Pakistan Clarifies Conditions for Tactical Nuclear Weapon Use Against India

[dev_moh]

if Pakistan is gonna use the nukes, they better use the real ones instead of tactical.
because response from India will be same.
No matter if you use small yield or high yield,
Response will be full on nuclear retaliation.

 

[thrilainmanila]

India is the biggest improter of arms globally, it buys weapons from israel, russia, america and the EU. They basically are arming themselves and getting ready for something big, as if there hindustan is near the verge of extinction from a massive outside attack, what choice does that leave pakistan, when you have a neighbour whos basically threated you're sovereignty and has a plan to attack in the near future, can anyone blame pakistan for using the nuclear card? when there is a giant country whos basically spending atleast 40 billion a year on its army the only option is the nuclear option,

 

[war&peace]

good...

Only pakistan says india is terrorist country but pakistan shelters all kind of banned outfits.
Come i will accept your existence not from heart ..but from kidney.
And you want us to accept from HEART even after a serial called 26/11..in which directors,producer,stunt man,actors were from our western peaceful neighbours a.k.a land of pure

Pakistan invaded kashmir at first.If you guys had stayed away from kashmir ..now it would be a haven..don't try to be saviour..u wolf in sheep's fur.

U slapped me I kicked you your nuts.simple

Who asked u to perform mega stunts?

I condemn this attack.even i felt bad and even we lost many people in mumbai (26/11) which was carried by angels from mars.

Maharashtra

Many pandits lost their livelihood .

Proof man!!!

Oh! like RAW's Dossier what you guys gave to US?


We don't need agni-v to hit lahore from kanyakumari.agni-I/II will do the job from thar desert..

A hindu has to be either a born liar or just brainwashed and taught wrong history....Whatever....We have the answer...and it is nukes

 

[Farah Sohail]

But india have no conditions for nuclear policies.
Our policy is simple and straight, any use of nukes, tactical or low yield, india will only reply by using full scale nuclear attack, and wipe out the enemy country completely.

This is exactly what tactical nuclear weapons are meant for.. To counter or deter cold start doctrine... Because the main premise of cold start is tht india to punish pakistan and capture territory or achieve its objective of hot pursuit or whatever in a short time while not crossing nuclear threshold... Short, swift punishment to Pakistan, as what Indians would like to have it..... But Pakistans policy of tactical nuclear weapons and indian policy in response to reply by full scale nuclear weapons ensures tht the conflict would no longer remain short, or limited, as indians would have liked it to remain.. Rather it will expand into full scale war..which opposes the very purpose of cold start doctrine..because cold start doctrine was intended / meant to be a doctrine tht would not escalate to full scale nuclear war rather it will be a limited war within nuclear threshold... So u see the point now? Nasr has made cold start doctrine useless..by acting as a deterrent to cold start... This is exactly what Nasr was meant for.. Dont come in the hope of short /limited war under the pretext of some cold start doctrine... Come only, if u are prepared for mutually assured destruction of both countries.. So indians will think 100 times before even doing something rather than be in some fictitious hope of punishing Pakistan in a short / limited war

 

[Brickwall]

This is exactly what tactical nuclear weapons are meant for.. To counter or deter cold start doctrine... Because the main premise of cold start is tht india to punish pakistan and capture territory or achieve its objective of hot pursuit or whatever in a short time while not crossing nuclear threshold... Short, swift punishment to Pakistan, as what Indians would like to have it..... But Pakistans policy of tactical nuclear weapons and indian policy in response to reply by full scale nuclear weapons ensures tht the conflict would no longer remain short, or limited, as indians would have liked it to remain.. Rather it will expand into full scale war..which opposes the very purpose of cold start doctrine..because cold start doctrine was intended / meant to be a doctrine tht would not escalate to full scale nuclear war rather it will be a limited war within nuclear threshold... So u see the point now? Nasr has made cold start doctrine useless..by acting as a deterrent to cold start... This is exactly what Nasr was meant for.. Dont come in the hope of short /limited war under the pretext of some cold start doctrine... Come only, if u are prepared for mutually assured destruction of both countries.. So indians will think 100 times before even doing something rather than be in some fictitious hope of punishing Pakistan in a short / limited war

Lets for moment assume, we did cold start

The use of tactical weapon comes into play on condition that Pakistan armed forces has break down and not willing to fight anymore and country sovereignty is threatened.In this case why would army would use tactical nuclear , don't u think it would be prudent to use strategic weapon and get done with enemy.You already know that other country has stated policy if attacked anywhere and anyhow with nuclear,chemical or biological weapons, its response will be large and final.

I feel its more of baggage then useful, u have to double the security of weapons at battlefield level , need to spread expertise around, will Pakistan ready to do all these when their defense budget is actually shrinking

 

[FullMetalJacket]

There is no way India can destroy Pakistan without being wiped away from the slate of the world. If india gets destroyed means the only hindu state from the face of the earth would be gone but if Pakistan gets destroyed (which is not possible inshaAllah), there are 1.5 billions Muslims and 54 Muslim countries. We are idol breakers and successors of Mehmood Ghaznavi. His holy mission will continue.

