Pakistan Concerned Over US-India Military Ties

[equiliz3r]

India poverty rate is not 25%. That poverty rate line is most likely very narrow line not reflecting the real poverty.

Reuters AlertNet - India PM says development gap threatening security

800 million indians live below less than 50 cents per day. Global poverty line is $1 a day. You know the real numbers now.

we are not even spending 3% of GDP on defence!!!!!

Indian govt. has launched many programmes to support poors in rural area .....Main one is NREGA

 

[Red Dwarf]

we are not even spending 3% of GDP on defence!!!!!

Indian govt. has launched many programmes to support poors in rural area .....Main one is NREGA

Are you mad to educate these retards. All these morons are here to discuss India's poverty in this so called defense forum.

 

[RiazHaq]

Padosi ke ghar mein jhankne se accha hai apna ghar theek karo..

Please refer to my posts in the thread about India inking deals worth 50billion in last decade. You will find out details from non India sources about the level of poverty , economic stability, health spending, child mortality in India and how it compares with pakistan.
Attaching the summary here


Pop Below poverty line.. India 25%, Pak 24%

Life expectancy at birth.. India 70, Pak 64

N'joy

Your data is wrong. Here are the basic social indicators with sources cited:

Population living under $1.25 a day - India: 41.6% Pakistan: 22.6% Source: UNDP

Underweight Children Under Five (in percent) Pakistan 38% India 46% Source: UNICEF

Life expectancy at birth (years), 2007 India: 63.4 Pakistan: 66.2 Source: HDR2009

Education:

Youth (15–24 years) literacy rate, 2000 to 2007, male Pakistan: 80% India 87% Source: UNICEF

Youth (15–24 years) literacy rate, 2000 to 2007, female Pakistan 60% India 77% Source: UNICEF

Economics:

GDP per capita (US$), 2008 Pak:$1000-1022 India $1017-1100

Child Protection:

Child marriage under 15-years ; 1998–2007*, total Pakistan - 32% India - 47% Source: UNICEF

Under-5 mortality rate per 1000 live births (2007), Value Pakistan - 90 India 72 Source: UNICEF


Last year, Indian Planning Commission member Syeda Hameed acknowledged that India is worse than Bangladesh and Pakistan when it comes to nourishment and is showing little improvement.

Speaking at a conference on "Malnutrition an emergency: what it costs the nation", she said even Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during interactions with the Planning Commission has described malnourishment as the "blackest mark".

"I should not compare. But countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka are better," she said. The conference was organized last year by the Confederation of Indian Industry and the Ministry of Development of Northeastern Region.

According to India's Family Health Survey, almost 46 percent of children under the age of three are undernourished - an improvement of just one percent in the last seven years. This is only a shade better than Sub-Saharan Africa where about 35 percent of children are malnourished.

The UN Millennium Develop Goals listed below remain distant for the Indian people:

1 Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
2 Achieve universal primary education
3 Promote gender equality and empower women
4 Reduce child mortality
5 Improve maternal health
6 Combat HIV/Aids, malaria, and other diseases
7 Ensure environmental sustainability
8 Develop a global partnership for development

Ranked at 45 on PHI index, Pakistan is well ahead of India at number 62, and it is included in the medium performing countries. PHI is a new composite indicator – the Poverty and Hunger Index (PHI) – developed to measure countries’ performance towards achieving MDG1 on halving poverty and hunger by 2015. The PHI combines all five official MDG1 indicators, including a) the proportion of population living on less than US$ 1/day, b) poverty gap ratio, c) share of the poorest quintile in national income or consumption, d) prevalence of underweight in children under five years of age, and d) the proportion of population undernourished.

About one-third of the world's extremely poor people live in India. More than 450 million Indians exist on less than $1.25 a day, according to the World Bank. It also has a higher proportion of its population living on less than $2 per day than even sub-Saharan Africa. India has about 42% of the population living below the new international poverty line of $1.25 per day. The number of Indian poor also constitute 33% of the global poor, which is pegged at 1.4 billion people, according to a Times of India news report. More than 6 million of those desperately poor Indians live in Mumbai alone, representing about half the residents of the nation's financial capital. They live in super-sized slums and improvised housing juxtaposed with the shining new skyscrapers that symbolize India's resurgence. According to the World Bank and the UN Development Program (UNDP), 22% of Pakistan's population is classified as poor.

