Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Silk]

Thanks Hasnain. Anyway, here some bits form the net...

In 2003, the Block 60 was redesignated F-16E/F, in recognition of the major structural, avionics and propulsion system advancements, which make the Block 60 a practically new version of the F-16. The first of 80 Block 60 F-16s for the United Arab Emirates Air Force made its maiden flight at Fort Worth on December 6, 2003. It bore the serial 3001 and wore the civil registration of N161LM. Deliveries are scheduled to run from 2004 to 2007.

Surely some parts can be used but there is no upgrade possible due to much higher thrust needed from the engine. To tell you insight... The weight even in the Block60 is a big issue. They keep having often flat tires after the landing. IF you add all the equipment in the vanilla block52 it will not be safe.

 

[Pfpilot]

It doesn't make sense even in the slightest for Pakistan to even think about the block 60 and beyond, simply because it would replicate what the j-10b will give us at half the cost.
Anyways, if we could afford a block 60 or theoretical block 70, we would have just bought the rafale or some other 4.5 generation jet already.

 

[Manticore]

With all due respect, your basic knowledge seems to be fundamentally flawed! When a Blk 15 can be upgraded to Blk 50/52, why can't you upgrade to Blk 60/70?

As to your comment on googling, here you go:

Secondly, wouldn't 40 Blk 60/70, be more formidable than 80 Blk-52+ ???

it is not possible to retrofit Block 50-52 F16's to the Block 60 Configeration..., there are significant structural differences ,USAF didn't pay for the development of Block 60, UAE did , comparing with F-16C/D Block50/52, it has around 70% difference in hardware and 100% difference in software -- same might be the case with the overexpensive f-2 -- so as such upgrade programme doesnt exhist , it wouldve been entirely funded by paf, thus skyrocketing the price even further as compared to j10b

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...6-mlu-specifications-36-blk-52-prospects.html

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

here you go fellas F-16D Block 52 with CFT .. the image quality of the picture is not so gud because the photographer has focused on pilot not to bird .
pilot face has been censored

 

[air marshal]

Here comes another

 

[Patriot]

So all the conspiracies about Pakistanis not having CFt can die now!

 

[Imran Khan]

So all the conspiracies about Pakistanis not having CFt can die now!

yes indians will now gone a step ahead from CFT to amraam.

 

[Kompromat]

 

[Kompromat]

Update:

Pakistan's new F-16s are powered by Pratt & Whitney F100-229 engines, with other systems understood to include Northrop Grumman's mechanically scanned APG-68(V)9 radar and ITT's ALQ-211(V)9 advanced integrated defensive electronic warfare suite.

A proposed weapons package outlined by the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency in 2006 included 500 Raytheon AIM-120C5 advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles and 200 short-range AIM-9M-8/9 Sidewinders, plus 500 Boeing joint direct attack munitions, 1,600 enhanced GBU-12/24 laser-guided bombs and 700 BLU-109 penetrator bombs.

Pakistan forges ahead with new fighters, upgrades


ITT's ALQ-211(V)9 advanced integrated defensive electronic warfare suite.

500- AIM-120C5 AMRAAM.

200- AIM-9M-8/9.

500-Boeing JDAM

1600-GBU-12/24

GBU-12 Paveway.

GBU-24.

700-BLU-109 Penetrator

Regards:

 

[Tajdar adil]

J-11J-11
A 4.5-generation J-11B prototype flying
Role Multirole Air Superiority Fighter
Manufacturer Shenyang Aircraft Corporation
Designed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (J-11B is Chinese-designed)
First flight 1998
Introduced 1998
Status Active service
Primary user People's Liberation Army Air Force
Produced 1998-Present
Number built ≈100
Developed from Sukhoi Su-27SK


J-11 b/c is a marked improvement done by the chinese


Comparable aircraft

* F-15 Eagle
* Sukhoi Su-30MKI
* Eurofighter Typhoon

J 11b is very good aircraft but i thing Pakistan is not intrusted in J 11b...

 

[S-A-B-E-R->]

J 11b is very good aircraft but i thing Pakistan is not intrusted in J 11b...

guys as far as i know IAF did many upgrades on MKI ,in the context we can do the same but with better tech avalable as chinese AESA is near completion and we r aware of many ne,of course money is a problem but theoratically we can do it right?

 

[MZUBAIR]

guys as far as i know IAF did many upgrades on MKI ,in the context we can do the same but with better tech avalable as chinese AESA is near completion and we r aware of many ne,of course money is a problem but theoratically we can do it right?

We have also done with MIRAGE ..called ROSE program.
Indian Mirage 2K ...dont have AESA radar.

Besides our JF-17 hav adva techs to countre IAF Mirages

 

[MZUBAIR]

PAF F-16's have some 700 BLU-09 Penetrator

It has steel casing about 1 inch (25.4 mm) thick, filled with 530 lb (240 kg) of Tritonal. It has a delayed-action fuse. It is intended to smash through concrete shelters and other hardened structures before exploding.

 

[MZUBAIR]

GBU-24.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Some 500 JDAM