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Pakistan blocks NATO supplies

reality check we lack as a nation if you have hope from kiyani gellani zardari i will say god bless you :rofl:

No this time round its people...Read this

Nato supply routes blocked on 5th day | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

Meanwhile, All Pakistan Oil Tankers Association (APOTA) have vowed expanding the blockade of international forces’ supply-lines unless the avenge of the killings of 24 Pakistan military troops who were brutally murdered in Nato’s cross-border airstrike on Pakistan’s outposts last weekend.
 
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No this time round its people...Read this

Nato supply routes blocked on 5th day | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

Meanwhile, All Pakistan Oil Tankers Association (APOTA) have vowed expanding the blockade of international forces’ supply-lines unless the avenge of the killings of 24 Pakistan military troops who were brutally murdered in Nato’s cross-border airstrike on Pakistan’s outposts last weekend.

any news abut deploy missiles jets tanks AA guns ? and written orders for shot down drones and every object fly over border? nope sorry no way . then told them go make fools to those party workers and fool citizens not me :tdown:
 
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I think the approval rating for the US has probably gone from 12% to 0.12% in Pakistan as a result of this incident.

The 0.12 % are the top brass in Army and Politicians ... till they run the show , USA will have enough ratings to carry on like this
 
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The 0.12 % are the top brass in Army and Politicians ... till they run the show , USA will have enough ratings to carry on like this

Then they wont be up there soon...This time its very different..Believe it or not.
 
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I read that the supply route is re-opening. True or false?
 
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NATO refused to apologize and will continue to play around for long time..Their ego is more important than world peace...and that will be good,as they wont apologize and supply roots wont open.
 
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I read that the supply route is re-opening. True or false?

False. It is not opening anytime soon.

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Moscow threatens supply line for U.S. troops

Russia may cut off only option after Khyber Pass closed


WASHINGTON – After Pakistan shut down the vital Khyber Pass supply route to Afghanistan following the Nov. 26 cross-border attack that killed some 28 Pakistani troops at Mohmand, the United States thought it would use the Northern Distribution Network, the only viable alternative route, through Russia, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

As it is, the U.S. sends about half of the supplies now through the NDN but at considerably greater cost.

With the Pakistani cutoff of a major supply route, the intent was for the NDN to carry as much as 75 percent of the supplies.

However, Russia now has threatened to cut off the route because of its strong opposition to a proposed ballistic missile defense system in Europe.

The Russians vehemently oppose the defense system and in response have decided to look at ways to bolster their own strategic missiles. They also are planning new deployments of advanced missiles in southern and western Russia, near Europe. This will include developing so-called cyber weapons that would attack missile defense computer networks and guidance systems.

Moscow always has been troubled by continued U.S. presence in the Central Asian region as the U.S. seeks permanent bases in Afghanistan following the announced 2014 pullout of U.S. troops.

If the Russians follow through with their threat to cut off the NDN supply route, all supplies to U.S. and coalition troops in Afghanistan would be cut off, affecting the entire U.S. and NATO mission.

There are an estimated 400 U.S. and allied bases in Afghanistan that rely on the supplies.

The cutoff of supplies also could have a profound impact on the ability of the government of Afghan President Hamid Karzai to survive.


Moscow threatens supply line for U.S. troops
 
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Russia Threatens to Kill NATO War in Afghanistan



Following the Pakistani government’s recent decision to shut down NATO supply lines into Afghanistan indefinitely, Russian officials upped the ante by subtly threatening to close off northern routes for the occupation if the U.S.-led military alliance refuses to back down on a proposed missile defense system in Europe. According to analysts, such a move by Russia at this point would either spark a new war or force a rapid withdrawal of supply-starved Western forces from the region.

Russian Ambassador to NATO Dmitri Rogozin was widely quoted last week as saying that if the military alliance refuses to offer a serious response to the Kremlin’s demands, "we have to address matters in relations in other areas." And the Russian government’s cooperation in the NATO occupation of Afghanistan could be one of those areas, he warned.

Supply routes through Pakistan for the Afghan war effort — which delivered about half of the alliance’s supplies — were completely sealed off late last month. The border closures came after NATO forces killed more than two dozen Pakistani military officers and soldiers in an attack inside Pakistan’s borders.

Western officials apologized for the killings. But it was not enough. Outraged Pakistanis poured into the streets as the regime ordered border crossings and U.S. airbases closed. NATO chiefs were left scrambling to route all of the necessary supplies through the "Northern Distribution Network" via Russia and former Soviet states bordering Afghanistan to the north.


