Gripen9
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Why mods allow this f'ing Tejas to masquerade as a eurofighter is beyond me.Why haven't you fixed your flags yet, Indian?
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Why mods allow this f'ing Tejas to masquerade as a eurofighter is beyond me.Why haven't you fixed your flags yet, Indian?
Dont take him seriously.... he is infant ... just sitting in same dipper again and agianWhy mods allow this f'ing Tejas to masquerade as a eurofighter is beyond me.
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Why mods allow this f'ing Tejas to masquerade as a eurofighter is beyond me.
Seems you were in a hurry to press the reply button.....which is understandable......so be a good boy drink some cold water, pause, take a deep breath and read my post again very slowly so you can absorb it.Err ............Your assuming a kill ratio of 100% .............Which is hillarious
You tried 4 or 5 Amraams in Feb 2019 ..............They all missed the su30mki
The average kill ratio in BVR combat is any where between 10% and 20% max.
This is why the west are concentrating on improving missles eccm and stealth and speed more than range . They understand the key is NEZ ie no escape Zone
Bolting on range is useless on its ownn.
Another arrogant almost foolish conclusion you made was that each and very F16 will wn every BVR engagment. The reality is the enemy has over 450 fighters everybit as good as the F16 or better
36 rafale with Reb2 Aesa radar Meteore & mica bvrs
45 mirage2000-5 with mica Bvrs
63 Mig29 upg with zhuk Aesa radar new R771 and R27E BVRS
270 Su30mki with Pesa Radar R771/RE27/Astra mk1 bvrs
25 Tejas mk1 with Derby BVR and soon Astra mk1 BVR
40 mig29k zhuk bvr R771/re27 bvrs
Those F16 numbering 75 planes may last 7-10 days by which time 70% will have crashed or become unusable due or fatigue maintenance or no BVRS ........... unless USA resupplys
No one is underestimating anyone but then one doesn't need to be a genius to look at the past history of the two air forces and see who delivered when required that too under adverse circumstances.only a fool would underestimate ones, enemy.
and in our case, one which is bigger, better armed, and backed by all your former circassian friends.
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Seems you were in a hurry to press the reply button.....which is understandable......so be a good boy drink some cold water, pause, take a deep breath and read my post again very slowly so you can absorb it.
The line up is very impressive for any air force but here after all we are talking about the Indian air force which has to create false bravado even for an exercise only to be ridiculed as some cricket jokers while back home they have to paint the wreckage of own MiG-21s in PAF colours and put them on display to keep the gullible Indians entertained. Something even a Sub-Saharan airforce would not descend to do.
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I live in Warwick
England
born and bred British
with the new blue british passport ......... lost the burgundy one in Dec 2020 lol lol
and work for Barclays bank in Finance
The location is 100% correct
As is my nationality
And you being just a newbie, need first learn to walk before attempting to run....by conservative estimates the AMRAAMS have 80% kill rate.....hence i said 450 to 500......and every battle will not be a BVR encounter.Your rank is an elite Member
Your post is reflects inexperience of the subject just paitriotic bravado
Did you really say 500 amraams = 500 kills of enemy fighters
Is this how you genuinely believe air war is effected.
D you expect 500 su30mki mig29 rafale anmd mirage2000 pilots to realistically just sit there on 500 occasions
Think about your post again
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Your rank is an elite Member
Your post is reflects inexperience of the subject just paitriotic bravado
Did you really say 500 amraams = 500 kills of enemy fighters
Is this how you genuinely believe air war is effected.
D you expect 500 su30mki mig29 rafale anmd mirage2000 pilots to realistically just sit there on 500 occasions
Think about your post again
That doesn't excuse your simping for the Indian military. Its quite clear you are an Indian. Whether living abroad or not, u r or ur fam is Indian
And you being just a newbie, need first learn to walk before attempting to run....by conservative estimates the AMRAAMS have 80% kill rate.....hence i said 450 to 500......and every battle will not be a BVR encounter.
Also keep in your head that last time one single hit caused rest of your MKIs and MK2s to run for dear life and leave the battlefield.
And you being just a newbie, need first learn to walk before attempting to run....by conservative estimates the AMRAAMS have 80% kill rate.....hence i said 450 to 500......and every battle will not be a BVR encounter.
