Pakistan blames India for exclusion from ‘SAARC Satellite’ project

[faithfulguy]

You Chinese need to learn from their Mars program. They've achieved more at their current GDP levels than you Chinese did when you were at those numbers. Be humble.

Why haven't you change your flag back to India? Don't be ashame of your own country.

 

[Fledgingwings]

Love or hate us but SAARC is dead meat for pakistan.

 

[American Pakistani]

You do understand what Pakistan uplinks/downlinks to/from the satellite is completely within its control?

Anyway every other SAARC country has signed up for the project, if you dont want in, no one cares. Seriously don't understand why Pakistan is even bringing up this subject....did some feelings get hurt?

Uplink/downlinks is one thing, what if India had installed some spying devices? Better safe than sorry.

Yes no one cares, care to tell this to indian news who were trying to present pakistan as a bad guy which did not wanted to participate. FO has now clear the nonsense india was trying to portray.

The satellite has transponders configured for DTH services why should we steal your TV shows

It was build and operated by india, who knows what secret spying devices are installed.

 

[NirmalKrish]

Love or hate us but SAARC is dead meat for pakistan.

That was well established when everyone withdrew from Pakistan hosting it!

 

[enquencher]

Thanks mate, that is my dog, pure breed long gsd

Actually i thought the outline of that dog resembles map of some country..and purposely shot in that angel.

 

[American Pakistani]

You do know every major power that has its space program, has military satellites, and this kind of weather and comm satellite won't suffice for "spying purposes."

Secondly, regarding your analogy. If Russia does build a satellite and 149 nations accept it, and only one nation does not. Then your argument fails. In this case, seven others accepted it. Btw, you have the right not to accept it.

Since I'm a voracious reader of what happens in your regions, I remember reading an article that spoke about "putting up hurdles" ALA Pakistan always objecting to multinational projects by not allowing consensus in SARC i.e. typically all of the remaining countries in SARC agree to projects, and Pakistan is always the sole one to object; thereby killing it since everything is consensus driven in SARC- just like the U.N security council

The other 7 countries accepted because they are tiny nations already dependent on india.

It is because your home country i.e. India is not sincere. On one hand they are committed to genocide of innocent Kashmiris in IOK and on other hand they talk about trade. For them trade money is more important than lives of Kashmiris.

 

[StraightShooter]

Actually i thought the outline of that dog resembles map of some country..and purposely shot in that angel.

But in that map the head was missing. So no similarities.

 

[American Pakistani]

Even now they can put devices which can spy on Pakistan.

Seriously you tell me what kind of help can Pakistan give in building and launching of satellite. We can all agree that India's space program is miles ahead of Pakistan's

I'm pretty sure Pakistan have some sort of defensive measures already in place.

Of course it is.

 

[boxer_B]

It's like saying Russia build, launch and operate satellite solely and call it "gift" for UN security council nations. Will US and other security council nations accept it?

How absurd does this sound...why would Pakistan let india build and operate a satellite?, who knows what devices are installed in it that could be gathering Intel on Pakistan.

Going by same yardstick, even undersea cables are not secure which is managed by consortium of companies. Fiber-Optic Link Around the Globe (FLAG) is one such 28000 KM optical fiber link owned by Reliance India.

Even if i ignore the fact that Ku band is used for broadcasting and Pakistan needs point to point communication within Pakistan or from Pakistan to any other SAARC nation securely, even then with replication and bugs built into satellite, it can be done through IPsec.

IPSecurity, or IPsec, is a set of rules for securing data communications across a public, untrusted network such as the Internet. It provides

> Data confidentiality by encrypting portions of a packet
> Data integrity by ensuring the packet has not been altered in transit
> Data source authentication to ensure the data originated with a trusted source
> Antireplay protection to ensure that packets are not copied and sent


For encryption it can use Data Encryption Standard (DES), Triple Data Encryption Standard
(3DES), and Advanced Encryption Standard (AES).

For authentication it can use Hash-based Message Authentication Codes (HMAC).

If you use 128 bit encryption AES , that's too much to break. Realistically, the loophole would be someone giving key to India through HUMINT, not through deciphering by brute force.

Thanks mate, that is my dog, pure breed long coat GSD...

Actually i thought the outline of that dog resembles map of some country..and purposely shot in that angel.

LOL

 

[boxer_B]

India need to send a man to space before worrying about building a space station for its neighbors. Otherwise, it would require US or Russia to send Indians to the Indian space station.

