Pakistan Deep state....Read THIS

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Hello GHQ,

From Karachi here.

It was a nasty week. Chaos was there and people were in shock. The outcome of this can be debated and is being debated...**** that debate. What have we learnt from all this? What should we do from now on? Lets discuss that.

1. Take all genuine Ulema i.e Tariq Jameel...on board all across Pakistan....Make them give fatwa about the security and holiness of Pakistan as a state. Make them give fatwa about how it is haram to pick up arms against own very Islamic republic. How it is haram to cause chaos and disrupt live of countrymen. Make that fatwa PUBLIC across all Pakistan and institutions and in your branches of military and intelligence as well. Average joe should read that in simple language. Propagate it through every single media/medium.

2. Don't send Asia bibi to west...DON'T DO THAT unless you want another face in west to humiliate Pakistan on international front like Hussain haqqani or Malala.

Malala may was not involved deliberately in maligning Pakistan but she did give impression that girls struggle in Pakistan when going to education. West is using her to tarnish image of Pakistan and will use Asia too against Pakistan...Take that Asia into protective custody. DON'T send her abroad.

3. There should be coordination b/w Gov't, judiciary and your institution regarding sensitive or international issues. This verdict could have delayed until Khan's visit was over but alas !!!

4. Go hard on corrupt....Hanging sword on Zardaris won't do good but frustrate common people....Just drop that sword. Remove these corrupt bastards....

5. Time to nurture groups against political parties have gone....If you really want to nurture, go for educated nationalists and patriotic Pakistanis who have understanding of affairs rather than lifting and banking on Jahil Mullahs.

6. Don't ever compromise on corrupt people and never help them in getting back to power. Give 200% support to Khan and his all agendas. That Khan you won't get again. Neutralize his enemies because he is honest and patriot and because it is YOUR DUTY to safeguard Pakistan from internal and external haramis.

7. Don't take support from common people for granted. People have started to openly criticize you on channels/media inside and outside. Only Patriots are shielding you, everywhere. Hear your fan base and drop nukes on corrupt assholes. Your fanbase wants patriots at the helms not corrupt bastards. Right now, you are entertaining everyone but your own fanbase and this is not right.

8. If you're not noticing it but you will see that game is being played in Afghanistan and Pakistan...India is totally safe or being protected. International players want to see Pakistan stuck into Afghan related mess hence ignoring economy and India. You need to ask the question to yourself...Why people are comparing Pakistan and Afghanistan? because it is part of hybrid warfare to portray Pakistan as lawless jungle as Afghanistan is. Only if you care about your country's image perception, things will become far better. Don't talk too much of Afghanistan or war on terror. It hurts your country's image. Don't need to remind world of your sacrifices. Lets create more badass and innovative narrative about Pakistan rather than just associating Pakistan with war and other damn stuff. **** that.

9. I repeat again...Khan should never be allowed to destabilized. Opposition should be checkmated till 10 - 15 years or may be more. We just got a honest leader. Give all your guns to him. Help in his anti corruption agenda.

10. And the last point.......

BE PROACTIVE....SEEK OPPORTUNITIES....SHUN PASSIVE MINDSET....

AND

CREATE YOUR FEAR IN HEARTS OF ENEMIES.


Regards,
Your well wisher

Allah bless Pakistan and its People and Armed Forces
​

Remember, Mr. Jinnah is reading you

@Indus Pakistan @MastanKhan @Oscar @Horus @LoveIcon and other Pakistanis

 

[Didact]

2. Don't send Asia bibi to west...DON'T DO THAT unless you want another face in west to humiliate Pakistan on international front like Hussain haqqani or Malala.

Malala may was not involved deliberately in maligning Pakistan but she did give impression that girls struggle in Pakistan when going to education. West is using her to tarnish image of Pakistan and will use Asia too against Pakistan...Take that Asia into protective custody. DON'T send her abroad.

