Pakistan Expels Indian Envoy, Suspends Trade Over Kashmir

[Taimoor Khan]

We need to accept the reality that Pakistan cannot hurt India economically. Sure we can cause a few scratches here and there, but the Indian economy is huge and growing fast and will easily recover from these blimps.

Pakistan needs to hurt India where it hurts the most just like it did in the 90's. What if the Kashmiri Freedom Fighters are now armed to the teeth with all calibers of weapons? What if their training/tactics are on point, and on average India starts loosing 40-50 troopers a day. This is what will hurt India, not these flimsy economic attempts.

Economic growth, even its reversal, is totally dependant on the law and order situation of a nation. You want to hit your enemy nation, screw their law and order situation. This is what we have been experiencing in Pakistan and this fact has been lost among the establishment of Pakistan.

 

[pakpride00090]

I am not sure if PDF is the actual reflection of Pakistan's kaum. If it is, then feel really sorry for Pakistan as a nation. What has come of you guys? Will eat grass for Bombs......will bleed by thousand cuts.....Gazwah-e-hind....
You wanted to tie down india in Kashmir, USSR and USA in Afghanistan, become champions of Ummah......look at you now. You were the wonder of asia, most promising economy. I have met few of you in mid eighties as part of youth exchange and was very much impressed by whatever Pakistan was till then.
Only thing that works well in Pakistan is Army and when it is said that Pakistan does not have a Army but Pakistan Army has a Nation, it is not far from truth. Without your Army, you will be eaten up by your corrupt Polity and Bureaucrats. You have failed to bring in political, bureaucratic and judicial reforms (We too have not covered ourselves in glory here, but much better), price of which is being paid by common folks.
You should have stopped right there post 1998. PAF was right in advocating curtailment of mil expenses in early nineties. Whole gamut of warfare changed since then (Missiles/Anti-missiles). There was never an existential threat to Pakistan (Bangladesh was your own folly) and existing resources were good enough to halt any Indian Adventurism. After Asian Crisis, you had a wonderful opportunity to redeem yourself as an economic powerhouse (India did). Karachi could have been the East-West Intermediary of Financial Markets bridging Asia and Europe but you guys were too drunk to look beyond Afghanistan and initial success of Jihadism in Kashmir. Your Army made a fool of you all along (USSR breakup, Afghanistan depth, Kashmir) and made you believe Kashmir banega Pakistan. Had you guys corrected course then, you would have been atleast 5 times of what you are today.
Do you seriously think you can take Kashmir and break India into pieces? You always said that we will tie down India at Kashmir and prevent its rise/hegemony. Who is in knots now? You guys have fallen hostage to ideology that Kashmir is everything (Spine of Pakistan- in words of Jinnah Saheb) and are madly willing to risk everything left with.
Move on guys, Politicians, Army, ISI, RAW, Cheen, Amreekaa will keep playing their little games to keep themselves relevant at the cost of us gullible(fodders).
Kashmir is going nowhere, kashmiris are going nowhere, Pakistan will there forever and India is not imploding. Make good of whatever life is dealing you and stay happy.

@waz @Dubious ..

This is the 4th time I am quoting you to report this specific person...He has been spamming this post on PDF .. Check his post history.

 

[Verve]

We need to accept the reality that Pakistan cannot hurt India economically. Sure we can cause a few scratches here and there, but the Indian economy is huge and growing fast and will easily recover from these blimps.

Pakistan needs to hurt India where it hurts the most just like it did in the 90's. What if the Kashmiri Freedom Fighters are now armed to the teeth with all calibers of weapons? What if their training/tactics are on point, and on average India starts loosing 40-50 troopers a day. This is what will hurt India, not these flimsy economic attempts.

These measure are not to hurt Indian economy but to get the message to the world that we are at the brink of a major conflict.

 

[HRK]

Pakistan cannot hurt India economically

we have not realise our strength, we can hurt India economically as well ....

 

[zn426]

Checking flight radar 24, there is a grand total of 1 Air India plane currently over Pakistan, en route from Delhi to Dubai. There are no planes on approach to the Pakistani border. Thinking this actually has legs.

 

[Ritual]

Those pointless Wagah ceremonies need to end permanently. Just make it a closed border.

 

[Syed1.]

Those pointless Wagah ceremonies need to end permanently. Just make it a closed border.

Agree.... why even have a gate there... make it a 50 foot tall wall

 

[Cent4]

we have not realise our strength, we can hurt India economically as well ....

That requires us blocking oil supplies to India. Our Navy is not up to that task and we may lose any "Friends" that we may have in middle east.

And also they can get supplies from South america or Russia. so even stoping Oil will not affect India in the long run.

I dont see any other way where we can hurt them economically.

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Agree.... why even have a gate there... make it a 50 foot tall wall

Lets build a wall and make India pay for it.

 

[notorious_eagle]

If we are going to help arm the Kashmir resistance, it won't happen immediately. It will take months, possibly a year or 2.

Indeed, and now would be the worst time to hurt them as the Indian Forces are out patrolling in full force. Its good to quietly conserve our strength, start setting up the camps after recruiting young Kashmiri fighters that would join in droves. I wrote this in another thread that Pakistan destroys thousands of tons of weapons/ammo every year. We can start diverting these weapons/ammo to the Kashmir cause.

Economic growth, even its reversal, is totally dependant on the law and order situation of a nation. You want to hit your enemy nation, screw their law and order situation. This is what we have been experiencing in Pakistan and this fact has been lost among the establishment of Pakistan.

The issue is if we hit India outside JK, this will invite the wrath of the international powers and will destroy our case for Kashmir and also hurt our economy. We can only hit the Indian forces within JK.

we have not realise our strength, we can hurt India economically as well ....

We sure can, but if we hurt them outside JK, we will invite the wrath of the international powers. We have to hit them strategically, where we maximize the damage.

 

[Verve]

Major Decisions:

1. Indian Embassador exit
2. All trade cancelled

 

[VCheng]

The issue is if we hit India outside JK, this will invite the wrath of the international powers and will destroy our case for Kashmir and also hurt our economy. We can only hit the Indian forces within JK.

And what makes you think that the international community will not take notice of what you are suggesting?

 

[Verve]

Airspace is it closed?

That's not announced but looking at flights at the moment this seems to be in effect already. No Indian airlines for past few hours.

 

[HRK]

That requires us blocking oil supplies to India. Our Navy is not up to that task and we may lose any "Friends" that we may have in middle east.

there are other many possibilities as well

 

[Verve]

 

[fitpOsitive]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1158833885381312512

It's a Bandar nach, nothing more. Kashmiris must die, it's Allah's wrath that Pakistan is on their side. They don't need enemy.
We, the people of Pakistan, now are looking towards global jahadi forces to come forward to save Kashmiris.
Ham bs twitter pe hi JAHAD kersaktay hain.