Come then, slave of the Arabs. Your masters tried to wipe hinduism for centuries, but we're still here. An army of converts, byproducts of imperial arabs, is certainly no match for us. So please, make with the nuclear threats some more, yet even your superiors fear nuclear war, it's only the naive converts on PDF that believe India's nuclear weapons to be duds, I'm sure your planners have taken into account our nukes.Should even the slightest nuclear radiation reach our lands, then we'll be taking you goat-humpers along with us.

 

[Brickwall]

If going by this logic..why does Pakistan is wasting billion of dollars on weapons.just develop Nukes, and if India does anything just use it.

If may can i put another argument , can the nukes be just be one form of morale booster for Pakistan army in face of conventional disparity and nothing else.

I hope sane voices prevail on Pakistan side, then leaving the control of nukes to general in middle of battlefield.

 

[silent hawk]

Has completely short circuited there cold start doctrine

 

[Farah Sohail]

Lets for moment assume, we did cold start

The use of tactical weapon comes into play on condition that Pakistan armed forces has break down and not willing to fight anymore and country sovereignty is threatened.In this case why would army would use tactical nuclear , don't u think it would be prudent to use strategic weapon and get done with enemy.You already know that other country has stated policy if attacked anywhere and anyhow with nuclear,chemical or biological weapons, its response will be large and final.

I feel its more of baggage then useful, u have to double the security of weapons at battlefield level , need to spread expertise around, will Pakistan ready to do all these when their defense budget is actually shrinking

Look... Nasr can be a double edged sword for India.. Pak can always say and will say..to the world...tht we used it on our own territory, against invading indian troops...so we had all the moral justification... We did not destruct india, rather only its against invading forces in Pakistan... There will be much pressure on india globally, not to escalate and not retaliate with full force... Rather india will be heavilypressurised diplomatically, to retaliate only in a proportionate manner..India will have tough choice to make... If india retaliates with full force, as is the stated policy, then india will be seen as tha agressor, which invaded Pakistan and then escalated the nuclear conflict..... Anyways...Escalating the conflict means mutually assured destruction, which is against the premise of cold start.. So nasr fulfils its purpose, of acting as a deterrent to cold start

 

[Blitzer]

There is no way India can destroy Pakistan without being wiped away from the slate of the world. If india gets destroyed means the only hindu state from the face of the earth would be gone but if Pakistan gets destroyed (which is not possible inshaAllah), there are 1.5 billions Muslims and 54 Muslim countries. We are idol breakers and successors of Mehmood Ghaznavi. His holy mission will continue.

In your dreams nigga....First of all you don't have nuclear missiles which have the range to cover entire india. Second thing......You just showed everyone how vile and disgusting piece of inbred shit you are. Personally I feel every religion is great....But its savages like you who make me hate them. Forget about hinduism.......You cannot even imagine what will happen if you start a war. We will nuke your cesspit of humanity 100 times.

Defence PK I think its your job to monitor and ban such disgusting morons.

Come then, slave of the Arabs. Your masters tried to wipe hinduism for centuries, but we're still here. An army of converts, byproducts of imperial arabs, is certainly no match for us. So please, make with the nuclear threats some more, yet even your superiors fear nuclear war, it's only the naive converts on PDF that believe India's nuclear weapons to be duds, I'm sure your planners have taken into account our nukes.Should even the slightest nuclear radiation reach our lands, then we'll be taking you goat-humpers along with us.

Lol you owned them.

 

[Last Samuri]

Pakistan is reminding the world daily that they have nukes and will use them .

It makes no diffrence if they are 2kt or 20kt .... YOU USE a nuke you give the other side (india) the right to nuke you back as they see fit...

its a very dangerous and suicidal concept by pakistan

No sane country not usa russia or israel or indeed china has this concept.

nukes are a LAST RESORT weapon.

YOU PEOPLE are making a FIRST RESORT option.....

it shows a real fear of indian supremacy and hegomoney in this region.

 

[Shariq786]

Well i won't qoute anyone one but i would like to add my comments too on this topic

As we all can see Hostility of INDIA towards PAK or the other way around is the same thing what i see is some like this:

1 - Both the countries know that an another War will be last one or should be the last one to end this shitty hostility against each other or if there should be now war in order to both to survive meaning a doctrine for Stalemates from both sides... so to avoid that war Both took up some measures assuring no wars ahead and even if there is no one survives

2 - As a stalemate INDIA puts forwards its numerical superiority which is 8:1 or minimum 4:1 whether airforce army of navy by making COLD START doctrine in which it mobilizes its all its Army towards PAK (Attentions INDIA total army is near 1.3 milllion so by ALL i mean atleast 0.8 million soldier rest will stay where they should be) and cut it in half meaning 8 Lakh soldier out of which 3 Lakh marching torwards pujab and rest 5 Lakh to keep the Pak army busy on the rest of the border from Kashmir to Karachi which in a sense is a really good doctrine using the numbers in a smart way i must say

3 - So in a same Way as PAK and INDIA are too close to stop as a march PAK had only 2 choices either rely on conventional forces by having a huge Technological advantage over the enemy in every field like Israel does with the ME or use of tactical nuke to nuetralize such a march by the INDIAN forces But as no technological advantage was given to PAK so for the sake of PAK's protection it opted for tactical nuke option which is a STALEMATE as well because no country wants t loose its 3 lakh marching troops in an blink of an eye niether a country would be stupid enough to wipe each other out just because they hate each other...

