Pakistan conducted another successful test fire of indigenously developed Submarine Launched Cruise

[Eagle_Nest]

i mean climbing and accelerating phase just before it goes to sea skimming phase just my 2 cent bro @Eagle_Nest

I am not expert though.. it was just my observation.. waiting for some profrssional to shed some light on it

 

[krash]

From what I have gleaned Pak nuclear triad doesn't come close to meeting international standards at this stage. You guys need nuclear powered submarines

Glad you could enlighten us. However, 1) What have you gleaned? 2) What are the international standards of nuclear triad? and 3) What is the significance of a nuclear powered submarine for establishing a nuclear triad?

 

[HariPrasad]

Congrats guys.

 

[kabooter_maila]

Glad you could enlighten us. However, 1) What have you gleaned? 2) What are the international standards of nuclear triad? and 3) What is the significance of a nuclear powered submarine for establishing a nuclear triad?

He probably meant that Pakistan failed in parading the missile on a truck like the Indians have been doing with Teenja. For these retard Indians that means international standard.

 

[FuturePAF]

bhai, just a start. Saber!

Let the system get matured with thorough testing and than of course future tests will be conducted with longer range

The Babur III SLCM (450 Km) is the best system to test command and control for a second strike capability
Going through the testing for a continuity of power/redundancy issuing authenticated orders via secure channels to submarines somewhere in the Indian ocean while radiation after a first strike is degrading normal communications channels, and having the crew launch successfully and striking as soon as an order is given works out the reliability of the system

this is the software that is needed to allow the effectiveness when the SLBMs become avialable
working this out over the next 5 years should a core competency of the SPD

for the land force; a robust road mobile system based out of Russian Iskander launchers
and for the air force; austere bases set up in remote mountain valleys with ready made landing strips just long enough to recieve (from hidden near by under ground bunkers) and launch JF-17s equipped with Ra'Ad missiles

also making the jf-17 capable of taking off and landing at short runaways like the gripen

if these kinds of small organizational and key low key investments re done, it will be an order of magnitude improvement to the robustness of the deterrent; much more then simple fielding SLBMs without working out the coordination.

 

[syed_yusuf]

The Babur III SLCM (450 Km) is the best system to test command and control for a second strike capability
Going through the testing for a continuity of power/redundancy issuing authenticated orders via secure channels to submarines somewhere in the Indian ocean while radiation after a first strike is degrading normal communications channels, and having the crew launch successfully and striking as soon as an order is given works out the reliability of the system

this is the software that is needed to allow the effectiveness when the SLBMs become avialable
working this out over the next 5 years should a core competency of the SPD

for the land force; a robust road mobile system based out of Russian Iskander launchers
and for the air force; austere bases set up in remote mountain valleys with ready made landing strips just long enough to recieve (from hidden near by under ground bunkers) and launch JF-17s equipped with Ra'Ad missiles

also making the jf-17 capable of taking off and landing at short runaways like the gripen

if these kinds of small organizational and key low key investments re done, it will be an order of magnitude improvement to the robustness of the deterrent; much more then simple fielding SLBMs without working out the coordination.

very well said.

it is deterrence and preparedness.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Glad you could enlighten us. However, 1) What have you gleaned? 2) What are the international standards of nuclear triad? and 3) What is the significance of a nuclear powered submarine for establishing a nuclear triad?

international standards means by her = 5 failed C.M tests.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Good one
Any update of nuclear submarine? Now we can put ICBM,s on that submarine means even uncle sam won,t be safe in future.That will definitely keep all NATO allies out of our region.

 

[IceCold]

Good one
Any update of nuclear submarine? Now we can put ICBM,s on that submarine means even uncle sam won,t be safe in future.That will definitely keep all NATO allies out of our region.

Before we do that we need to develop a pair. None of the political or the military establishment has that for now.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Before we do that we need to develop a pair. None of the political or the military establishment has that for now.

lol you cannot even imagine the size of pair our military leaders and planners have.Though i agree politicians are cowards and selfish people. I can quote several incidents where we showed uncle sam our pair when it was necessary to do so.

 

[Verve]

Allahu Akbar.

Mashallah.

 

[war&peace]

Glad you could enlighten us. However, 1) What have you gleaned? 2) What are the international standards of nuclear triad? and 3) What is the significance of a nuclear powered submarine for establishing a nuclear triad?

We know the IQ-level of the "experts" from Gangadesh, the crowd is teeming with "Ein-shite-ins", mijjal ka rang "orange" ke baad "laal" hogia, phir "brown" hogia...

international standards means by her = 5 failed C.M tests.

Well that's Gangadeshi Standard.. not international I must say..

 

[The Deterrent]

Tidbits:

1. On 29th March 2018 Pakistan Navy conducted the first, completely successful, flight trial of the Babur-III SLCM from an operational vessel. However the ambiguity in nomenclature for the launch platform will be officially maintained. All kinds of doubts and denial (from the other side of the border) on weapon integration with an operational vessel should be put to rest. Of course a few more trials will be required before initiating production and subsequent induction.

2. A clearer boost-phase video reveals the SLCM launch mechanism. The encapsulated weapon is ejected by a torpedo tube, after which the single booster ignites under water and propels the weapon out of the water. As the weapon ascends, the capsule slides off, the booster separates and wings/air intake deploy.

3. The range limit is 450km, imposed by the physical restrictions of the torpedo tube of the operational vessel.

@The Deterrent No NavArea Warnings. This is likely tested in the earlier series of tests. Video released today.

Excuse me for the late reply. No, this time again PN chose not to publish the Navigational Warning online, just like back when Shaheen-III's first test flight was getting delayed. The reason is not known, we've probably being bothering them a lot lately.
The test flight was conducted at the date of the press release. A corresponding NOTAM for that date (for the sake of an online "link") can be seen below. However, the video is not completely new, its easy to figure out which part is old.
https://www.caapakistan.com.pk/upload/Notams/A0291-18.txt

@Arsalan

I dont know if you have observed the weird coincidence but last time America announced sanctions on NESCOM and related entities in December 2016, Pakistan revealed BABUR-III and Ababeel existence very next month

America sanctioned 7 Pakistan nuclear related entities last week . Pakistan announced the test of Babur-III shortly afterwards. Let's see if we see Ababeel test or not

These coincidences are just coincidences. Missile development requires serious project planning and like any other project, has milestones and deadlines, independent of the political signalling. Pakistan withholds confirmation of only unsuccessful tests (with the exception of classified systems).

Intake isn't the point man. It's just an additional point, hence especially.
(A submerged intake gives extra advantage.)

Pakistan is working on reducing Babur family's RCS using various means such as the one being referred to here.

 

[Safriz]

fOR REFERENCE AND COMPARISON

Btw, comparatively the tomahawk uses a very simple system. There is no sleeve, just a cover over the air intake.

The French use encapsulation on their MDCN cruise missile,

 

[AUz]

3. The range limit is 450km, imposed by the physical restrictions of the torpedo tube of the operational vessel.

Does that mean that with purchase of new submarines from China, Pakistan can deploy longer range Baburs on its submarines?