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PIA to reintroduce VIP culture | Business Recorder

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has decided to reintroduce VIP culture in Airbus aircraft at the cost of inconvenience of economy class passengers. For several years now, all PIA aircraft, Airbus and Boeings which used to have club class were converted into all economy class seats much to the appreciation of travelling public.

The idea was to bring to an end VIP culture by abolishing class distinction and promoting sense of equality among the rich and the poor. The change probably did not find favour with ministers and VIPs and PIA unable to sustain their anger is reverting back to the old system.

Though reverting back to the old system will not bring any financial gains to the beleaguered PIA as most of the club class seats are usually booked by "free travellers" or are upgraded to accommodate influential people. Undoubtedly, the change would cause inconvenience to the economy class passengers as the numbers of seats will be reduced from 193 to 183 which means that there will be less leg space and revenue passengers would find themselves badly squeezed. Appeasing a few ministers and VIPs at the cost of vast majority of people who travel economy class is a bad decision indeed.

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enough is enough the space currently itself was too short and i had my face on my knees !!!!!
it was a horrible experience.....I hope they dont go ahead with this idea or at least give sufficient leg room :(
 
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PIA to reintroduce VIP culture | Business Recorder

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has decided to reintroduce VIP culture in Airbus aircraft at the cost of inconvenience of economy class passengers. For several years now, all PIA aircraft, Airbus and Boeings which used to have club class were converted into all economy class seats much to the appreciation of travelling public.

The idea was to bring to an end VIP culture by abolishing class distinction and promoting sense of equality among the rich and the poor. The change probably did not find favour with ministers and VIPs and PIA unable to sustain their anger is reverting back to the old system.

Though reverting back to the old system will not bring any financial gains to the beleaguered PIA as most of the club class seats are usually booked by "free travellers" or are upgraded to accommodate influential people. Undoubtedly, the change would cause inconvenience to the economy class passengers as the numbers of seats will be reduced from 193 to 183 which means that there will be less leg space and revenue passengers would find themselves badly squeezed. Appeasing a few ministers and VIPs at the cost of vast majority of people who travel economy class is a bad decision indeed.

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enough is enough the space currently itself was too short and i had my face on my knees !!!!!
it was a horrible experience.....I hope they dont go ahead with this idea or at least give sufficient leg room :(
They should because it is the premium class which brings them the profit. Yes I certainly disagree to gratis upgrading for untouchables. Those who pay should be given the benefit. One should bear in mind that premium class is more than twice economy. As regard spacing of seats in economy is concerned; again a yes, it should be adjusted to meet international requirement of 24".
 
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They should because it is the premium class which brings them the profit. Yes I certainly disagree to gratis upgrading for untouchables. Those who pay should be given the benefit. One should bear in mind that premium class is more than twice economy. As regard spacing of seats in economy is concerned; again a yes, it should be adjusted to meet international requirement of 24".

dude minimum pitch is 28", it should be at least 30"

24 is like 4x the length of my mobile phone !!!!
 
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This is our great Shaheen Airlines....:hitwall:

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PIA has acquired this A320 from GE Capital Aviation Services (GECAS) on dry lease for six years.

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Incident: PIA B772 at Karachi on Jul 11th 2014, engine shut down in flight

By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Jul 12th 2014 20:26Z, last updated Saturday, Jul 12th 2014 20:26Z

A PIA Pakistan International Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration AP-BGL performing flight PK-787 from Karachi (Pakistan) to London Heathrow,EN (UK), was climbing out of Karachi's runway 25L when the crew stopped the climb at FL250 reporting the left hand engine (GE90) needed to be shut down due to engine oil depletion. The aircraft returned to Karachi for a safe landing on runway 25L about 90 minutes after departure.

A replacement Boeing 777-300 registration AP-BHV reached London with a delay of 3.5 hours.




:hitwall: They can't even do a proper leak check!!
 
