Pakistan asks US to bring India on dialogue table

[Tom M]

First, Pakistanis believe that US has too much influence on India. In reality, US has limited influence on India. Moreover, even if US succeeds in getting India to the table...nothing will come out of it. Unless, India willingly comes to table, Pakistan cannot force a solution on India.

Consider me a 10 year old and please explain. Why should India give something to someone who failed to achieved that through multiple military misadventures ??

No one can force a solution on India in that case.

 

[GURU DUTT]

You begged for it to end Kargil!

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/day-nuclear-conflict-was-averted
https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...hs-adk-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Clint...ontrol-on-4th-June-1999-during-the-Kargil-War




you mean Atal Biharo vajapayee went to washington on 4th of July 1999

 

[Tom M]

You begged for it to end Kargil!

Your statement is self-contradictory. India never took dictation for anyone, rather it was Pakistan who withdrew after dictation from USA.

Moreover your current Prime Minister Mr. Nawaz Sharif who was the P.M back then had claimed on record that who had begged and who much causalities Pakistan had sustained.

I would rather prefer to believe the statements of a nation head rather than the opinion of some Tom, Dick, and Harry.

 

[Counterpunch]

Call it bad planning, sudden loss of interest of Americans and rest of the World or call it bad luck, the mess created during Soviet war was too much to clean for Pakistan alone. Rather than helping in cleaning the mess, Indians came out openly and saw this as an opportunity to destabilize Pakistan. If it wasn't for the efforts and sacrifices of our Armed forces, Pakistan would have turned into another Iraq, or Syria or Libya.

But we are standing strong. Willing to put on a fight if it is thrown our way, better than before. So I would suggest India focuses on the larger picture of becoming a strong economy rather than meddling with already battling Pakistan with the hope that it can disintegrate Pakistan once and for all. Because, one thing is for sure, we have kept our eyes and ears open despite getting body blows and earmarked our enemies during last decade and it would just be a matter of time before we start paying out our debts in the same currency and that is what India should not want to happen.

As for Pakistan asking US to bring India to discussion table - why not! I do not see any harm in it unless someone has ego issues, rather I find it mature for the Government since this shows its desire to put an end to recent hike in border tensions. However, the official word from Pakistan at the UN and for the World had been 'the desire for peace shall not be considered our weakness'

 

[ito]

Consider me a 10 year old and please explain. Why should India give something to someone who failed to achieved that through multiple military misadventures ??

No one can force a solution on India in that case.

In 1965 when Pakistan tried to expropriate Kashmir...the option for a dialogue to solve Kashmir is lost forever.

 

[risingsinga]

Both countries should resolve all their conflicts through dialogue and if necessary, any country acceptable to both sides should mediate.

 

[I S I]

I dont think India will act like Pakistan in this area

India is way ahead matured then Pakistani think-tank, our fight is with terror not with common people

perfect example of,

Bhagal main churi
Mun main raam raam.

 

[Fireurimagination]

India's response should be to US or Pakistan that stop the proxy war or let's talk about stopping the proxy war/terrorism or else take a hike

 

[RoadRunner401]

Brilliant move by Pakistan, Checkmate, neutralizing Indian claims of wanting peace plus internationalizing the issue.

 

[tarrar]

Just another BS by corrupt & incompetent politicians. There is no need to do anything, let India keep crying like a b!tch. There was absolutely no need to ask US to do anything.

 

[saurav jha]

first stop supporting terrorism then we can talk.

 

[vinay]

What next? They will ask Afghanistan to bring India to discussion table?
If Pakistan is really serious about talks then their support for terrorism has to end

 

[wiseone2]

ISLAMABAD - Pakistan has asked the United States to help bring India to the dialogue table amid Washington’s calls for talks between the nuclear-armed neighbours, official sources said.

Senior officials at the foreign ministry told The Nation that recent appeals by the US for talks between Pakistan and India were a result of Pakistan’s diplomatic efforts. The officials maintained Pakistan had been pressing Washington to stop India from war-mongering.

Last day, US State Department’s Deputy spokesman Mark Toner said that dialogue between Pakistan and India will help reduce tensions in the region.

He added: “We are working hard to push Pakistan to go after those terrorist groups that seek safe haven on their soil and territory.”

This was part of a series of calls by the US for calm as tension rose to threatening levels between Pakistan and India after the September attack in Uri that killed 19 Indian soldiers.