Are you making the assertion that irrespective of the fact that the woman was found innocent as per your own laws and constitution, you would want the state to effectively keep her locked up? i.e you want her to be punished for a crime she did not commit as per the verdict. She has already spent 9 years in jail, awaiting death sentence to be carried out at any time. I'm fairly certain Quran will be absolutely opposed to punishing the innocent.

Or are you suggesting that it is okay to humiliate, and lock up a perfectly innocent person to avoid alleged humiliation at the hands of the west? I wonder what your stance would have been if it was your family member who was in her situation.

 

[Sugarcane]

Disagree with very first point which is actually root cause of many problem - what is your yardstick to measure genuineness of aalim? and why state should need fatwas from clerics when we have constitution and penal codes, and assembly & senate for debate, legislation and amendment of existing laws? It's time to actually control the clerics, mosques and madressahs - they should follow the state approved material and sermons, any of them transgress the limits must be get harsh punishment.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Very good points.

Few Islamic principles from the Ottoman understanding:

• A bad government/state is better than no government/state
• If 100 folks are in one boat and 99 of them are criminals, don't sink the boat for the right of the innocent prevails
• If one criminal is causing Fitne/Fesat to 99 innocent folks, take that criminal out
• Fitne/Fesat are worse than murder
• Swords can only be drawn against the foreign enemies in a state of war, not to settle internal disputes

 

[TheNoob]

The very first point is the very root issue of this mentality.

Do note that, no matter how good or kind a Ulima is.
For them, Religion will always stand before state.

Be it under India, Or America or Some jewish occupation.

There have been countless insinuations regarding that on notable figures.
Going that route will never work. They will simply not do it.

I suppose paid Ulimas can be different, not all can be reasoned with.


Regulation efforts should be carried under.
It'll help us realize which of them is the bad one and need to be kept out.

Only allow Madrassa administration to those who have went through a Govt specified course for 3 years regarding religion and state studies and then be allowed to preach as a legitimate scholar and be able to take part in Madrassa.

These madrassas need to have a govt regulated Cirrculum.

anyhow.
I hope you get the idea.

Instilling Nationalism is next to impossible in these masses.

 

[greenblooded]

Only allow Madrassa administration to those who have went through a Govt specified course for 3 years regarding religion and state studies and then be allowed to preach as a legitimate scholar and be able to take part in Madrassa.

i strongly agree with this point madrassas should inculcate a deep sense of nationalism and know how of Islam under government's strict regulations.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I would like to add one more point.

When we talk about full spectrum deterence, our allams at top are only thinking in terms of weapons and nukes. The definition of full spectrum deterence should be revised and MUST include hybrid aka fourth/fight generation warfare. To put it simply, everytime there is an attempt from enemy nation/s to cause terrorism, chaos, disturbance, law and order situation in Pakistan, there should be immediate response from state institutions to cause similar or perhaps more damage to enemy nations in their own homes and backyards. This does not mean squashing some rented maggots and foot soliders in occupied Afghanistan.

This is the area where in particular Pakistani establishment is nothing short of embarrassment. You cannot protect Pakistani citizens, interests and national goals by launching the radul fasad of this world. Only the fear, the deterence, the concept of mutually assured destruction works, and it's about time, hybrid warfare must be included in Pakistani response to enemy nations, wherever they might reside, geographically.

Every nation got its own internal fault lines. America got its own very big disgruntled black population and it will only take someone from outside to lite some fires here and there and watch the show from distance. So why no one take advantage of American vulnerabilities?

We cannot overcome our internal fault lines anytime soon, but we must ensure that we don't allow anyone exploit them without facing the consequences.

 

[delta2]

Correction, the GHQ is not the deep state. It is one part of it.

I disagree with the very first point. Who the hell is Tariq Jamil? He is a nobody when it comes to the interests of the State.

The TLP are mainly from Bralevi school of thought, which also happens to be the same followed by a majority of Pakistanis.

