Pakistan carries out airstrikes along AfPak border

[hussain0216]

It is easy to start something, do you know where it is going to end us up? Ask NATO and the Russians. If we don't learn from them we will be incredibly stupid. Our enemies are not the common Afghan but the Indian trained terrorists who are paid fistful of dollars to attack Pakistan. We need to have two throng approach, one is to link up pro Pakistan Taliban and two link up with Pro-Pakistan Kashmir liberation fighters so that we can nip this in the bud before it gets any worse.

Let's be fair, the common afghan is our enemy and always has been

We have them option of peace talks, we even released 100 of the lanats

The afghans are a donkey people, it's better we totally destroy them by shutting the border and letting them starve

We have our own problems and we can't wait for the afghans to start acting like humans

Guys, lets not take a jab at entire Pushtun/Afghan nation. Our fight is with terrorists and terrorist only and we would continue to help the common Afghans irrespective of their ethnic background. Do not go down to the level of people who rejoice deaths of civilians and take a delight in the misery of common people.

ALL afghans are our enemies, you are acting blind

They attack and abuse us 24 hours a day, forget the bleeding heart response

Let's start treating them like enemies for once


And I dont mean nuke them, at least kick the..out of the country
Don't allow any non citizen the right to work, live or own property in Pakistan
Don't allow afghan trade through Pakistani territory

The afghans have a choice, stop terrorism or face the consequences

 

[Oom]

IEA was onboard this cross border strike and only giving political statements to curb internal pressures.. The Badr ops objectives were sent to them way back and they didnt announce anything over it.
They have openly said they cant take out dual headed folks in their ranks who share venim against Pakistan as that will finish off any little writ they have in the khost region. Therefore their way forward was talks that failed..
Another thing IEA is saying these days to battle internal pressures is that they dont recognize this border..This is a blatant step back from their earlier commitments of recognizing the border.. They are a bit helpless right now as it seems to fend off the $$$ being thrown at specific Afghan warlords by Biden administration...

US isnt arming any Afghan opposition groups.. they worry that weakening the IEA will give space to IS.. Thomas west said so implicitly in Doha that countries should not arm Afghan opposition groups.. also Taliban have never recognized the international boundary and no such commitments were given by them in the Doha peace agreement..

 

[Vapnope]

One question i would like to ask fellow posters is why do IEA not act against TTP is it because of the ideleogical similarities between them only or the reason could be more grounded i.e your average talibani terrorist wouldnot like to see his brother in TTP being targeted.Thus to avoid further fragmentation and to not test the loyality of taliban foot soldier perhaps this is them just being practical on their part.Ofcourse this should not matter to us we should pummel TTP to dust regardless.

TTP factions forged relationship with some of the Afghan taliban (groups) during WOT and both sides helped each other for their objectives as they fought alongside.
There are two things to consider here,
1 - Afghan taliban have yet to establish control over Afghanistan hence there will be issues of capability and capacity
2 - They cannot turn their guns to their comrades who helped them during their war efforts hence they would try to balance a relationship with Pakistan and their comrades.

In my opinion, Pakistan should reach out to IEA to come up with an arrangement where PA can conduct covert operations against ttp and their supporters.

 

[hussain0216]

US isnt arming any Afghan opposition groups.. they worry that weakening the IEA will give space to IS.. Thomas west said so implicitly in Doha that countries should not arm Afghan opposition groups.. also Taliban have never recognized the international boundary and no such commitments were given by them in the Doha peace agreement..

If they don't recognise Pakistan sovereignty and borders then that is a open declaration of animosity against Pakistan



Then why are tolerating any trade or aid or anything with a avowed enemy

We have given afghans space for 70 years to act like Namak harams because we don't treat them like they deserve

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

One of the largest air assault operations in Pakistans history, to coordinate so many aircraft both manned unmanned in multiple zones in theatre, and to make sure everyone got out, including POW's should be a matter of pride for all Pakistanis.

According to my information most of the collateral damage was from the IEA forces firing blindly in panic, we were jamming their comms and playing bibi saman on their radios.

Coordinating dozens of aircraft from two services with hundreds of special forces coming and going and to not loose a single soldier and have only some minor injuries we should all be proud.