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Pretty sad to see the low quality planes being leased with no in flight entertainment on them
 
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November 16, 2014

Cancelled Peshawar flights rankle expats
State-run carrier is the only airline repatriating bodies to Pakistan at no charge

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has stopped its service between Dubai and Peshawar, upsetting many Pakistani expats.

They said fares on rival airlines have risen.

In addition, state-owned PIA is the only airline that does not charge for repatriating bodies to Pakistan from the UAE.

The suspension means Pakistanis repatriating bodies to the Pakistani city of Peshawar now must pay thousands of dirhams on other airlines.

A senior PIA manager said the service was closed seven to 10 days ago following sustained losses on the sector.

Syed Ishaq Hussain — regional manager for UAE, CIS, Turkey and Africa — said it is possible the service may restart after deliberations by the Pakistan government.

“A few other sectors are also running at a loss, I was told by a PIA official who is high up in management. Why close Dubai-Peshawar and not others?” said Qayyum Shah, a Dubai-based logistics manager and president of Pakhtun Welfare Organisation in UAE.

“Every day PIA was repatriating two or three bodies to Peshawar without charging for it. They didn’t even charge for the passenger accompanying the body. Everyone appreciated that very much.

“But how will poor people send their deceased loved ones home for a burial now? It’ll be added distress to them.”

It costs roughly Dh8,000 to repatriate a body to Pakistan, according to a number of Pakistanis familiar with the arrangements.

Last week several Pakistanis from the Pashtun community, who are the majority community in Peshawar, met Pakistan diplomats in Abu Dhabi to discuss the closure.

There are an estimated 700,000 Pashtuns in the UAE.

“I think some people’s businesses will be affected by this. Their routine schedules and meetings will have to change because different airlines have different schedules. Of course, they will now be paying more for the trip as well,” said Salman Wisal, a UAE-based Pakistani businessman.

According to travellers, average fares for a one-way trip to Peshawar on other airlines have jumped from roughly Dh700 to more than Dh1,100.

That is significantly higher than PIA’s recent fares before the suspension — which ranged between Dh490 and Dh990 approximately.

Hussain acknowledges the Pashtun community was concerned, adding deliberations have been set in motion to address grievances.

“We met with some people and discussed their concerns. We’ve also spoken to the [PIA] head office. The Pakistan government had asked for feedback from the PIA, which we have sent to them. I’m hopeful the government will have instructions soon,” Hussain said.

The sector was not economically viable as only two weekly flights were operating before the suspension, he added. PIA had to cut its weekly flights after “rehabilitation” works at Dubai International Airport.

Moreover, flights to Peshawar had to go to Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad as the engineering and technical facilities for routine work on airplanes were not based in Peshawar. Flights had to return to Peshawar and then pick up Dubai-bound passengers.

“All of these factors were impacting the cost, which was running higher than the revenue for the sector. But as a national carrier, we should be there for Pakistanis. We were there to assist when they lost someone and needed to repatriate the body. This was a big service.

“We’ve sent papers to the PIA headquarters. They’re in touch with the aviation and financial authorities… If there was a way to absorb costs to some extent, and support and guidance from the government, I think we could come back.”

However, Hussain said any resumption of service should be “full force – three or four flights a week. We used to have an 80 per cent passenger load. In my view, two flights do not work on this sector under the present conditions.

“Other airlines will move in if we are not there and then it’s hard to get back in… Still, this is not a complicated issue. I am hopeful there will soon be an answer from the Pakistan government.”

PIA stops Dubai - Peshawar - Dubai service
 
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PIA is a business, not a taxi service.

Politicians and citizens of Pakistan need to heed this.

Hopefully, other loss sustaining routes to the Mid-East, EU, Asia and North America (JFK) will be cut soon.
 
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PIA is a business, not a taxi service.

Politicians and citizens of Pakistan need to heed this.

Hopefully, other loss sustaining routes to the Mid-East, EU, Asia and North America (JFK) will be cut soon.
How is JFK a loss sustaining route? The plane is full every time i have been on it. How about cutting half of your employees?

Anyways, here is the picture of the new Islamabad airport.

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