There is widespread hunger and malnutrition in all parts of India. India ranks 66th on the 2008 Global Hunger Index of 88 countries while Pakistan is slightly better at 61 and Bangladesh slightly worse at 70. The first India State Hunger Index (Ishi) report in 2008 found that Madhya Pradesh had the most severe level of hunger in India, comparable to Chad and Ethiopia. Four states — Punjab, Kerala, Haryana and Assam — fell in the 'serious' category. "Affluent" Gujarat, 13th on the Indian list is below Haiti, ranked 69. The authors said India's poor performance was primarily due to its relatively high levels of child malnutrition and under-nourishment resulting from calorie deficient diets.

India might be an emerging economic power, but it is way behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and even Afghanistan in providing basic sanitation facilities, a key reason behind the death of 2.1 million children under five in the country.

Lizette Burgers, chief of water and environment sanitation of the Unicef, recently said India is making progress in providing sanitation but it lags behind most of the other countries in South Asia. A former Indian minister Mr Raghuvansh Prasad Singh told the BBC that more than 65% of India's rural population defecated in the open, along roadsides, railway tracks and fields, generating huge amounts of excrement every day.

Haq's Musings: India and Pakistan Contrasted in 2010

 

[Naradmuni]

@ Riaz stop promoting your stupid crappy blog using

Its very amusing each time you post your so called "musings" as a source to be taken seriously like a distinguished proof, by everyone around here. Every BS that exists on a fancy blog need not be a valid source for citing such international statistical details.

Maybe citing repectable sources would make your argument look more sensible. Thanks.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Riazhaq, are you the guy from haq's musings?

 

[RiazHaq]

The US and Russian support is emboldening India's military, and its leadership has already started saber rattling against Pakistan and China. Recently, Lt-General A S Lamba of Indian Army has been quoted by the India media as boating about a "massive thrust into Rawalpindi to quiet Pakistanis within 48 hours of the start of assault." Indian Army chief General Deepak Kapoor has said India is ready for a “the successful firming-up of the cold start strategy (to be able to go to war promptly) in the multiple fronts against multiple different militias at the same time.” General Kapoor has talked about taking on China and Pakistan at the same time.

Such an arms buildup by India is sure to threaten India's neighbors and fuel an arms race that South Asians can ill afford with widespread abject poverty, hunger, malnutrition and very low levels of human development.

Haq's Musings: Growing India-US Military Ties Worry Pakistan

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

Pakistan has a very grave reason to worry about ... The Fact that US providing red hot weapons to India which is viewed by many in Pakistan as its enemy is tantamount to back stabbing Pakistan . I dont think whatever the Yanks agenda is , but to me all these look like a tactics to bring Pakistan in the compliance mode in which it once was with the US . Recent refusal of the US demands and other irritants have pushed the yanks to develop strong ties with India so that they could carry on with their agenda inside Afghanistan(Pipelanistan). India offers a great opportunity as it deems to have a greater influence not just in south Asia but also in CAR .
But let me warn the Indians who are jumping up and down in new lovestory btw US and India . US dosent gives its wepons without the attached conditions and specially its moderen weapons . What will be the conditions upon which the US would be giving india these wepons ..Policing Afghanistan ...! Further even if India has such wepons does it guarantees its complete security and its capability to further enhance its role in Afghanistan , I guess not . Instead of establishing Peace India is on a destructive course ...!

 

[Moorkh]

scrolled dowwn to find who wrote the article

read this :

Haq's Musings: Indian Arms Build Up Prelude to South Asian Arms Race

decided the article was not worth the time

 

[equiliz3r]

Pakistan has a very grave reason to worry about ... The Fact that US providing red hot weapons to India which is viewed by many in Pakistan as its enemy is tantamount to back stabbing Pakistan . I dont think whatever the Yanks agenda is , but to me all these look like a tactics to bring Pakistan in the compliance mode in which it once was with the US . Recent refusal of the US demands and other irritants have pushed the yanks to develop strong ties with India so that they could carry on with their agenda inside Afghanistan(Pipelanistan). India offers a great opportunity as it deems to have a greater influence not just in south Asia but also in CAR .
But let me warn the Indians who are jumping up and down in new lovestory btw US and India . US dosent gives its wepons without the attached conditions and specially its moderen weapons . What will be the conditions upon which the US would be giving india these wepons ..Policing Afghanistan ...! Further even if India has such wepons does it guarantees its complete security and its capability to further enhance its role in Afghanistan , I guess not . Instead of establishing Peace India is on a destructive course ...!

We are also buying weapons from Russia, Isreal, France, etc etc.......Mate why you are not worry about it????................or you are worried only because USA is not willing to share it with pakistan????

Russia is still largest defence partner of India

 

[Hulk]

We have done risk mitigation, we do not have to worry about it.
On the other hand our airforce is depleting, navy does not have enough warship, submarines, our tanks does not have night vision, our rifles are failed our missiles are dude so we need to spend on military.