T&Cs for alleged Block-70 then my friend, no one knows as such or even does so, wouldn't talk about.

No I am talking about the claims about PAF not allowed to use F-16s against India.

 

[The Eagle]

No I am talking about the claims about PAF not allowed to use F-16s against India.

I can't say about others but I have summarized on subject for many times and in-fact many seniors did so. So to conclude an answer about such claims, either you need to ask any sane Indian or read threads in regard to 27th Feb, be it F-16s usage or the so-called kill switch etc.

 

[Talon]

No I am talking about the claims about PAF not allowed to use F-16s against India.

No such clause.The only clause in my knowledge is that Blk 52s (only) cannot be used for any action outside pakistani airspace, within pakistani airspace they can be used against anyone.No such clause for other blocks and they can be used against anyone and anywhere.
P.s This is not very reliable information but for sure there's no such clause of not using F16s against India.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

No such clause.The only clause in my knowledge is that Blk 52s (only) cannot be used for any action outside pakistani airspace, within pakistani airspace they can be used against anyone.No such clause for other blocks and they can be used against anyone and anywhere.
P.s This is not very reliable information but for sure there's no such clause of not using F16s against India.

But what if in a war they have to cross the border???

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

But what if in a war they have to cross the border???

In 1965 and 1971 the US sanctioned Pakistan, so if the US decides to embargo Pakistan and deny it access to spare parts and additional aircraft in war (100% certain), then the PAF will exercise full discretion.

 

[khanasifm]

No such clause.The only clause in my knowledge is that Blk 52s (only) cannot be used for any action outside pakistani airspace, within pakistani airspace they can be used against anyone.No such clause for other blocks and they can be used against anyone and anywhere.
P.s This is not very reliable information but for sure there's no such clause of not using F16s against India.

Paf chief interview there are no restriction which means paf can use them for any role or operations

As far as restriction/ embargo / ban/sanctions etc. they can place it with or without any actions based on past history

 

[Silicon0000]

No such clause.The only clause in my knowledge is that Blk 52s (only) cannot be used for any action outside pakistani airspace, within pakistani airspace they can be used against anyone.No such clause for other blocks and they can be used against anyone and anywhere.
P.s This is not very reliable information but for sure there's no such clause of not using F16s against India.

Can someone tell me where PAF can possibly use BVR (AIM120) US supplied to Pakistan when we have only F16 that can use them?

 

[TOPGUN]

Great picture, I know we have talked about this before but these ADF's vipers able to fire BVR's ?

 

[SABRE]

No such clause.The only clause in my knowledge is that Blk 52s (only) cannot be used for any action outside pakistani airspace, within pakistani airspace they can be used against anyone.No such clause for other blocks and they can be used against anyone and anywhere.
P.s This is not very reliable information but for sure there's no such clause of not using F16s against India.

I am not completely certain but I think in the wake of 27th Feb action American officials did say that there is no clause that prevents Pakistan from using F-16s or AMRAAMs against India.

 

[khanasifm]

Great picture, I know we have talked about this before but these ADF's vipers able to fire BVR's ?

All paf f-16 are bvr capable and jf-17 as well

 

[HRK]

Great picture, I know we have talked about this before but these ADF's vipers able to fire BVR's ?

yaap ....