Duh...India will send a man before building a space station. What is space station for then?

To store fuel for longevity of satellite life.

 

[American Pakistani]

When you point a finger at someone, you have 4 fingers pointing back at you! What did you commit in east Pakistan? Genocide or selective breeding? Have some ground to stand on before waffling on about stuff that makes no logical sense.

What did Pakistan do? 7 lakh indian occupier terrorists are committing genocide can't be compared. Pakistan had only 42k troops stretched in entire Bengal with main objective of stopping indian invaders and establishing policing. Indian trained mutkia terrorists were killed and some civilians died in cross fire but that happens in full blown war. Total 25k people died including mutkia terrorists.

Now please don't divert the topic else I'll report your post.

Going by same yardstick, even undersea cables are not secure which is managed by consortium of companies. Fiber-Optic Link Around the Globe (FLAG) is one such 28000 KM optical fiber link owned by Reliance India.

Even if i ignore the fact that Ku band is used for broadcasting and Pakistan needs point to point communication within Pakistan or from Pakistan to any other SAARC nation securely, even then with replication and bugs built into satellite, it can be done through IPsec.

IPSecurity, or IPsec, is a set of rules for securing data communications across a public, untrusted network such as the Internet. It provides

> Data confidentiality by encrypting portions of a packet
> Data integrity by ensuring the packet has not been altered in transit
> Data source authentication to ensure the data originated with a trusted source
> Antireplay protection to ensure that packets are not copied and sent


For encryption it can use Data Encryption Standard (DES), Triple Data Encryption Standard
(3DES), and Advanced Encryption Standard (AES).

For authentication it can use Hash-based Message Authentication Codes (HMAC).

If you use 128 bit encryption AES , that's too much to break. Realistically, the loophole would be someone giving key to India through HUMINT, not through deciphering by brute force.





LOL

Unless Pakistani authorities think it is not interfering in Intel gathering of Pakistan, it is all good.

 

[takeitwithyou]

The other 7 countries accepted because they are tiny nations already dependent on india.

It is because your home country i.e. India is not sincere. On one hand they are committed to genocide of innocent Kashmiris in IOK and on other hand they talk about trade. For them trade money is more important than lives of Kashmiris.

Size does not matter when apart from India, you are very close in economic terms and those terms are relatively small.

Next, I see you have now introduced a new "but they" point after your initial one was rubbished.

 

[American Pakistani]

Size does not matter when apart from India, you are very close in economic terms and those terms are relatively small.

Next, I see you have now introduced a new "but they" point after your initial one was rubbished.

Size does matter. Your country india is relatively very large compare to tiny neighbors who agreed for the satellite. This is not the case for Pakistan who itself is a regional power.

"Apnay mun miyan mitthu banna" fits perfectly here for you. What point did you rubbished? And since when did I "introduced" but they or whatever?

It was me who rubbished your claim that of 149 countries agreeing and other illogical crap.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Size does matter. Your country india is relatively very large compare to tiny neighbors who agreed for the satellite. This is not the case for Pakistan who itself is a regional power.

"Apnay mun miyan mitthu banna" fits perfectly here for you. What point did you rubbished? And since when did I "introduced" but they or whatever?

It was me who rubbished your claim that of 149 countries agreeing and other illogical crap.

Look I know it is a sensitive subject and I'm only asking. If you are a regional power as you claim, why then have 7 out 8 players in the region not gone with you? Why do you own one set of reputations vs those tiny countries under the S Asia banner? What area of influence does your power project in terms of economic, diplomatic or military influence in the region?

BTW since you insist on bringing Kashmir into every argument even when it has no bearing on the discussion. What do you think of this article and position from your ally? https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/never-considered-pakistan-claim-on-kashmir-final-china.494190/

 

[assassin123]

Uplink/downlinks is one thing, what if India had installed some spying devices? Better safe than sorry.

Yes no one cares, care to tell this to indian news who were trying to present pakistan as a bad guy which did not wanted to participate. FO has now clear the nonsense india was trying to portray.



It was build and operated by india, who knows what secret spying devices are installed.

Uplink and downlink is managed by the ground stations of the respective countries how can we spy with that?What other spying system are you talking about.
Why do we need this sattelite to spy when
We have many dedicated satellites now in orbit,doing that purpose alone which have the capability to provide live feed on troop movements. all thanks to isro.