Pakistan Could Have Technical Edge on Indian Air Force Despite Rafale Jet Deployment: IAF Veteran

[ziaulislam]

Pilot is not junk but aircraft is. These airframes are at least 40 years old, mostly 50 years old . They might have gotten the bison upgrade or whatever but they are still junk. There is simply no money to purchase new aircraft. Most of the defence budget is spent on paying salaries and pensions.

So air chief who states otherwise is lying

Rafaele with spectre is a very good plane.. but Indians will have edge over Pak in air war not because of Rafaele or spectre..

its the girth of pakistan thats the problem for airforce we dont have much land horizontally speaking so with scalp and stormshadow can cause some serious damage to our ground assets but there is a way out of this problem

Same is true for india..we can cause havoc with pakistani storm shadow aka raad 2

 

[Wood]

Rafaele with spectre is a very good plane.. but Indians will have edge over Pak in air war not because of Rafaele or spectre..

its the girth of pakistan thats the problem for airforce we dont have much land horizontally speaking so with scalp and stormshadow can cause some serious damage to our ground assets but there is a way out of this problem

With Taliban in control of Afghanistan, your strategic depth will be restored.

 

[Sulemanms202]

and it will be further strengthened with khalistan!

 

[PakSword]

Pakistan's loss.

1) Had to provide free medical for Wing commander
2) Had to provide free tea. He had 8 cups during his stay in Pakistan
3) Had to provide sooper biscuits (served along with tea)
4) Had to provide a total of 5 Meals.
5) Mig 21 Debris transport to a designated location.
6) 2 x AMRAAMs

It requires more than basic mathematics to stomach these losses. It requires a functioning brain with emotional intelligence on top of IQ.

This ladies and gentlemen is called a bargain.

You forgot to mention fuel cost in PAF planes too.

 

[Areesh]

Those who clearances to attend such briefings dont boast about them on the internet.

And they are definitely not a multiple ID rat like @silent_poison getting humiliated on a Pakistani forum again and again with different IDs

 

[airomerix]

Rafaele with spectre is a very good plane.. but Indians will have edge over Pak in air war not because of Rafaele or spectre..

its the girth of pakistan thats the problem for airforce we dont have much land horizontally speaking so with scalp and stormshadow can cause some serious damage to our ground assets but there is a way out of this problem

True.

However, contrary to what most people think. PAF is not a defensive force. Launching preemptive strikes on high value indian targets is what we have always preferred.

IAF can launch a plethora of storm shadow missiles, we have a weapon with a small destruction radius, yet with ability to evaporate every living thing in that area with a pin point accuracy. The favor will be returned to Indian military without harming Indian civilians.

 

[Kabotar]

This is all classified information for now. Even I do not know. Neither they would tell anyone. Things will be clear by the end of the year hopefully.



The range had barely to do with anything.

Su 30's couldn't hear anything neither they could see much. Indian pilots are not used to flying without instructions from radar controllers. Furthermore, radar locks from multiple PAF aircraft including thunders and vipers meant certain death for both of these Su-30's. One escaped and the lead was shot down as soon as he tried paint S/L Hassans F-16.

Furthermore, lack of support from retreating Mirage 2000's was also a cause. Mirage 2000's were jammed and locked by our very own - JF-17s. The authorizations didnt go through. Otherwise, there were 9 kills for that day - 5 Mig 21's, 2 Su's and 2 Mirage 2000's.



Thank you. Its an honor

Hoping to see conceptual design at IDEAS 2020.

 

[krash]

Only Pakistanis would feel any sort of pride at shooting down a 60 year old jet with a 300,000$ BVR missile . Like honestly, the 2 missiles were more expensive than the jet itself. Wow what an impressive accomplishment. Almost as brave as the D Day landings or the Red Army's fight against Germany.

AIM-120C : $300,000

Indian Mig-21 Bison: $10-20 million

A cup of tea for Abhinandan: $0.3

A sour Indian's last desperate attempts at saving face after being brought down to where he belongs: Priceless


There are somethings money can't buy. For everything else, there's

*I do not work for mastercard and am not trying to advertise for them.

 

[s@@d]

AIM-120C : $300,000

Indian Mig-21 Bison: $10-20 million

A cup of tea for Abhinandan: $0.3

A sour Indian's last desperate attempts at saving face after being brought down to where he belongs: Priceless


There are somethings money can't buy. For everything else, there's

*I do not work for mastercard and am not trying to advertise for them.

best reply..
one could see reply like this in months... awla...

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

we have a weapon with a small destruction radius, yet with ability to evaporate every living thing in that area with a pin point accuracy.

Nuclear Capable Air Launched Missile?

 

[GumNaam]

Nuclear Capable Air Launched Missile?

NASR - 30 seconds after launch, indian infantry & armored divisions get barbequed. then we simply walk in and take what we want.

 

[ColonelSanders]

The one who is wromg is Vijainder Thakur not air chief.
Air chief is right that not 36 Rafales are enough and we need more Rafales or siminlar jets and also upgrade other jets with loger range astra AAMs

But why not more mig 21s? Did a mig not defeat F16?

 

[GumNaam]

But why not more mig 21s? Did a mig not defeat F16?

it did...but then the pilot woke up from his wet dream and found an AMRAAM going up his arse!

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Also all Pakistanis posters should keep in mind even with 5:1 ratio in north F-16 wanted just 2 MKI out of contested area by firing Aim-120C5 from 80km+ distances these shots were not for kill it was to keep MKI away from area so targets can be locked in ground. But before guidance was given fully Mig-21s spoiled that chance.

You are trying to come across as smarty pants but in your over enthusiasm forgetting that PAF released the video of smart SOW with onboard camera locking the ground target and then steered towards inhibited area nearby for impact.

Do you lot actually think before you feel the urge to type?

 

[Tumba]

You are trying to come across as smarty pants but in your over enthusiasm forgetting that PAF released the video of smart SOW with onboard camera locking the ground target and then steered towards inhibited area nearby for impact.

Do you lot actually think before you feel the urge to type?

Targeting a ground target from a fighter jet merely 7-8 kms from LOC ... an unnecessary and stupid strategy...
Same can be accomplished using Mortars and 155 mm guns... Indian 155mm guns are actively targeting... Excalibur shells inside LoC from a good time now..30-40 kms regularly...

Rest the way situation is developed... another showdown is almost certain so things will get much more clearer next time who has edge