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Pakistan arrests ended UN talks with Taliban

LONDON: The arrest of key Taliban leaders in Pakistan put a halt to secret peace talks with the United Nations, the former UN special representative to Afghanistan said Friday in an interview.

Kai Eide, who stepped down from the post earlier this month, confirmed for the first time that he had held talks with senior Taliban figures but said these ended when Pakistan made a series of high-profile arrests.

"Of course I met the Taliban leaders during the time I was in Afghanistan," said the Norwegian diplomat, talking to the broadcaster at his home in Oslo.

"The first contact was probably last spring, then of course you moved into the election process where there was a lull in activity, and then communication picked up when the election process was over, and it continued to pick up until a certain moment a few weeks ago."

Face-to-face talks were held in Dubai and other locations, and he described the discussions as "in the early stages... talks about talks."

Such negotiations would have been impossible without the authorisation of the movement's leader, Mullah Omar, the diplomat believes.

The process had accelerated a few months ago, but Eide said it had come to a standstill after a top Taliban military commander and other figures from the militia were captured in Pakistan.

"The Pakistanis did not play the role they should have played. They must have known about this," he said.

"I don't believe these people were arrested by coincidence. They must have known who they were, what kind of role they were playing -- and you see the result today."

Pakistani officials have insisted the arrests were not aimed at wrecking the talks, media reported.

Taliban military commander Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar was captured last month in the southern Pakastani city of Karachi in Pakistan, in what US media said was a joint operation with American spies.

Other senior Taliban commanders have also reportedly been captured in Pakistan recently.

Senior US general David Petraeus last month hailed "important breakthroughs" and detentions in Pakistan, as he visited the country.

The developments were interpreted in the US as a sign of success in efforts to persuade Pakistani authorities to act against Afghan Taliban leaders on its territory.

Pakistan arrests ended UN talks with Taliban: ex-UN envoy
 
"The Pakistanis did not play the role they should have played. They must have known about this," he said.

"I don't believe these people were arrested by coincidence. They must have known who they were, what kind of role they were playing -- and you see the result today."

Pakistan 'must have known'? That would imply that no one actually bothered to officially keep Pakistan in the loop.

If these talks were that important, and the freedom of these Taliban leaders that important, then given the non-stop drumbeat of 'Quetta Shura, Quetta Shura! Arrest the Quetta Shura or we will bomb the Quetta Shura!' and increasing pressure on Pakistan from NATO and especially the US, why on earth would the UN representative not take the US and Pakistan into confidence over this issue and specifically request that no action be taken against these leaders?

The UN representative's criticizm of Pakistan is rather contradictory and unnecessary.
 
Heard the interview on the BBC - an interesting tidbit was that Eide claimed that the number of Taliban leaders arrested after Baradar's arrest was between 10 - 14.

That is a greater number of Taliban leaders arrested than previously thought, a significant setback to the Taliban.
 
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Americans tell us dont negotiate with taliban and themselves want peace talks with the taliban ...
 
Americans tell us dont negotiate with taliban and themselves want peace talks with the taliban ...

That is incorrect - the US appears to be currently not interested in talking with the Taliban leadership because they believe that the Taliban perceive themselves as having the upper hand and will therefore not be open to significant compromise.

What the US is interested in is low level Taliban 'reconciliation and reintegration' where possible, similar to the TTP low level commanders and their men that surrender in Pakistan.
 
That is incorrect - the US appears to be currently not interested in talking with the Taliban leadership because they believe that the Taliban perceive themselves as having the upper hand and will therefore not be open to significant compromise.

What the US is interested in is low level Taliban 'reconciliation and reintegration' where possible, similar to the TTP low level commanders and their men that surrender in Pakistan.

Either the US was not in sync with UN, or the US may have concluded that it was time to put more pressure on the Talibs to make them more accommodating.

Another possible explanation that the Afghan govt may have been trying to keep Pakistanis out of the loop, and Pakistanis reacted with the arrests to scuttle the talks.

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Its old of US... first start war and when (and always) see defeat thn go for TALK... ...
 
This Article is just rather making me Angry because on one side US and NATO wants Pakistan to Fight Taliban and capture their leaders.

And on the Other Hand the UNO Is "Heavily Criticizing" Pakistan for Capturing The Taliban Leaders because it in their Minds has Disturbed their "Top Secret" Negotiations with the Terrorists :angry::pakistan:.


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I think UNO should leave us to do what WE DECIDE to do and Stop Poking its Nose into our matters !

Regards:
 
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Pakistan arrests ended UN talks with Taliban: ex-UN envoy
Updated at: 0720 PST, Friday, March 19, 2010
LONDON: The arrest of key Taliban leaders in Pakistan put a halt to secret peace talks with the United Nations, the former UN special representative to Afghanistan said Friday in an interview.

Kai Eide, who stepped down from the post earlier this month, confirmed for the first time that he had held talks with senior Taliban figures but said these ended when Pakistan made a series of high-profile arrests.

"Of course I met the Taliban leaders during the time I was in Afghanistan," said the Norwegian diplomat, talking to the broadcaster at his home in Oslo.

"The first contact was probably last spring, then of course you moved into the election process where there was a lull in activity, and then communication picked up when the election process was over, and it continued to pick up until a certain moment a few weeks ago."

Face-to-face talks were held in Dubai and other locations, and he described the discussions as "in the early stages... talks about talks."

Such negotiations would have been impossible without the authorisation of the movement's leader, Mullah Omar, the diplomat believes.

The process had accelerated a few months ago, but Eide said it had come to a standstill after a top Taliban military commander and other figures from the militia were captured in Pakistan.

"The Pakistanis did not play the role they should have played. They must have known about this," he said.

"I don't believe these people were arrested by coincidence. They must have known who they were, what kind of role they were playing -- and you see the result today."


Pakistani officials have insisted the arrests were not aimed at wrecking the talks, media reported.

Taliban military commander Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar was captured last month in the southern Pakastani city of Karachi in Pakistan, in what US media said was a joint operation with American spies.

Other senior Taliban commanders have also reportedly been captured in Pakistan recently.

Senior US general David Petraeus last month hailed "important breakthroughs" and detentions in Pakistan, as he visited the country.

The developments were interpreted in the US as a sign of success in efforts to persuade Pakistani authorities to act against Afghan Taliban leaders on its territory.



Pakistan arrests ended UN talks with Taliban: ex-UN envoy - GEO.tv
 
we dont arrest them...we are bad
but if we arrest them again we are even more bad

Pakistan arrested brader on US intel blame US
but no
like the story of Father and son and their donkey in every case they will blame us

I feel pity for this Pakistan Phobic attitude of superiority complexed westerners.

they are telling us what to do when its us who have fought and won battles in war on terror and sacrificed thousands of our sons
 
Also the Baradar (Spl) guy was caught with CIA and ISI cooperation.

Even if we are doing this then tough luck.
 
I think pakistan should be praised here for their real efforts against taliban.

US is the action planner, GoI ONLY EXECUTES IT.

If talks ended, US is to be blamed and not PA.

Besides, US AND AFGAN GOV SHOULD CLEAR THEIR OPTIONS - Talks or Action.
 
I dont't get it, first they threaten Pakistan to 'do more', and when Pakistan is 'doing' more and giving these terrorists a hell of a time, they start criticizing us again...

U.S is playing a double game, they always do.
 

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