There are many, many Bralevi scholars that can he engaged behind the scenes.

The TLP is PMLN's front. Things are not as straight forward as some think they are. Nor are things as they appear to be.

So far the only persons who have benefitted from appearance of the TLP on the scene are NawaZ Sharif and Zardari etc. These guys were the center of attention and their corruption was being discussed all over the media then all of a sudden, the TLP pops up out of no where.

 

[valkyr_96]

Can anyone back this through ahadeeth (I don't want to post the other video) I think this itself tantamount to blasphemy.

 

[maithil]

Hello GHQ,

From Karachi here.

It was a nasty week. Chaos was there and people were in shock. The outcome of this can be debated and is being debated...**** that debate. What have we learnt from all this? What should we do from now on? Lets discuss that.

1. Take all genuine Ulema i.e Tariq Jameel...on board all across Pakistan....Make them give fatwa about the security and holiness of Pakistan as a state. Make them give fatwa about how it is haram to pick up arms against own very Islamic republic. How it is haram to cause chaos and disrupt live of countrymen. Make that fatwa PUBLIC across all Pakistan and institutions and in your branches of military and intelligence as well. Average joe should read that in simple language. Propagate it through every single media/medium.

2. Don't send Asia bibi to west...DON'T DO THAT unless you want another face in west to humiliate Pakistan on international front like Hussain haqqani or Malala.

Malala may was not involved deliberately in maligning Pakistan but she did give impression that girls struggle in Pakistan when going to education. West is using her to tarnish image of Pakistan and will use Asia too against Pakistan...Take that Asia into protective custody. DON'T send her abroad.

3. There should be coordination b/w Gov't, judiciary and your institution regarding sensitive or international issues. This verdict could have delayed until Khan's visit was over but alas !!!

4. Go hard on corrupt....Hanging sword on Zardaris won't do good but frustrate common people....Just drop that sword. Remove these corrupt bastards....

5. Time to nurture groups against political parties have gone....If you really want to nurture, go for educated nationalists and patriotic Pakistanis who have understanding of affairs rather than lifting and banking on Jahil Mullahs.

6. Don't ever compromise on corrupt people and never help them in getting back to power. Give 200% support to Khan and his all agendas. That Khan you won't get again. Neutralize his enemies because he is honest and patriot and because it is YOUR DUTY to safeguard Pakistan from internal and external haramis.

7. Don't take support from common people for granted. People have started to openly criticize you on channels/media inside and outside. Only Patriots are shielding you, everywhere. Hear your fan base and drop nukes on corrupt assholes. Your fanbase wants patriots at the helms not corrupt bastards. Right now, you are entertaining everyone but your own fanbase and this is not right.

8. If you're not noticing it but you will see that game is being played in Afghanistan and Pakistan...India is totally safe or being protected. International players want to see Pakistan stuck into Afghan related mess hence ignoring economy and India. You need to ask the question to yourself...Why people are comparing Pakistan and Afghanistan? because it is part of hybrid warfare to portray Pakistan as lawless jungle as Afghanistan is. Only if you care about your country's image perception, things will become far better. Don't talk too much of Afghanistan or war on terror. It hurts your country's image. Don't need to remind world of your sacrifices. Lets create more badass and innovative narrative about Pakistan rather than just associating Pakistan with war and other damn stuff. **** that.

9. I repeat again...Khan should never be allowed to destabilized. Opposition should be checkmated till 10 - 15 years or may be more. We just got a honest leader. Give all your guns to him. Help in his anti corruption agenda.

10. And the last point.......

BE PROACTIVE....SEEK OPPORTUNITIES....SHUN PASSIVE MINDSET....

AND

CREATE YOUR FEAR IN HEARTS OF ENEMIES.


Regards,
Your well wisher

Allah bless Pakistan and its People and Armed Forces
​

Remember, Mr. Jinnah is reading you

@Indus Pakistan @MastanKhan @Oscar @Horus @LoveIcon and other Pakistanis

Mr Jinnah used to read DAWN, which isn’t acceptable to GHQ.