The tension had been brewing after the killing of freedom fighter Burhan Wani weeks earlier that resulted in unrest in the Held Kashmir. The Indian forces killed dozens of protesters to quell the agitation. Since the partition of British India in 1947 and creation of modern States of Pakistan and India, the two South Asian countries have been involved in four wars, including one undeclared war, and many border skirmishes and military stand-offs.

The Kashmir issue has been the main cause, whether direct or indirect, of all major conflicts between the two countries with the exception of the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 where conflict originated due to turmoil in erstwhile East Pakistan - now Bangladesh.

An official at the foreign ministry said Washington had pledged to support Pakistan’s efforts for talks although they seemed suspicious of Pakistan’s anti-terror role.

“Like us they believe talks is the best way out but they still keep on asking us to do more. We have been telling them all these weeks that we had nothing to do with Uri attack or any such incident,” he said.

He said despite its tilt towards India, US was supporting Pakistan’s efforts for regional peace which India was “bent upon disturbing.”

Another official said Washington had asked Pakistan to improve its anti-terror ‘image’ as the US tried to bring India to the dialogue table.

“Washington has told us the whole West and India doubt Pakistan’s credentials on anti-terrorism war. They are convinced regarding our efforts for talks but believe India may be right to doubt us,” he said.

The official said Pakistan had complained to the US that India was avoiding talks despite multiple offers from Pakistan. He said Pakistan did not want the region to be pushed to war.

This week, US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said that if elected, he will like to mediate between Pakistan and India because the region was a “very, very hot tinderbox.” But like the Obama administration, Trump also said that he would only mediate if both countries asked him to do so.

Reports said Pakistani textile sector had been hit badly by the rise in Indo-Pak tensions with most traders not buying cotton from India as a gesture of national solidarity, impacting the $ 822 million cotton industry. The traders across the border, being uncertain of future developments, were not entering into new deals.

Pakistan's Cotton Commissioner Khalid Abdullah said a low quantum of trade activity was still in place. The government has not asked importers to stop buying cotton from India but many of them are not buying on their own as a “gesture of national solidarity.”

Pakistani spinners are the biggest buyers of Indian fibre. Fewer imports by Pakistan this year could hurt Indian exports, raise their prices and help rival cotton exporters like Brazil, the US and some African countries.

Analyst Dr Pervez Iqbal Cheema said US could play its role for peace in the region but had been siding with India in the recent past. “If the US is serious, it can help solve this issue but they are always toeing India’s line over the Kashmir issue. Pakistani diplomats must gear up efforts to win back the US and other influential powers to force India back on the table and save the region from war,” he said.

Cheema said the diplomats had done well in the recent weeks to highlight the Kashmir issue and India’s propaganda.

http://nation.com.pk/national/20-Oct-2016/pakistan-asks-us-to-bring-india-on-dialogue-table

who is being Uncle Sam's poodle ??

First, Pakistanis believe that US has too much influence on India. In reality, US has limited influence on India. Moreover, even if US succeeds in getting India to the table...nothing will come out of it. Unless, India willingly comes to table, Pakistan cannot force a solution on India.

if USA cannot force Pakistan to change its position on core issues (read Kashmir, nukes, Taliban) how can America force India to change its position on core issues ? India is 10x stronger than Pakistan

 

[Preacher]

Call it bad planning, sudden loss of interest of Americans and rest of the World or call it bad luck, the mess created during Soviet war was too much to clean for Pakistan alone. Rather than helping in cleaning the mess, Indians came out openly and saw this as an opportunity to destabilize Pakistan. If it wasn't for the efforts and sacrifices of our Armed forces, Pakistan would have turned into another Iraq, or Syria or Libya.

But we are standing strong. Willing to put on a fight if it is thrown our way, better than before. So I would suggest India focuses on the larger picture of becoming a strong economy rather than meddling with already battling Pakistan with the hope that it can disintegrate Pakistan once and for all. Because, one thing is for sure, we have kept our eyes and ears open despite getting body blows and earmarked our enemies during last decade and it would just be a matter of time before we start paying out our debts in the same currency and that is what India should not want to happen.

As for Pakistan asking US to bring India to discussion table - why not! I do not see any harm in it unless someone has ego issues, rather I find it mature for the Government since this shows its desire to put an end to recent hike in border tensions. However, the official word from Pakistan at the UN and for the World had been 'the desire for peace shall not be considered our weakness'

Nicely put up! - no harm in showing some maturity.

 

[Skull and Bones]

You begged for it to end Kargil!

Did we sent Nawaz Sheriff to US to do the begging for us?