Pakistan baseball team allowed to play matches against Isarel

[Umair Nawaz]

I thought bird of a feather flock together!! If that is true i wont expect and people of knowledge understanding anything you said.
Anyway, it is a nice way to kill an argument by saying that i know more than you do
It is nice and good, right?

sorry typo error ''neither'' was what i wanted to write.
And the saying goes as ''two birds of a feather flock together''
What i was saying abt israel was from different POV....Do remember that country is one of those who was involved against us too in this LIC situation in which we were from last 16 years.
Talking purely From diplomatic n strategic angle.....Desperation is from Israeli side to somehow persuade us to recognize and legitimize their actions, not from our side. Neither is there anything significant we can gain by establishing relations with them, which is a country of mere 8 million. If yr thinking from weapons POV then do remember, its a mere American puppet. It doesnt have an independent foreign Policy.

Thats why i said, let those people comment and understand what i had written, those people who r knowledgeable enough on International Relations.

 

[In arduis fidelis]

Pakistan has a baseball team?

 

[Khanate]

Pakistan has a baseball team?

And its playing Israel.

Parallel universe is real.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I would like to see how they "slide" to steal a base , they can barely slide correctly in cricket while fielding

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Who won the match? Any news?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Desperation is from Israeli side to somehow persuade us to recognize and legitimize their actions, not from our side.

Gobsmacking lack of understanding.

8 million. If yr thinking from weapons POV then do remember, its a mere American puppet

You live in alternate universe. Is it possible to make a elephant bend by grabbing his tail? Yes it is for some. Sometimes the small fella is pulling the strings.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Gobsmacking lack of understanding.

You live in alternate universe. Is it possible to make a elephant bend by grabbing his tail? Yes it is for some. Sometimes the small fella is pulling the strings.

Lol bro, why are trying so hard to talk sense to your countrymen? Let them live in their delusions and ignorance. At this rate Pakistan will take a longggg time to develop/come out from its current state.
How can you explain that some of them are trying to act more Arab than the Real Arabs themselves???lol I have never understood this myself. Whether it's lack of self confidence I don't know. Lol Since I don't see what conflict of interests they have with Israel. It's like say China or S.Korea ranting about Israel meanwhile they have no business in Arab-Israeli issue. Makes no sense. Lol Religion can really be an opium to the masses when not properly handled as Karl Marx once said

 

[Mamluk]

Lol bro, why are trying so hard to talk sense to your countrymen? Let them live in their delusions and ignorance. At this rate Pakistan will take a longggg time to develop/come out from its current state.
How can you explain that some f them are trying to act more Arab than the real Arabs themselves??? I have never understood this muself. whether whether it's lack of self confidence I don't know. Lol Since I don't se what conflict of interests thy have with Israel. It's like say China or S.Korea ranting about Israel meanwhile they have no business in Arab-Israeli issue.makes no sense. Lol Religion can really be an opium to the masses when not properly handled as Karl Marx once said

Israel is purely an Arab/ME issue. It should not concern us and we shouldn't be taking sides.

It's not only religion as many tend to think - there's also Arab money at work that buy our politicians loyalty.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

why are trying so hard to talk sense to your countrymen?

Yeh, not making much headway though.

Religion can really be an opium to the masses when not properly handled as Karl Marx once said

Marx's theory in totality was flawed but that does not mean within it you can find diamond nuggets. This "opium" is a nugget and applies to Pakistan like law of physics. Made mush out 90% of the population.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Israel is purely an Arab/ME issue. It should not concern us and we shouldn't be taking sides.

It's not only religion as many tend to think - there's also Arab money at work that buy our politicians loyalty.

But the Arabs often cooperate with Israel when need be/serve their interests. Lol So don't see why they will stop you from doing the same. Lol Your 'best buddy' Turkey also cooperates extensively with Israel(even militarily). I don't think they will be upset if you did the same. Lol

It's like Iran deciding not to have any relations whatsoever with India simply because Hindu India is 'occupying' a fellow Muslim Ummah country's(Pakistan) land in Kashmir. LMAO.
Iran(like any other sensible country) will never do that, only dumb people/country will forego their national interests for some stupid ideological/religious reasons. Lol

 

[Khanate]

But the Arabs often cooperate with Israel when need be/serve their interests. Lol So don't see why they will stop you from doing the same. Lol Your 'best buddy' Turkey also cooperates extensively with Israel(even militarily). I don't think they will be upset if you did the same. Lol

It's like Iran deciding not to have any relations whatsoever with India simply because Hindu India is 'occupying' a fellow Muslim Ummah country's(Pakistan) land in Kashmir. LMAO.
Iran(like any other sensible country) will never do that, only dumb people/country will forego their national interests for some stupid ideological/religious reasons. Lol

Israel is what 8 million people? Its really not that important.

Besides what Pakistani national interest has been harmed by not recognizing Israel?

