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Pakistan confirms that it will purchase two 054A frigates from China to reach 4 in 3 years

Better to have aircraft carrier, but we need to be realistic!
By taking every things in to account and make the

best decision!

1)India has aircraft carrier earlier than China. What about it?
India's economy is not good, and its own shipbuilding capacity is weak. China's second aircraft carrier has been built well already. The India-made aircraft carrier, which is eight years ahead of China, has not yet been finished.
I can stand here and say: After China's third carrier been built, India's first domestic aircraft carrier will still not enter into service! Because this is a symbol of national strength!

As the large number of equipment on the Indian aircraft carrier needs to be purchased from foreign countries (U.K., Italy, Russia, Spain, and South Korea), this wastes too much time.
According to my observation, it usually takes three years for China to build a carrier and India needs 12 years.
2)The Pakistan Navy should select the best naval equipment within its own budget capacity.


The 054A frigate has been constructed for a total number of 32 ships, and its superior performance has been fully demonstrated in anti-piracy and multiple military exercises in the Gulf of Aden.

Around the world, the 054A frigate is located among the best frigates.

And relatively speaking, the 054A frigates are also cheaper. Even My Indian friends told me that if China allows, the Indian Navy would also like to purchase the 054A frigates, unfortunately China does not permit it.
 
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Better to have aircraft carrier, but we need to be realistic!
By taking every things in to account and make the

best decision!

1)India has aircraft carrier earlier than China. What about it?
India's economy is not good, and its own shipbuilding capacity is weak. China's second aircraft carrier has been built well already. The India-made aircraft carrier, which is eight years ahead of China, has not yet been finished.
I can stand here and say: After China's third carrier been built, India's first domestic aircraft carrier will still not enter into service! Because this is a symbol of national strength!

As the large number of equipment on the Indian aircraft carrier needs to be purchased from foreign countries (U.K., Italy, Russia, Spain, and South Korea), this wastes too much time.
According to my observation, it usually takes three years for China to build a carrier and India needs 12 years.
2)The Pakistan Navy should select the best naval equipment within its own budget capacity.


The 054A frigate has been constructed for a total number of 32 ships, and its superior performance has been fully demonstrated in anti-piracy and multiple military exercises in the Gulf of Aden.

Around the world, the 054A frigate is located among the best frigates.

And relatively speaking, the 054A frigates are also cheaper. Even My Indian friends told me that if China allows, the Indian Navy would also like to purchase the 054A frigates, unfortunately China does not permit it.
Said Russia is interested in it.
 
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In order not to lose face,Russia will not purchase Chinese naval weapons in the near future(5 to 10 years). Before 2000, Russia had always been a teacher of China. Russia’s purchase of a Chinese warship would show that Russia was not able to make on it own and Russia would not buy Chinese weapons unless it was forced.

It is believed that Russia would buy China’s unmanned UVAs, because they really have no choice.

I believe that Russia will buy Chinese military UVAs drones, but in order not to lose face, Russia will not purchase large Chinese warships within five to ten years(maybe they will buy Type 057 frigate in the next 15 years), but will purchase spare parts, such as diesel engine complete sets of equipment maby by China Henan Diesel Engine Company.

Russian battleship has installed Chinese engine

xuTl-fyrkuxs2548297.jpg

High-speed marine diesel engine produced by China was assembled on the Russian “Mug-M” Type 21631 light frigate, which initially alleviated the urgent need for Russia’s “ships without a engine”.
 
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Right now Type 54A is still under construction, it still be the backbone of PLaN within the next 20 years.

We don't see a single type 54B(some said its type 57)rolling out until yet.

@rcrmj Bro, can you shed some lights on Type 54B development?
2019, maybe you wont get satisfied by its exterior, however, whats inside are :tup::tup::tup:

Is it more expensive to purchase newer types? Why would Pakistan go for a ship that PLAN has moved on from?
PLAN bought 32 of them!! PLAN is most spoiled unit of PLA```now they like the biggest and the best, and they want to lead the ocean```054A is one of the best, otherwise they wont order 32 of them, and similar number of B version```

Russia will not purchase Chinese naval weapons in the near future. Before 2000, Russia had always been a teacher of China. Russia’s purchase of a Chinese warship would show that Russia was not able to make on it own and Russia would not buy Chinese weapons unless it was forced. (It is believed that Russia will not buy Chinese weapons unless it was forced.