The new geopolitical situation — NATO’s absolute reliance on Russian cooperation to keep the landlocked Afghan war going — has given the Kremlin a powerful bargaining tool. And while the Russian regime has supported the NATO occupation so far, that could change.

The U.S. government recently worked out agreements with its counterparts in Romania and Turkey to set up new missile defense systems — supposedly to protect Europe from a hypothetical attack by Iran. But the Russian regime is not happy about it, arguing that it would alter the nuclear balance of geopolitical power, and has become increasingly vocal in recent weeks.

Another contentious issue straining relations between Washington and Moscow is the Russian government’s controversial alliance with the regime of Syrian “President” Bashar Al-Assad. NATO governments have become increasingly aggressive, applying new waves of sanctions on Syria and even issuing veiled hints of a possible regime-change operation in the works.

Meanwhile, Russian authorities have steadfastly refused to cooperate with the Western belligerence toward Assad. The communist dictatorship ruling mainland China and the Russian government both recently vetoed a resolution in the United Nations Security Council condemning the Syrian regime. And Russia is expected to continue frustrating NATO efforts at the international level — especially after what happened in Libya.

But with Russia’s newfound leverage, the U.S. government and the military alliance are in a tough spot, analysts said. “Simply raising the possibility of cutting supply lines forces NATO and the United States to recalculate their position in Afghanistan,” noted George Friedman, founder of the Austin, Texas-based intelligence firm Stratfor. “No matter how small the probability, it places more than 100,000 U.S. and allied troops in a vulnerable position.”

Most observers agreed that Russia was probably unlikely to follow through with the threat, at least not as a first response. Blocking NATO’s supplies would, of course, create enormous problems for the Western occupation of Afghanistan. But it would also create more than a few headaches for the Russian government.

Still, it is not outside the realm of possibility.

"If the U.S. is not responsive, then a cutoff could be a reality at some point," said Ivan Safranchuk, deputy head of the Institute of Contemporary International Studies in Moscow. "Russia would like the U.S. to be more serious about Russian concerns."

Other Russian analysts defended the nation’s right to use such a threat as a bargaining tool to pressure the U.S. government. “There are processes which are critically important for Russia — which are about Russia’s national security,” explained Yury Krupnov of the Institute for Demography, Migration and Regulation Development.

Citing Washington’s proposed missile program in Europe and the expansion of NATO along Russia’s borders “without taking into consideration Russia’s concerns,” Krupnov told Russian TV network RT that the policies give Moscow the right “to use any leverage it has to be heard by its partner.”


If the supply routes were eventually cut off, analysts universally acknowledge that the consequences would be devastating for NATO and U.S. forces. The Western-backed regime of Afghan leader Hamid Karzai would almost certainly collapse quickly, too.

Strategy Professor Michael Vlahos at the U.S. Naval War College explained that Russia has even more leverage than Pakistan right now. “The U.S. has a very tenuous kind of placement in Afghanistan and it is highly vulnerable to the Pakistanis,” he told RT. “But it is more vulnerable to Russia. If Russia were to withdraw its permission for the U.S. to use its rail lines we would be in a very difficult position in Afghanistan.”

Pakistani analysts, meanwhile, were even more blunt about the potential catastrophic scenario. Experts cited by Pakistan's The News International said the Russian threat, if acted upon, would deliver the “deathblow” to the NATO occupation, creating a “cold deathtrap” for Western forces that would cause massive casualties.

“Americans and NATO troops have been strangled in Afghanistan,” said retired Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul, the former chief of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) agency. And if Russia follows through, which Gul believes is a very real possibility, the situation would become even more dire for Western powers.

“NATO troops will have to exit Vietnam-style,” Gul noted, calling for cooperation between the governments of Pakistan and Russia on the matter. “And that, too, by using Pakistan’s airspace, because Iran will never let U.S.A. use its airspace.”

Even if Russia is bluffing, however, massive damage has already been done. Analysts pointed out that the vulnerability of the Western alliance and its occupation has been unveiled for the world — and the Afghan fighters battling the coalition — to see.

“The United States and NATO have been exposed as waging a war that depended on the willingness of first Pakistan and now increasingly Russia to permit the movement of supplies through their respective territories,” wrote Stratfor’s Friedman. “Were they both to suspend that privilege, the United States would face the choice of going to war to seize supply lines — something well beyond U.S. conventional capacity at this time — or to concede the war.… Washington, of course, hopes the Pakistanis will reconsider and that the Russians are simply blowing off steam. Hope, however, is not a strategy.”