 

[Arsalan]

sorry typo error ''neither'' was what i wanted to write.
And the saying goes as ''two birds of a feather flock together''
What i was saying abt israel was from different POV....Do remember that country is one of those who was involved against us too in this LIC situation in which we were from last 16 years.
Talking purely From diplomatic n strategic angle.....Desperation is from Israeli side to somehow persuade us to recognize and legitimize their actions, not from our side. Neither is there anything significant we can gain by establishing relations with them, which is a country of mere 8 million. If yr thinking from weapons POV then do remember, its a mere American puppet. It doesnt have an independent foreign Policy.

Thats why i said, let those people comment and understand what i had written, those people who r knowledgeable enough on International Relations.

No problem with they typo, it happens all the time.

And the actual saying goes as “Birds of a feather flock together" . I missed that "s"

On topic, you really think that playing Baseball with Israel is a matter of international relations? As I said, it is best to keep sports and politics separate. Furthermore, this, what you are saying now, was never the point you started off with. It was about how Israel won’t be “secure” for our team and stuff. That is what I commented on. Perhaps you forgot what you were arguing about and are now looking for something new.

Even if I comment on what you have just changed to in this last post, please, we are not going to play baseball because we are looking to buy weapons from Israel. What kind of logic is that? And you thought knowledgeable people will be able to understand this “logic” ? Not everything happening have a sinister motive sir! Some things are just as simple as they look and there is no reason to find a conspiracy behind EVERYTHING.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Israel is what 8 million people? Its really not that important.

Besides what Pakistani national interest has been harmed by not recognizing Israel?

Exactly, they are a country of a mere 8million, which should be a matter of shame for most muslin countries in the region, since only 8million people is far more productive/Advanced the any other country in the region. lol
If Russia, China, India, Turkey can benefit from Israeli companies tech input, what makes you think a far more backward country(relative to these powers)like Pakistan can't cooperate/benefit from Israel ? Lol
You even know that Russia got its drone tech from Israel?
You know that many Indian defence/military systems are based on Israel?
You know that Chinese companies are investing massively in Israeli tech companie( they are soon to overtake even the U.S in this regard) more than any other country in the region simply because of the innovation/skilled workforce Israel can provide them?
I won't even mention Turkeys military cooperation with Israel.
Pakistan is nowhere near any of these countries I mentioned. So what makes you think your country has nothing to learn from them? Lol
On the contrary it's Pakistan who has Nothing at all to offer Israel to be honest.

Pakistan should keep living in its religious bubble. While the world moves ahead.


http://m.scmp.com/business/companie...tite-investing-israel/search?ei=87jfV-bNGIaOs

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.659301?v=9AE26C3A923A56F20E10935E9CBB314D

http://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2016/09/08/israel-and-china-growing-connection

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Turkey_relations

http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/revealed-india-close-to-signing-3-billion-defense-deal-with-israel/

http://www.janes.com/article/58495/india-to-approve-multiple-israeli-defence-buys

http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...on-deal-to-sell-spy-drones-to-russia-1.318972

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/a...itary-ties-between-israel-and-russia-24061368

 

[Khanate]

Exactly, they are a country of a mere 8million, which should be a matter of shame for most muslin countries in the region, since only 8million people is far more productive/Advanced the any other country in the region. lol
If Russia, China, India, Turkey can benefit from Israeli companies tech input, what makes you think a far more backward country(relative to these powers)like Pakistan can't cooperate/benefit from Israel ? Lol
You even know that Russia got its drone tech from Israel?
You know that many Indian defence/military systems are based on Israel?
You know that Chinese companies are investing massively in small Israeli tech companies more than any other country in the region simply because of the innovation/skilled workforce Israel cam provide them?
I won't even mention Turkeys military cooperation with Israel.
Pakistan is nowhere near any of these countries I mentioned. So what makes you think your country has nothing to learn from them? Lol

So many words and you didn't identify a single Pakistani national interest that has been 'harmed'. Congrats.

 

[mike2000 is back]

So many words and you didn't identify a single Pakistani national interest that has been 'harmed'. Congrats.

Of course they did harmed your national interests after you harmed them for no reason by getting involved in their wars with Arab monarchies(granted you had little choice since the monarchs bribe the leaders with some spare cash when needed). You don't remember it was due to Israeli help that India was able to hold its own against Pakistan during the kargil war, after U.S/U.K refused to provide any help to India? If anything, we Western powers foolishly acted belligerently(which I think was a mistake on our part) and refused to supply weapons and spare parts France, UK refused to supply spare parts for the French and British jets & other weaponry. USA had a weapons sale embargo and refused to alter it's stance throughout the war. This is where Israel stepped in .

http://www.caravanmagazine.in/vantage/planes-drones-missiles-kargil-indo-israeli-relations

http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-israel-helped-india-win-kargil-war.html?m=1

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national...-israels-aid-during-kargil/article6234801.ece


Surprised you don't know this. Seem you people underestimate the amount of influence/world reach(and how advanced) this small country of 8million has over the region and the world . Lol