 

[GumNaam]

Can anyone back this through ahadeeth (I don't want to post the other video) I think this itself tantamount to blasphemy.

FRIGGIN SERIOUSLY??? And people follow this wack job???

 

[litman]

islam is the only solution to all of our problems but neither the extremist nor the liberal is ready to understand and implement it. the masses dont want to know it so they either fall into extremist group or in liberal group. people today are talking about molding religion as per state laws rather then making laws as per Quran. classical example of "khud badaltay nahi quran ko badal datay hain". till the time we dont make Quran part of our lives and our foreign policy rest assure we will keep on getting humiliating in this world and our next world will also be ruined. we will keep on getting more and more nawazis and zardaris, fazlus and pein de siri, zias and mushis.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Hello GHQ,

From Karachi here.

It was a nasty week. Chaos was there and people were in shock. The outcome of this can be debated and is being debated...**** that debate. What have we learnt from all this? What should we do from now on? Lets discuss that.

1. Take all genuine Ulema i.e Tariq Jameel...on board all across Pakistan....Make them give fatwa about the security and holiness of Pakistan as a state. Make them give fatwa about how it is haram to pick up arms against own very Islamic republic. How it is haram to cause chaos and disrupt live of countrymen. Make that fatwa PUBLIC across all Pakistan and institutions and in your branches of military and intelligence as well. Average joe should read that in simple language. Propagate it through every single media/medium.

2. Don't send Asia bibi to west...DON'T DO THAT unless you want another face in west to humiliate Pakistan on international front like Hussain haqqani or Malala.

Malala may was not involved deliberately in maligning Pakistan but she did give impression that girls struggle in Pakistan when going to education. West is using her to tarnish image of Pakistan and will use Asia too against Pakistan...Take that Asia into protective custody. DON'T send her abroad.

3. There should be coordination b/w Gov't, judiciary and your institution regarding sensitive or international issues. This verdict could have delayed until Khan's visit was over but alas !!!

4. Go hard on corrupt....Hanging sword on Zardaris won't do good but frustrate common people....Just drop that sword. Remove these corrupt bastards....

5. Time to nurture groups against political parties have gone....If you really want to nurture, go for educated nationalists and patriotic Pakistanis who have understanding of affairs rather than lifting and banking on Jahil Mullahs.

6. Don't ever compromise on corrupt people and never help them in getting back to power. Give 200% support to Khan and his all agendas. That Khan you won't get again. Neutralize his enemies because he is honest and patriot and because it is YOUR DUTY to safeguard Pakistan from internal and external haramis.

7. Don't take support from common people for granted. People have started to openly criticize you on channels/media inside and outside. Only Patriots are shielding you, everywhere. Hear your fan base and drop nukes on corrupt assholes. Your fanbase wants patriots at the helms not corrupt bastards. Right now, you are entertaining everyone but your own fanbase and this is not right.

8. If you're not noticing it but you will see that game is being played in Afghanistan and Pakistan...India is totally safe or being protected. International players want to see Pakistan stuck into Afghan related mess hence ignoring economy and India. You need to ask the question to yourself...Why people are comparing Pakistan and Afghanistan? because it is part of hybrid warfare to portray Pakistan as lawless jungle as Afghanistan is. Only if you care about your country's image perception, things will become far better. Don't talk too much of Afghanistan or war on terror. It hurts your country's image. Don't need to remind world of your sacrifices. Lets create more badass and innovative narrative about Pakistan rather than just associating Pakistan with war and other damn stuff. **** that.

9. I repeat again...Khan should never be allowed to destabilized. Opposition should be checkmated till 10 - 15 years or may be more. We just got a honest leader. Give all your guns to him. Help in his anti corruption agenda.

10. And the last point.......

BE PROACTIVE....SEEK OPPORTUNITIES....SHUN PASSIVE MINDSET....

