Pakistan Defence Budget: Can it compete rising Indian Military Ambitions...???

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Definitely you would be but what it has to do with the current discussion?

Mitigating circumstances for the current not so brilliant economic performance by us.

 

[proud_indian]

Mitigating circumstances for the current not so brilliant economic performance by us.

Even if you would be able to improve your economic situation which I highly doubt, there is no evidence that suggest that you will surpass our growth and the difference between our economies will further widen as the chart shows that I earlier posted, Hence the question remains the same .

How will it be able to compete rising Indian Military Ambitions...???
would you please like to add something to it without going offtopic?

This World Map Shows the Economic Growth Over the Coming Decade

19 January 2016
Experts have predicted that India may be the fastest growing global economy in the next decade. The Center for International Development at Harvard University (CID) is using a newly updated measure of economic complexity to forecast an annual growth rate of 6.98% for India over the next decade. The CID believes that the countries with the greatest potential for growth are located mainly in South Asia and East Africa.

We created the following scaled map to show the forecasted growth rates. The countries are scaled according to their predicted growth rate. Thus, India appears larger than the United States with a predicted growth rate of only 2.58%.

As can be seen from the map, India appears larger on the map than its neighbor China to the north. The CID believes that India will have the highest growth rate because of gains in productive capabilities. These gains have allowed the country to diversify exports into more complex products such as pharmaceuticals, vehicles and electronics. Historically, gains in economic complexity have resulted in higher incomes.

There are a number of countries in East Africa that are projected to grow at least 5.5% annually. Five countries in the region appear on the top ten of the CID list including Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya, Malawi and Madagascar. In addition, there are countries in both the Middle East and South America that appear poised to take off. Jordan and Israel have projected annual growth rates in excess of 4%. Guatemala has a projected growth rate of 5.22%, while Honduras and Mexico are both over 4%.

At the same time, economic growth is anticipated to slow in advanced economies. The U.S. is anticipated to only grow 2.58%. The U.K. is forecasted at a slightly higher 3.22%. Germany, one of the leading economies in Europe, is forecasted with an annual growth rate of only 0.35%. The CID also notes that economies based on commodity output face slower growth rates as commodity prices continue to remain under pressure.

The CID uses economic complexity as their indicator for economic growth after a decade of research. This research has found countries that diversify their production knowledge beyond what is expected see faster income growth. This is a much more accurate indicator of future growth as compared with the popular World Economic Forum Global Competitiveness Index. For example, the CID says that Greece has been an outlier for having a higher income level than would be expected for its level of economic complexity. The country has struggled with average negative annual growth over the past decade.

The CID says that looking at economic complexity may help policymakers. By finding ways to bring new production and product capability into a country, it could help to strengthen growth in the future. The key is getting the new knowledge to come into the area which depends in part on immigration policy, as well as education policy.
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This World Map Shows the #Economic Growth Over the Coming Decadepic.twitter.com/1RCazXrzuZ https://t.co/VVOUPdqRpt via @howmuch_net#dataviz

— How Much (@howmuch_net) January 19, 2016

http://howmuch.net/articles/atlas-of-economic-growth​

 

[guest11]

Exactly! My point. So what's to say the figures will not be lower as opposed to higher? The fact that India has 33% of the world's most severely malnourished and extreme poor leads many to believe that india's population is much higher than what indian officials claim it to be.

Oh Khuda ka khauf kar bhai, itna bhi jhooth mat bol.

Pakistan has higher birth rate. It has more to do with religion than anything else. Even in India, Muslims have the highest birth rate.

With no source to back up your claims they are as useless as they come.

Now coming to the another red herring of yours which is not surprising as many here have a tendency to shift goal post when they have egg on their faces.

Not only Pakistan has more hungry people per capita they are increasing every passing year. Go through the entire thread and come back to me.

https://defence.pk/threads/india-to...n-people-un-report.432646/page-2#post-8341687

 

[proud_indian]

Oh Kuda ka khauf kar bhai, itna bhi jhooth mat bol.