The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan tried to downplay concerns. "Whatever terms need to be negotiated they will be handled between diplomats and the states of the Northern Distribution Network,” a spokesman was quoted as saying in The Australian. “ISAF does not negotiate with the Russians on border crossing rights." All supplies through the NDN, however, currently pass through Russian territory before reaching the Afghan border.

Following the Russian statements, U.S. Ambassador to NATO Ivo Daalder proclaimed that President Obama planned to proceed with the missile defense system "whether Russia likes it or not." Russian leaders, meanwhile, have reportedly already ordered the military to develop plans for attacking and disabling the as-yet non-existent U.S. missile sites in Europe.


Some analysts expected an eventual triumph of diplomacy on the supply-lines and missile-shield issues. Others, however, warned that the escalating tensions might even be the beginning of an impending third world war.



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Transporters, drivers favour anti-Nato stand



PESHAWAR, Dec 5: As the suspension of supplies to Afghanistan-based Nato forces on Monday entered 10th day, transporters and drivers threw their weight behind the civilian and military leadership over the move triggered by the November 26 deadly bombing of Pakistani troops in Mohmand Agency. Dawn

President All Pakistan Goods Transport Owners Association, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Haji Ashraf Khalil told that transporters would continue to support the government and the army stand over the Nato bombing attack, which killed 24 security personnel.

“We have moved all of our tankers and trailers to Mohammad Kot near Mianwali before parking them at different filling stations. However, there are no or few steps for their safety,” he said.

Mr Khalil said trailer owners would claim at least Rs0.2 million each from contractors as compensation once the border was opened.

When asked about the US claim that it may go for routes other than Pakistan for supply goods to Nato forces in Afghanistan, Mr Khalil said being transporter, he knew that Torkham and Chaman were comparatively safe and easily accessible borders for goods transportation to Afghanistan and that amicable resolution of the bombing controversy was in the US` own interest.

Meanwhile, president Khyber Trailers` Driver and Workers Union Jehanzeb Khan told Dawn that the decision to suspend Nato supplies had been taken in a grand meeting in Karachi that was aimed at expressing complete support to the Pakistan army against Nato attack.

“At least 200 Pakistani tankers and trailers are stranded in parts of Afghanistan, while some drivers are in the custody of Afghan police for no fault of theirs,” he said, adding that trailer drivers and workers were in distress over the situation.Mr Jehanzeb said drivers had run short of money and needed immediate assistance, adding that their life was in danger. He said the union would convene a meeting shortly for future line of action.

When asked, another leader of Khyber Trailers` Driver and Workers Union Sikandar Khan said tanker/trailer owners suffered a daily loss of at least Rs5,000 each but were ready to face it for the sake of the country.


“Our drivers stand by the army against Nato aggression and suffer losses though their monthly salary ranges from Rs10,000 to Rs15,000 and they`ve no alternative source of livelihood. We`ll say goodbye to our jobs in protest against the US forces,” he said, adding that the union would stage demonstrations against the November 26 attack soon after Ashura.

Mr Sikandar said in Karachi, hundreds of drivers and cleaners had returned keys of their vehicles to owners and contractors in protest against the Nato bombing.


Transporters, drivers favour anti-Nato stand | Provinces | DAWN.COM
 
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NATO supply remains suspended for 10th day

The supplies for NATO and US troops in Afghanistan remained suspended at Pak-Afghan border for the 10th day on Monday as protests continued against the foreign aggression.

The supply line was suspended after the US-lead alliance’s troops raided a checkpost inside Pakistani jurisdictions, killing 24 soldiers.

Long queues of trucks and containers, loaded with fuel and consumable items on their way to Kabul and Qandhar, were seen at Pak-Afghan border crossings in Chaman and Tor-Kham, as forces did not allow them to enter into Afghanistan.

On the other hand, truck drivers and other labourers staying with vehicles are facing hardships at the border in chilly season and fear Taliban attacks.

Score of trucks, returning from Kabul, were also allowed to enter Pakistan at Spin Boldak, a border town right next to the Durand Line border with Pakistan.


NATO supply remains suspended for 10th day | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
 
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So the NATO has hung b/w Pakistan and Russia... good time for Russia to take her revenge for what US did to them in 80's... only thing Russia needs is to support Pakistan stance of blocking NATO supplies and make few offers and then herself also shut down the NATO routes ....
 
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In Pakistan there are these fortune tellers... People come to them to ask questions about decisions in their life. They bring out a green parrot (tota) which tells them what will happen by selecting options laid down on pieces of paper in front of the tota.

We Pakistanis generally love being right about our predictions. We enjoy the "I told you so" even if its "I told you so, we'd get screwed! I said it first!".
 
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