AND

CREATE YOUR FEAR IN HEARTS OF ENEMIES.


Regards,
Your well wisher

Allah bless Pakistan and its People and Armed Forces
​

Remember, Mr. Jinnah is reading you

@Indus Pakistan @MastanKhan @Oscar @Horus @LoveIcon and other Pakistanis

Do you still think there is a deep state?

 

[TMA]

Hello GHQ,

From Karachi here.

It was a nasty week. Chaos was there and people were in shock. The outcome of this can be debated and is being debated...**** that debate. What have we learnt from all this? What should we do from now on? Lets discuss that.

1. Take all genuine Ulema i.e Tariq Jameel...on board all across Pakistan....Make them give fatwa about the security and holiness of Pakistan as a state. Make them give fatwa about how it is haram to pick up arms against own very Islamic republic. How it is haram to cause chaos and disrupt live of countrymen. Make that fatwa PUBLIC across all Pakistan and institutions and in your branches of military and intelligence as well. Average joe should read that in simple language. Propagate it through every single media/medium.

2. Don't send Asia bibi to west...DON'T DO THAT unless you want another face in west to humiliate Pakistan on international front like Hussain haqqani or Malala.

Malala may was not involved deliberately in maligning Pakistan but she did give impression that girls struggle in Pakistan when going to education. West is using her to tarnish image of Pakistan and will use Asia too against Pakistan...Take that Asia into protective custody. DON'T send her abroad.

3. There should be coordination b/w Gov't, judiciary and your institution regarding sensitive or international issues. This verdict could have delayed until Khan's visit was over but alas !!!

4. Go hard on corrupt....Hanging sword on Zardaris won't do good but frustrate common people....Just drop that sword. Remove these corrupt bastards....

5. Time to nurture groups against political parties have gone....If you really want to nurture, go for educated nationalists and patriotic Pakistanis who have understanding of affairs rather than lifting and banking on Jahil Mullahs.

6. Don't ever compromise on corrupt people and never help them in getting back to power. Give 200% support to Khan and his all agendas. That Khan you won't get again. Neutralize his enemies because he is honest and patriot and because it is YOUR DUTY to safeguard Pakistan from internal and external haramis.

7. Don't take support from common people for granted. People have started to openly criticize you on channels/media inside and outside. Only Patriots are shielding you, everywhere. Hear your fan base and drop nukes on corrupt assholes. Your fanbase wants patriots at the helms not corrupt bastards. Right now, you are entertaining everyone but your own fanbase and this is not right.

8. If you're not noticing it but you will see that game is being played in Afghanistan and Pakistan...India is totally safe or being protected. International players want to see Pakistan stuck into Afghan related mess hence ignoring economy and India. You need to ask the question to yourself...Why people are comparing Pakistan and Afghanistan? because it is part of hybrid warfare to portray Pakistan as lawless jungle as Afghanistan is. Only if you care about your country's image perception, things will become far better. Don't talk too much of Afghanistan or war on terror. It hurts your country's image. Don't need to remind world of your sacrifices. Lets create more badass and innovative narrative about Pakistan rather than just associating Pakistan with war and other damn stuff. **** that.

9. I repeat again...Khan should never be allowed to destabilized. Opposition should be checkmated till 10 - 15 years or may be more. We just got a honest leader. Give all your guns to him. Help in his anti corruption agenda.

10. And the last point.......

BE PROACTIVE....SEEK OPPORTUNITIES....SHUN PASSIVE MINDSET....

AND

CREATE YOUR FEAR IN HEARTS OF ENEMIES.


Regards,
Your well wisher

Allah bless Pakistan and its People and Armed Forces
​

Remember, Mr. Jinnah is reading you

@Indus Pakistan @MastanKhan @Oscar @Horus @LoveIcon and other Pakistanis

Also these dumb dumbs are financed and supported by external factors as well....and our bloody media gives more fuel to them....

 

[ghazi52]