Pakistan has higher birth rate. It has more to do with religion than anything else. Even in India, Muslims have the highest birth rate.

With no source to back up your claims they are as useless as they come.

Now coming to the another red herring of yours which is not surprising as many here have a tendency to shift goal post when they have egg on their faces.

Not only Pakistan has more hungry people per capita they are increasing every passing year. Go through the entire thread and come back to me.

https://defence.pk/threads/india-to...n-people-un-report.432646/page-2#post-8341687

My suggestion to you never argue any pakistani about poverty, slum, rape, malnourishment
they will give you figure starting from 33% to 75 or even 90 %

They use these vague numbers to deviate you from the topic
so my suggestion just ignore it

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Even if you would be able to improve your economic situation which I highly doubt, there is no evidence that suggest that you will surpass our growth and the difference between our economies will further widen as the chart shows that I earlier posted, Hence the question remains the same .

How will it be able to compete rising Indian Military Ambitions...???
would you please like to add something to it without going offtopic?

This World Map Shows the Economic Growth Over the Coming Decade

19 January 2016
Experts have predicted that India may be the fastest growing global economy in the next decade. The Center for International Development at Harvard University (CID) is using a newly updated measure of economic complexity to forecast an annual growth rate of 6.98% for India over the next decade. The CID believes that the countries with the greatest potential for growth are located mainly in South Asia and East Africa.

We created the following scaled map to show the forecasted growth rates. The countries are scaled according to their predicted growth rate. Thus, India appears larger than the United States with a predicted growth rate of only 2.58%.

As can be seen from the map, India appears larger on the map than its neighbor China to the north. The CID believes that India will have the highest growth rate because of gains in productive capabilities. These gains have allowed the country to diversify exports into more complex products such as pharmaceuticals, vehicles and electronics. Historically, gains in economic complexity have resulted in higher incomes.

There are a number of countries in East Africa that are projected to grow at least 5.5% annually. Five countries in the region appear on the top ten of the CID list including Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya, Malawi and Madagascar. In addition, there are countries in both the Middle East and South America that appear poised to take off. Jordan and Israel have projected annual growth rates in excess of 4%. Guatemala has a projected growth rate of 5.22%, while Honduras and Mexico are both over 4%.

At the same time, economic growth is anticipated to slow in advanced economies. The U.S. is anticipated to only grow 2.58%. The U.K. is forecasted at a slightly higher 3.22%. Germany, one of the leading economies in Europe, is forecasted with an annual growth rate of only 0.35%. The CID also notes that economies based on commodity output face slower growth rates as commodity prices continue to remain under pressure.

The CID uses economic complexity as their indicator for economic growth after a decade of research. This research has found countries that diversify their production knowledge beyond what is expected see faster income growth. This is a much more accurate indicator of future growth as compared with the popular World Economic Forum Global Competitiveness Index. For example, the CID says that Greece has been an outlier for having a higher income level than would be expected for its level of economic complexity. The country has struggled with average negative annual growth over the past decade.

The CID says that looking at economic complexity may help policymakers. By finding ways to bring new production and product capability into a country, it could help to strengthen growth in the future. The key is getting the new knowledge to come into the area which depends in part on immigration policy, as well as education policy.
​

This World Map Shows the #Economic Growth Over the Coming Decadepic.twitter.com/1RCazXrzuZ https://t.co/VVOUPdqRpt via @howmuch_net#dataviz

— How Much (@howmuch_net) January 19, 2016

http://howmuch.net/articles/atlas-of-economic-growth​

Glad to stick to the point. 1st thing is that Pakistan or any other non-western country for that matter cannot compete economically with a nation that is 8 times bigger than it. 2nd thing is that Pakistan cannot compare itself to India because we are completely different in every possible way. Be it size, race, religion, genetics, heritage, beliefs and culture etc. So much so that there is no comparison between the 2 whatsoever. How can Pakistan compete with India militarily? No need to. Just develop thermonuclear weapons in good numbers and more advanced missiles with abm countermeasures and the Indian military threat to Pakistan is completely and truly nullified even if you spend 100 trillion on your military every year (This was shown to be the case on a smaller scale after mumbai 26/11/2008):

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...g-nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/

We started doing this already since 2011

PS it doesn't matter what you people doubt or not. Makes no difference. It's worthless. indians also vehemently doubted and proclaimed pre-May 1998 that Pakistan would never ever become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance. That it was impossible to do so. We all know what happened to that Indian bollywood delusion and fantasy.

