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Everything you mentioned is accurate, except for the first statement.
Pakistan knows better than to go to Greece for that option be it India's relations with Greece or Turkey's issues with Greece.
Hi,But why is US approving sale of pre-owned F-16s but not allowing us to buy straight from them? Is it a price issue on our behalf?
Also according to me and many others here since years, is there an official statement ?
Hi,
If pakistan can pay, there is no problem getting new F16's.
Now will the uS sell the one with aesa---???
with the threat of War with Russia looming, europe won't be willing to sell their F-16s.Pakistan has two options outside of US suppliers if that is an issue for an agreement for an upgrade. The Ozgur from the Turks or a Leonardo Upgrade by the Italians.
But realistically if they approve an upgrade they are gonna want the deal for US companies.
The F-16V upgrade is the same the Taiwanese will get and the US may not want the PAF to have the same sub-systems integrated into networks/datalinks with Chinese equipment operated by the PAF, potentially revealing some capabilities.
Looking back at an old post of mine from 3 1/2 years ago, the global used F-16 inventories that could be plausible source of air frames would be:
USAF active and retired
Various US state Air National Guards
30 Danish F-16AM
60 Dutch F-16AM
46 Norwegian F-16A
43 Belgian F-16A
30 Portuguese F-16
200+ Turkish F-16
63 Jordanian F-16
Unlikely the Turks will sell when they have their own needs. Jordan looks like the best option. Greece would be a long shot, hence why I did not include them.
Good point. So that only leaves the Jordanians and the USAF/USANGwith the threat of War with Russia looming, europe won't be willing to sell their F-16s.
would be the dream, genuinely IAF can kiss its superiority goodbyeMy guess is around 18 Jordanian MLUs, giving us an A/B/C/D fleet of 93 Vipers. Then we upgrade all of them to V standard and order another sqd of 18 new Vs giving us a total of 121 F-16Vs split into 7 combat Sqds plus CCS/Aggressors unit.
Add that to say 4 J-10 units and 10 JF-17 units you are looking at a 21 Squadron force and final retirement of all Mirages and F-7PGs
theyre being replacedwith the threat of War with Russia looming, europe won't be willing to sell their F-16s.
For the PAF, the ideal mix is having a total of around 100~110 F-16A/Bs and 50~75 F-16C/Ds in total. This was the original trajectory if not for Pressler. It would likely keep a lot of those airframes in reserve too so as to keep a core fleet of 90~110 active at all times.My guess is around 18 Jordanian MLUs, giving us an A/B/C/D fleet of 93 Vipers. Then we upgrade all of them to V standard and order another sqd of 18 new Vs giving us a total of 121 F-16Vs split into 7 combat Sqds plus CCS/Aggressors unit.
Add that to say 4 J-10 units and 10 JF-17 units you are looking at a 21 Squadron force and final retirement of all Mirages and F-7PGs