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Pakistan eyes US military equipment from Afghanistan

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I saw a movie "Lord of War" in which they show that arms dealers actually buy the used military equipment in bulk and then resell it to interested parties.
 
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The title is almost embarrassing...


At least bettern then Indian Navy operatin a out dated Aircraft carrier:bad:

I think it should be repharased ÙNUSED equipment with may be 10 km on the items

Diplomatically I think it would be good win situation for US to give majority of items to Pakistan
considering the help they recieved in numerous operations.

It is waste of money to move all items back billions in wasted funds instead they can win diplomatic cookie points and leave the region on high
 
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All pakistanis on the forum burn with fury when drones kill scores of fellow countrymen and the next instance same pakistanis are eyeing leftover maal of US in afghanistan.... where is the dignity???

Indian ... the perpetual capitalist

Talks of dignity !
Nothing could be funnier.

That wouldn't make any sense. How can air assets come under leftover stock? They don't need to be shipped or airlifted but flown back home the same way most of them arrived.

You do understand that the A-10s are in retirement phase,
as would be some other helicopters due to airframe age.

And you do understand that there will be a shipment cost associated with shipping back the equipment.

Now, let that innner capitalist come out of u.
 
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Benefits of Non Nato Allied Status

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Nations named as major non-NATO allies are eligible for the following benefits:
entry into cooperative research and development projects with the Department of Defense (DoD) on a shared-cost basis
participation in certain counter-terrorism initiatives
purchase of depleted uranium anti-tank rounds
priority delivery of military surplus (ranging from rations to ships)
possession of War Reserve Stocks of DoD-owned equipment that are kept outside of American military bases
loans of equipment and materials for cooperative research and development projects and evaluations
permission to use American financing for the purchase or lease of certain defense equipment
reciprocal training
expedited export processing of space technology
permission for the country's corporations to bid on certain DoD contracts for the repair and maintenance of military equipment outside the United States




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You do understand that the A-10s are in retirement phase,
as would be some other helicopters due to airframe age.

And you do understand that there will be a shipment cost associated with shipping back the equipment.

Now, let that innner capitalist come out of u.

I do. However, the birds still have to be brought to a production facility to get them into resale condition. You comparatively have a better chance of striking a deal on the recently decommissioned warthogs unless you're looking for static displays for museums.
 
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The US will not give any of these to Pakistan. Like it said it will only be the most archaic and outdated equipment. The best stuff, they will naturally keep for themselves. And any sale to Pakistan will be bound by the same rule as past FMS to Pakistan ie they won't give any weapons that could change the balance of power in the region as such bunker busters and the like are an immediate no-go.

You are assuming that without any official hint from either side.

----- First question is if USA in a 10 years long war that after 6 years was fought as a war of defeat would have used oldest and most archaic type equipment?

----- Second, Is PA unaware of challanges which it faces and will it be looking to shelf most old and archaic equipment for good?

----- Third, USA doesn't have an option to use any other route other than Pakistan. Even though trust on Pakistan is strangent, it is still safer route to use other than Russian Routes.

----- Forth, The war equipment that was used in Afghanistan has seen one of the hardest battle-grounds and terrains. USA and NATO have pretty high benchmarks for keeping such hardware. They might not be looking to take back the hardware which has lived more than 40-50% of its dependable life.

----- Taking equipment out of Afghanistan is an expensive process and considering the volume and piles of equipment they have, they might them-self want this equipment to be left in good hands (other than Taliban, Iran or the Russia). Also Karzai wouldn't be able to hold back its seat after US/NATO leaves out and Taliban are likely to get Kabul back. Considering that, how much would US/NATO leave such equipment in the hands of Afghan Security Forces?

The only point which you may make is that selling equipment to Pakistan will make India unhappy which is true but to which limit do you think this factor matters that it would overshadow the first 4 points? Thinking rational is hard for some minds anyway.

Finally, coming towards your "Imbalance of Power" point, it is actually better for them to sell this stuff to Pakistan to bring this balance back. So far Iran is getting strong, India on the other hand is several times stronger and in North China is unimaginably stronger than Pakistan. So the theory itself advocates to hand-over good deal of equipment to Pakistan.
 
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Pak army already refused Iraq war equipment. Most of equipment will go to Greece .
 
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Pak army already refused Iraq war equipment. Most of equipment will go to Greece .
so after a year what military equipment are we getting during & after the us n nato's withdrawl from afghanistan ? any new updates or new news about that lately ?
 
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so after a year what military equipment are we getting during & after the us n nato's withdrawl from afghanistan ? any new updates or new news about that lately ?

All depend on present govt of Afghanistan, if they sign strategic pact with US, then a big part of US army will stay in Afghanistan. Otherwise except few bases, will be total evac.
 
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So you wanna buy second hand equipment that's been buggered for several years in Afghanistan? Don't behave like beggars. Go buy new equipment that would last you for at least 10 years more, and where you'd not need to depend on spares to keep on putting these used items in action.

Penny wise, pound foolish, as the saying goes. And then you can get Chinese stuff that would be far cheaper than the junk that the US would be leaving behind in Afghanistan! :cheesy:

I guess you don't understand the concept of surplus weapons, do you? Israel used to buy surplus American weapons as well. Don't be so quick to leave snarky remarks. :coffee:
 
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