 

[Zain Malik]

Our humanitarian Army cant think of killing of own citizen with military hardware and fighter aircrafts. Your country has the unique distinction of murdering its own citizen with tanks and fighter planes.

Sorry, but we are fine using just CRPF (Reserved Police Force) for such operations.

Indians people and their imaginations....Ahhhhh....Can't see a developing and terror free country....!!!

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Oh Khuda ka khauf kar bhai, itna bhi jhooth mat bol.

Pakistan has higher birth rate. It has more to do with religion than anything else. Even in India, Muslims have the highest birth rate.

With no source to back up your claims they are as useless as they come.

Now coming to the another red herring of yours which is not surprising as many here have a tendency to shift goal post when they have egg on their faces.

Not only Pakistan has more hungry people per capita they are increasing every passing year. Go through the entire thread and come back to me.

https://defence.pk/threads/india-to...n-people-un-report.432646/page-2#post-8341687

Here it is:

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/indias-malnutrition-shame/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-third-of-worlds-poorest-says-World-Bank.html

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/2-3...-malnourished-Report/articleshow/39582261.cms

http://m.firstpost.com/business/eco...ne-that-shows-67-of-india-is-poor-993241.html

 

[OrionHunter]

India is expected to spend a whopping $70 billion in the year 2020 on Military Power Projection leaving Pakistan so far behind that it would be virtually impossible for Pakistan to even dream of matching the Indian military spending.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...dian-military-ambitions.433964/#ixzz4AzUilFHk

Pakistan needs to realise that India has to contend with adversaries on two fronts - Pakistan as well as China. Pakistan has just one - India.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

nope

and the difference is increasing at a never before pace

you are growing at 3.1 and we are at 7.5

we are practically adding a pakistan economy to ours every year and if not already will soon enough

In few years states like TN, AP, UP, Gujarat economies would have overtake the economy of Pakistan. Already Maharastra GDP is greater than Pakistan I guess.
And still he can claim Indian lies and propaganda.

 

[waz]

Let's leave the who is hungry rubbish alone please. In a state comparison, Pakistan can't compete, it's now out of the question. Pakistan should simply concentrate on economic growth, the rest will come.

 

[jetray]

This whole idea of competing & comparing business is total nonsense. Each country will have its own intricacies. They should simply concentrate on removing poverty and providing better life to its citizen. Trade flow/FDI,budget ..etc are just indicators not exact measurements of ppl's lives.

This whole idea of pitting india vs pakistan/china is more of a distraction from original goal of ensuring better life for its citizens. India is indeed the big brother but why should that bother pakistan, India never initiated any of the wars? Seems their jealousy or hatred stems from the fact they cannot hurt India.

 

[Windows 10]

Every thread ends to the same kind of discussion. Why don't we appreciate each other efforts instead of letting each other down. I would be more than.happy to see both India and Pakistan doing good.

 

[Centurion2016]

People going way off tagent

We are talking about inda pak arms race.

Some people talking about malnourished Indians. race culture genes and religion.

stick to the topic.

Pakistan is competing with india SAME MANNER as North Korea is competing with South Korea

I WILL let you people tell me is Pakistan NORTH KOREA or SOUTH KOREA ????

 

[farhan_9909]

How can Pakistan hope to compete in any feild with a GDP on par with one Indian city (Mumbai). Unless Pakistan mends its internal structural issues it will always be lagging behind and the gap is only going to increase.

Over the years i have realized one thing that Economy for a country is everything

 

[Winchester]

We would be fine.

Any major intrusion into our territory and we drop THE BOMB.

Just focus on the internal threats.