Also keep in your head that last time one single hit caused rest of your MKIs and MK2s to run for dear life and leave the battlefield.
Only Salt Erosion Proof? Oh ok!Yep, but given the critical role they play (and their legacy), I imagine the fighter next-up will be an NGFA from China or Turkey. I think -- despite being a carrier-ops design -- even the J-35 could be of interest because it'd offer salt-erosion-proofing, so it'd be of value for our maritime ops.
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That doesn't excuse your simping for the Indian military. Its quite clear you are an Indian. Whether living abroad or not, u r or ur fam is Indian
No one cares about the uprated engines or 35-ton MTOW. But if the PAF gets J-35, watch everyone demand that it transfer those to the PN and that PN get an aircraft carrier.Only Salt Erosion Proof? Oh ok!
Dont know what rock you have been living under, but in the real world......And i notice your british Flag
I work with brits my entire life
They do not even know Pakistan has an airforce LET alone the Fighter planes
Rather ironic dont you think
You just mentioned that BVR will not be vital in indo pak theatre due to close proximity of conflict
Ok assume your correct .
In modern wvr those who have HMD rule the dog fight simply pilot moves head acheives lock on . No need for fancy moves agility etc or certainly not as much.
So guess what
All 500 if the IAF front line fighters carry HMD & HOBS missles
And IN PAF
only the F16
no other fighters in PAF including Thunder to date has a HMD or HOBS .
IAF uses 3 different HMD and HOBS missles
R73 on mki and mig29
Asraam on Rafale & Mirage2000I
Python 5 only tested Tejas now after successfuly R73 intergration already.
In finance we have saying re stock market investment growth in future
"past performance is not accurate refection of future results "
In other words do not sit complacently just because a F16 shot down a rusty old mig21 bison in 2019
or good results in 1971 mostly on back of superior western platforms like the mirage 5
Today on paper especially with S400 coming and rafales here already the IAF is superior on all aspects bar numbers of Awacs
No passport and birth suggest i am british ..........which i am and proud of too
So now your suggesting 4 out of 5 battles will be won by the F16 against Rafale Mirage2000 Su30mki Mig29
Another massive assummption
I say Rafale will 8 out of 10 engagements against F16 amraam or no amraam
And the others will 50 /50 at best
So now your suggesting 4 out of 5 battles will be won by the F16 against Rafale Mirage2000 Su30mki Mig29
Another massive assummption
I say Rafale will win 8 out of 10 engagements against F16 amraam or no amraam
And the others will 50 /50 at best
You just mentioned that BVR will not be vital in indo pak theatre due to close proximity of conflict
Ok assume your correct .
In modern wvr those who have HMD rule the dog fight simply pilot moves head acheives lock on . No need for fancy moves agility etc or certainly not as much.
So guess what
All 500 if the IAF front line fighters carry HMD & HOBS missles
And IN PAF
only the F16
no other fighters in PAF including Thunder to date has a HMD or HOBS .
IAF uses 3 different HMD and HOBS missles
R73 on mki and mig29
Asraam on Rafale & Mirage2000I
Python 5 only tested Tejas now after successfuly R73 intergration already.
In finance we have saying re stock market investment growth in future
"past performance is not accurate refection of future results "
In other words do not sit complacently just because a F16 shot down a rusty old mig21 bison in 2019
or good results in 1971 mostly on back of superior western platforms like the mirage 5
Today on paper especially with S400 coming and rafales here already the IAF is superior on all aspects bar numbers of Awacs
No passport and birth suggest i am british ..........which i am and proud of too
So now your suggesting 4 out of 5 battles will be won by the F16 against Rafale Mirage2000 Su30mki Mig29
Another massive assummption
I say Rafale will 8 out of 10 engagements against F16 amraam or no amraam
And the others will 50 /50 at best
So now your suggesting 4 out of 5 battles will be won by the F16 against Rafale Mirage2000 Su30mki Mig29
Another massive assummption
I say Rafale will win 8 out of 10 engagements against F16 amraam or no amraam
And the others will 50 /50 at best
Come on Brother! YOU are a smart guy, Ignore the keyboard warriors, and think how a carrier capable a/c will fit into the paradigm without an a/c carrier.No one cares about the uprated engines or 35-ton MTOW. But if the PAF gets J-35, watch everyone demand that it transfer those to the PN and that PN get an aircraft carrier.