It is believed that Russia would buy China’s unmanned UVAs, because they really have no choice.

I believe that Russia will buy Chinese military UVAs drones, but in order not to lose face, Russia will not purchase large Chinese warships within five to ten years(maybe they will buy Type 057 frigate in the next 15 years), but will purchase spare parts, such as diesel engine complete sets of equipment used by China Henan Diesel Engine Company.
Russia has already bought advanced parts for their weapon systems, and the volume increases year on year```it is matter of time that they would buy a complete weapon system from China```

India's economy is not good, and its own shipbuilding capacity is weak. China's second aircraft carrier has been built well already. The India-made aircraft carrier, which is eight years ahead of China, has not yet been finished.
I can stand here and say: After China's third carrier been built, India's first domestic aircraft carrier will still not enter into service! Because this is a symbol of national strength!

just want to add on that````three massive skeleton frames have been put up, not for too long, the main hull will be all straight up```````````````your bet has a very good perspective`:lol:
 
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Is it more expensive to purchase newer types? Why would Pakistan go for a ship that PLAN has moved on from?
Even it’s move on, it’s still a formidable platform compare to others.

I give you an example. Since F-16 is so beloved by pakistanis. Can you all admit F-16 is a crapped despite having F-22?

No. You all will still praised F-16 like godsend.

In order not to lose face,Russia will not purchase Chinese naval weapons in the near future(5 to 10 years). Before 2000, Russia had always been a teacher of China. Russia’s purchase of a Chinese warship would show that Russia was not able to make on it own and Russia would not buy Chinese weapons unless it was forced.

It is believed that Russia would buy China’s unmanned UVAs, because they really have no choice.

I believe that Russia will buy Chinese military UVAs drones, but in order not to lose face, Russia will not purchase large Chinese warships within five to ten years(maybe they will buy Type 057 frigate in the next 15 years), but will purchase spare parts, such as diesel engine complete sets of equipment maby by China Henan Diesel Engine Company.

Russian battleship has installed Chinese engine

xuTl-fyrkuxs2548297.jpg

High-speed marine diesel engine produced by China was assembled on the Russian “Mug-M” Type 21631 light frigate, which initially alleviated the urgent need for Russia’s “ships without a engine”.
Russian has too much ego. They shall learn to be practical and swallow down some of their pride.

Their defense budget is shrinking everyday. Their navy will soon turn into rubbish given this rate.
 
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If type054B will look something like this, I will be satisfied :)

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what kind of fanaticism are you talking about?

I didn't want to mess up the thread. That's the reason I posted in Chinese to my fellow countrymen.

But since you asked, I'll do my best to explain.

There are times in this forum when religion is brought up, there will always be an agree or disagree between Chinese members and Pakistani members. Yes, we are time tested friends but this is the ONLY one hurdle where we must over come - religion.
To me, religion means nothing, but this is ONE big blockade and ONE big difference. Unless we can get rid of it, it's gonna be very hard to completely connect.
So there you are....
 
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我不认为这是可能的. 除非他们摆脱了他们的狂热.
你不用担心,他们也有种族问题。如果、他们想打中国的分裂。这个王牌是我们也可以拿出来的玩的。
 
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Even it’s move on, it’s still a formidable platform compare to others.

I give you an example. Since F-16 is so beloved by pakistanis. Can you all admit F-16 is a crapped despite having F-22?

No. You all will still praised F-16 like godsend.


Russian has too much ego. They shall learn to be practical and swallow down some of their pride.

Their defense budget is shrinking everyday. Their navy will soon turn into rubbish given this rate.
Don't worry Russia, they never die.

I didn't want to mess up the thread. That's the reason I posted in Chinese to my fellow countrymen.

But since you asked, I'll do my best to explain.

There are times in this forum when religion is brought up, there will always be an agree or disagree between Chinese members and Pakistani members. Yes, we are time tested friends but this is the ONLY one hurdle where we must over come - religion.
To me, religion means nothing, but this is ONE big blockade and ONE big difference. Unless we can get rid of it, it's gonna be very hard to completely connect.
So there you are....
You can be atheist, and Pakistanis can be Muslim. We don't interfere with each other.
 
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你不用担心,他们也有种族问题。如果、他们想打中国的分裂。这个王牌是我们也可以拿出来的玩的。

You can be atheist, and Pakistanis can be Muslim. We don't interfere with each other.
Okay, let's leave it at that.
Don't want to mess up the thread.
 
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