Yashama Hakkin Mujadele Gujun Kadardir - Your right to survive is up to the level of your capability to struggle (Oruch Reis)

 

[TheSolution]

They were conquered by the British, Soviets, Americans and as they allege, the Pakistanis through proxy. In fact, they're still salty about having KPK being conquered by the British and don't recognize the durrand line after 100 years.

Didn't they literally sell KPK?

 

[nomi007]

Afghan are using TTP as a blackmailing tool. On the Other hand, 4+ million Afghan refugee are the biggest source of income for Afghanistan.
We have to support northern allies against Taliban, which will divert their focus from Pakistan.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

TTP factions forged relationship with some of the Afghan taliban (groups) during WOT and both sides helped each other for their objectives as they fought alongside.
There are two things to consider here,
1 - Afghan taliban have yet to establish control over Afghanistan hence there will be issues of capability and capacity
2 - They cannot turn their guns to their comrades who helped them during their war efforts hence they would try to balance a relationship with Pakistan and their comrades.

In my opinion, Pakistan should reach out to IEA to come up with an arrangement where PA can conduct covert operations against ttp and their supporters.

I am pretty sure the Taliban top guys in power know without the Pak support they're all dead...

Pak's job is to ensure no group should gain absolute superiority over all others....

 

[khansaheeb]

Let's be fair, the common afghan is our enemy and always has been

We have them option of peace talks, we even released 100 of the lanats

The afghans are a donkey people, it's better we totally destroy them by shutting the border and letting them starve

We have our own problems and we can't wait for the afghans to start acting like humans



ALL afghans are our enemies, you are acting blind

They attack and abuse us 24 hours a day, forget the bleeding heart response

Let's start treating them like enemies for once


And I dont mean nuke them, at least kick the..out of the country
Don't allow any non citizen the right to work, live or own property in Pakistan
Don't allow afghan trade through Pakistani territory

The afghans have a choice, stop terrorism or face the consequences

Speak for yourself, they are your enemies and not mine.

US isnt arming any Afghan opposition groups.. they worry that weakening the IEA will give space to IS.. Thomas west said so implicitly in Doha that countries should not arm Afghan opposition groups.. also Taliban have never recognized the international boundary and no such commitments were given by them in the Doha peace agreement..

OK so US didn't arm opposition groups , so how come they have all these weapons to attack Pakistan with? Unless India is supplying them.

 

[Oom]

Speak for yourself, they are your enemies and not mine.


OK so UK didn't arm opposition groups , so how come they have all these weapons to attack Pakistan with? Unless India is supplying them.

The US left a bunch of weapon depots in the delusion that ANA would continue fighting for several years once they left.. just like the Soviets.

 

[hussain0216]

Speak for yourself, they are your enemies and not mine.


OK so UK didn't arm opposition groups , so how come they have all these weapons to attack Pakistan with? Unless India is supplying them.

They attack Pakistan
They insult our people, faith, culture every minute of every day

They plot and pray for our destruction

And you think these beghairat afgans aren't our enemies???????


Sit back and enjoy the afghans being destroyed by they own ethnocentrism and stupidly

Just because they are not Hindus doesn't mean we should show them mercy

 

[khansaheeb]

They attack Pakistan
They insult our people, faith, culture every minute of every day

They plot and pray for our destruction

And you think these beghairat afgans aren't our enemies???????


Sit back and enjoy the afghans being destroyed by they own ethnocentrism and stupidly

Just because they are not Hindus doesn't mean we should show them mercy

India has done much more barbarity to us than Afghans, why don't you show them that much hatred?

 

[TheSolution]

India has done much more barbarity to us than Afghans, why don't you show them that much hatred?

Are you unable to fathom that you can have more than one enemy at any given time?

Following your logic nothing should be said about Israel, India has done more barbarity to us! Forget Israel

 

[khansaheeb]

Are you unable to fathom that you can have more than one enemy at any given time?

Following your logic nothing should be said about Israel, India has done more barbarity to us! Forget Israel

Stop spreading your anti-Afghan hate and stop trying to divide Pak-Afghan brothers. we have issues with a few Indian sponsored enemy not Afghans/Afghanistan.

 

[TheSolution]

Stop spreading your anti-Afghan hate and stop trying to divide Pak-Afghan brothers. we have issues with a few Indian sponsored enemy not Afghans/Afghanistan.

Living in denial is akin to mental slavery, the Durrand line conflict is an issue which has existed from the very beginning and India has very little part to play in it