SO NOW THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT THERE WILL BE NO WAR BETWEEN US EXECPT US .. BUT AS THERE IS NO FUN OR NO NATIONAL INTRUST BY HAVING A PEACE IN THE REGION OF SOUTH ASIA.. WORLD POWERS NEED US TO STAY THE WAY WE ARE AS THEY SAW OUR POTENTIAL AT MANY DIFFERENT STAGES SO THEY KEEP POSTING SUCH SHIT BY NAMING THEM AS FACTS SOMETIME BY TELLING INDIA WILL WIN SOME TIME TELLING PAK WILL SO WE KEEP ON CHEST THUMPIMG AND KEEP BLACKMAILING EACH OTHER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER

AS For the answer @takeitwithyou No country is unprepared and secondly niether does any country have a live nuclear missile ready to be fired to a specific direction if PAK missile aren't assembled so does INDIA's if you have no knowledge about it (which in any case is not anything to be shamed about we should always keep learning) please do research and as for SATELLITES yes we have them too the only end would be like a nuke fired with in PAK's territory to defend its borders and IF INDIA retalliates and thats a IF INDIA retalliates with nukes (which means fire nuke missile towards PAK) the button would be pressed from this side too which means according to press 120 nukes comming towards INDIA and 50 nukes comming towards PAK and we all know the end after this

 

[Blitzer]

Well i won't qoute anyone one but i would like to add my comments too on this topic

As we all can see Hostility of INDIA towards PAK or the other way around is the same thing what i see is some like this:

1 - Both the countries know that an another War will be last one or should be the last one to end this shitty hostility against each other so to avoid that war Both took up some measures assuring no wars ahead and even if there is no one survives

2 - As a stalemate INDIA puts forwards its numerical superiority which is 8:1 or minimum 4:1 whether airforce army of navy by making COLD START doctrine in which it mobilizes its Army (rest 35% on other borders) towards PAK and cut it in half meaning 8 Lakh soldier out of which 3 Lakh marching torwards pujab and rest 5 Lakh to keep the Pak army busy on the rest of the border from Kashmir to Karachi which in a sense is a really good doctrine using the numbers in a smart way i must say

3 - So in a same Way as PAK INDIA are too close to stop as a march PAK had only 2 choices either rely on conventional forces by having a Technological advantage over the enemy in every field like Israel does with the ME or use of tactical nuke to nuetralize such a march by the INDIAN forces But as no technological advantage was given to PAK so for the sake of PAK's protection we opted for tactical nuke option which is a STALEMATE as well because no country wants t loose its 3 lakh marching troops in an blink of an eye niether a country would be stupid enough to wipe each other out just because they hate each other...

AS For the answer @takeitwithyou No country is unprepared and secondly niether does any country have a live nuclear missile ready to be fired to a specific direction if PAK missile aren't assembled so does INDIA's if you have no knowledge about it (which in any case is not anything to be shamed about we should always keep learning) please do research and as for SATELLITES yes we have them too the only end would be like a nuke fired with in PAK's territory to defend its borders and IF INDIA retalliates and thats a IF INDIA retalliates with nukes (which means fire nuke missile towards PAK) the button would be pressed from this side too which means according to press 120 nukes comming towards INDIA and 50 nukes comming towards PAK and we all know the end after this

You missed a point......50 nukes of India are enough to decimate whole Pakistan but 120 of pak's are not because you don't have the missiles to cover entire India.

But let me clear 1 thing....you use even the smallest nukes on India, that will give the right to India to retaliate with full fledged nukes enough to end the existence of Pakistan. No first policy of India is saving lives.

Neither country is foolish enough to start a nuclear war.... If it happens.....god knows what will happen to the existence of India and Pakistan. Lets hope for the best.

 

[Shariq786]

You missed a point......50 nukes of India are enough to decimate whole Pakistan but 120 of pak's are not because you don't have the missiles to cover entire India.

But let me clear 1 thing....you use even the smallest nukes on India, that will give the right to India to retaliate with full fledged nukes enough to end the existence of Pakistan. No first policy of India is saving lives.

Neither country is foolish enough to start a nuclear war.... If it happens.....god knows what will happen to the existence of India and Pakistan. Lets hope for the best.

you didn't got my point right ???

1 - PAK will use tatical nuke on its own soil only if INDIA invades PAK OK ??

2 - 120 nukes not enough for INDIA boy 120 are enough to keep whole INDIA UNDER NUCLEAR waste for many many decades to come

3 - Your right no foolish country will start a nuclear war BUT untill that country's existences is not in danger ... hope you get what i said

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Will be interesting to see will india even use this simple straight policy or not

My Opinion don't think so

Use the Nukes. And Indians will enjoy the whole world Nuking Pakistan. From USA to Russia, and I bet even Israel would be glad to join the party.
And that would be the end of Pakistani nation.